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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
What do people expect from the programme? To read some of the posts on here, it's a show with serious football analysis, but, for me, it's never been that - how can there ever be any real analysis of the matches being played or tactical discussion when the audience never gets to see anything of what's happening on the pitch apart from Football League goals in midweek games? Therefore, the whole argument about whether any replacements have the football knowledge and experience that the three sacked men did is a bit of a pointless one - did anyone ever learn anything about football tactics and fine points from anything Messrs Thompson, Nicholas and LeTissier said while the games were taking place?
They were seen as "personalities" as much as football analysts and, with Jeff Stelling staying, I think the same will apply to their replacements.
Absolutely. I was wording a similar response to the whole thread then I find you've done so far better than I ever could!
The show is generally so fast paced that it's impossible to give anything other than the bare bones of a situation. It's all about reporting on the games. It arguably doesn't require experts. Most of the reporters around the grounds are journalists. Only a small amount of reporters are ex-pros. They're the ones who get most of the attention and the biggest games, both on Sky and the BBC. Sky use more former players than the BBC but there's no evidence they are better off doing so.
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
It can be used to describe anyone guilty of a sex crime.
I might have known you’d stick up for him. “Low down sex attack” indeed. Blokes a raving danger.
low down as in lower than a snakes belly
Blokes clearly a **** , not defending him but he's clearly not a nonce is he , which is what you said he was
So you , on your birthday went up to this bloke and put him straight did you
That showed him
Not that u did it but it sounds good
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
you seem to know the personalities pretty well considering you never watch it (Unless in a mate's house)
(Wonders to self"Does sludge quite by chance pop into his mate's house every sat afternoon in the season? :hehe:)
you wonder wrong
It was sometimes on free view xx
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
Llandaff Blue
:hehe:
it was on free view you dull can't
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
llan bluebird
It's a light entertainment show rather than some deep overly analytical tactics show, that is left to Monday mornings quarterback type shows.
Stelling is the glue that holds the show together, the midweek shows with that other guy are boring and matter of fact. The big question is whether the chemistry is there with the newbies whatever gender, ethnicity or AGE.
The problem with former professional footballers is they were good at football but are crap fans or pundits. Most of us want that terrace humour you get at the game, none of which has anything to do with playing the game at the highest level.
Sometimes you have to break up an winning but ageing team. I hope they get younger,lively, chippy, types. I don't care what gender or colour they are as long as they add something rather than a tick boxes.
:thumbup:
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
it was on free view you dull can't
He protesteth too much me thinks.
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
low down as in lower than a snakes belly
Blokes clearly a **** , not defending him but he's clearly not a nonce is he , which is what you said he was
So you , on your birthday went up to this bloke and put him straight did you
That showed him
Not that u did it but it sounds good
You clearly are which spells danger in itself.
A Nonce is anyone convicted of a sex crime, so yes, yes he is.
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
How do you measure most deserving though?
Ryan Giggs, medals on table, there is no one greater in British football, but he has a very mundane personality.
Carragher couldn’t lace Giggs boots but he displays a real passion for the game which makes him a better pundit than Giggs would be.
Clearly Sky want to be more diverse moving forward and Ashley Cole and Sol Campbell had far better careers than say Clinton Morrison but Clinton is a better pundit.
Using Darts as an example you couldn’t get someone with more knowledge and experience than what they would be commentating on than Phil Taylor but he’s barely been on TV since he retired. Why? He’s arrogant, self absorbed and is not very good at giving credit to others, especially MVG, so wouldn’t make for a great pundit.
Wayne Mardle didn’t win a major yet he’s fantastic on the darts punditry because he’s got charisma and he’s relatable.
Sky obviously want Soccer Saturday to appeal to a wider audience and so they need a more diverse panel to appeal to that audience.
I agree with all of that - although I did hear an interview with Ryan Giggs the other day where Robbie savage was interviewing him over the phone and he came across so much better, seemed relaxed and even had a sense of humour
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
you wonder wrong
It was sometimes on free view xx
Oi! Stop butting in on my private wonderings, they're private see!!! :angry:
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
You clearly are which spells danger in itself.
