Radio 1 refusing to play Fairytale of New York without edit.

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Originally Posted by lardy

You shouldn't be singing songs at him in the office though, really.

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Well there is that.

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Originally Posted by celticknight

It's funny how you always manage to remember someone who was able to hand-wave or justify whatever is being discussed.

"Oh, we used to have a black guy work with us! "Darkie" we all called him, he never told us to stop so it couldn't have been racist!"

You worked with 1 student, so everyone under a certain age is as "precious" as her. You remember 1 Brighton fan who apparently spoke on behalf of all Brighton fans. You remember 1 client who called his wife "half-caste" (a term the Oxford Dictionary calls "offensive") but because she never stopped her husband from using it every mixed race person in