A Nonce is anyone convicted of a sex crime, so yes, yes he is.
A nonce is almost exclusively used to describe depraved adults who perform sexual acts on children
Paedophiles
Rapists are not known as nonces in the prison system but they get a good beating
What happened when you went up to Phil Taylor and called him a nonce ?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
A nonce is almost exclusively used to describe depraved adults who perform sexual acts on children
Paedophiles
Rapists are not known as nonces in the prison system but they get a good beating
What happened when you went up to Phil Taylor and called him a nonce ?
Wrong.
None of your business.
Stop derailing another thread.
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Wrong.
None of your business.
Stop derailing another thread.
Right
Is that because it didn't happen ?
No
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
So its basically someone who abuses children
So Phil Taylor who is guilty of serious sexual offences against women , is not a nonce so that's why he gave JR Tolkien a slap when the latter shouted at him
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
So its basically someone who abuses children
So Phil Taylor who is guilty of serious sexual offences against women , is not a nonce so that's why he gave JR Tolkien a slap when the latter shouted at him
The above source as well as this Oxford Dictionary: https://www.lexico.com/definition/nonce
seem to state that the term is not used exclusively in relation to children.
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
A person convicted of a sexual offence , especially against a child
That suggests clearly that nonce refers almost exclusively to child sex offenders
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
A person convicted of a sexual offence , especially against a child
That suggests clearly that nonce refers almost exclusively to child sex offenders
no it doesn't
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
A person convicted of a sexual offence , especially against a child
That suggests clearly that nonce refers almost exclusively to child sex offenders
Can you read?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
A person convicted of a sexual offence , especially against a child
That suggests clearly that nonce refers almost exclusively to child sex offenders
Not exclusively then.
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Unlucky Sludge
I must admit that I was under the same impression as Sludge until I looked it up
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
I must admit that I was under the same impression as Sludge until I looked it up
It’s most commonly used as a slang name for peados but can also apply to other sex offenders too.
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
So its basically someone who abuses children
So Phil Taylor who is guilty of serious sexual offences against women , is not a nonce so that's why he gave JR Tolkien a slap when the latter shouted at him
I also led a chorus of “Phil Taylor is a wanker, is a wanker” after his fans were singing “Walking in a Taylor wonderland”.
There were a lot of Gary Anderson fans in that night who were more than happy to sing a long with me. My wife wasn’t impressed though.
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Unlucky Sludge
course it is , everybody knows calling someone a nonce is suggesting they are or were a child abuser
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
Llandaff Blue
Can you read?
well everyone I know is aware that a nonce is a child abuser or an alleged child abuser
Clearly the rest of this board hear about a bloke caught groping a womans breast when she's drunk and think ........nonce .......instead of dirty , creepy sad act
Who gets the biggest beatings in prison a nonce who has done what nonces do , abuse children or a bloke who has a history of groping women when they are not able to give consent ?
I know the score
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
I also led a chorus of “Phil Taylor is a wanker, is a wanker” after his fans were singing “Walking in a Taylor wonderland”.
There were a lot of Gary Anderson fans in that night who were more than happy to sing a long with me. My wife wasn’t impressed though.
how pissed were you ?
How close were you to Taylor when you let him have it ?
Did you storm the stage ?
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
well everyone I know is aware that a nonce is a child abuser or an alleged child abuser
Clearly the rest of this board hear about a bloke caught groping a womans breast when she's drunk and think ........nonce .......instead of dirty , creepy sad act
Who gets the biggest beatings in prison a nonce who has done what nonces do , abuse children or a bloke who has a history of groping women when they are not able to give consent ?
I know the score
Sludge, the term Nonce was and is used for all sex offenders. Paedophiles get generally termed as ‘Beasts’.
Phil Taylor is a nonce.
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I also thought it meant paedophiles but can I just take a minute to take my hat off to TBG, the first person brave enough to google nonce
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load of nonce sense on here
Nonces are child sex offenders
Bloke near me was bullied as a kid , he was born with a hair lip and had port wine stains all over his face and neck
He's a hunchback
Had a episode in his life when he cracked , he was arrested by police after trying to steal underwear from a washing line . He had loads of female underwear in his flat .
He was referred for psychiatric treatment , he was called the knicker nicker for years
Pretty creepy for a woman to be in her garden to see a bloke robbing her bra off the washing line
He's a nonce isn't he ?
Hes committed acts and appears to be a sexual deviant
Clearly a nonce
Or , is he a troubled individual who needed expert psychiatric treatment instead of prison ?
The court clearly said he was in need of help
Phil taylor took sexual advantage of two women which were not under 16 , totally out of order
If those women were 6 year old kids and he went to prison he would be in the wing for
Paedophiles
Nonces
There was a bloke in cardiff used to abuse his kids and then run a boiling hot bath and drop them in it
Nonce
I am off fishing
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
well everyone I know is aware that a nonce is a child abuser or an alleged child abuser
Clearly the rest of this board hear about a bloke caught groping a womans breast when she's drunk and think ........nonce .......instead of dirty , creepy sad act
Who gets the biggest beatings in prison a nonce who has done what nonces do , abuse children or a bloke who has a history of groping women when they are not able to give consent ?
I know the score
Christ no wonder you're single and spend all your time posting crap here.
We all know nonce means child sex offender, however the word can be applied to anyone who has committed a sexual assault, just like big Phil. End of
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does anyone watch the football show on BT sports saturday afternoons if your not at a game ?
there coverage is pretty decent covering games
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This message board never ceases to entertain. What a pair of wet lettuces arguing over the definition of what a 'nonce' is :hehe::hehe::hehe:
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Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
To add some balance there are plenty of white English footballers who’ve got a punditry gig just because they’ve played a few seasons in the Premier League and they are no good / chat absolute bollocks.
Jamie O Hara is one who springs instantly to mind. Little wonder Talksport have picked him up with the nonsense he spouts.
He don’t half come out with some pearlers fair play
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Originally Posted by
Trigger
"We especially welcome applications from disabled, BAME females who represent LGBT"
You need the full new title L.G.B.T.Q.I.A.+ to enable full equal opportunity
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Originally Posted by
Jordi Culé
Sky are bringing in new blood in an effort for their customers to relate better to their pundits.
Out with the white middle aged throw backs in with the shiny, aesthetic, politically sanctioned new presenters.
Tell me who watches Sky Sports again and probably accounts for a large percentage of their audience demographic?
I'm playing shit stirrer here.
Sky is for star gazzing plastics
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
load of nonce sense on here
Nonces are child sex offenders
Bloke near me was bullied as a kid , he was born with a hair lip and had port wine stains all over his face and neck
He's a hunchback
Had a episode in his life when he cracked , he was arrested by police after trying to steal underwear from a washing line . He had loads of female underwear in his flat .
He was referred for psychiatric treatment , he was called the knicker nicker for years
Pretty creepy for a woman to be in her garden to see a bloke robbing her bra off the washing line
He's a nonce isn't he ?
Hes committed acts and appears to be a sexual deviant
Clearly a nonce
Or , is he a troubled individual who needed expert psychiatric treatment instead of prison ?
The court clearly said he was in need of help
Phil taylor took sexual advantage of two women which were not under 16 , totally out of order
If those women were 6 year old kids and he went to prison he would be in the wing for
Paedophiles
Nonces
There was a bloke in cardiff used to abuse his kids and then run a boiling hot bath and drop them in it
Nonce
I am off fishing
Hang on
I’m getting the word.....
Nonce
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
how pissed were you ?
How close were you to Taylor when you let him have it ?
Did you storm the stage ?
Fairly
Pretty close
No
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
does anyone watch the football show on BT sports saturday afternoons if your not at a game ?
there coverage is pretty decent covering games
To be fair that show is even less diverse than Soccer Saturday.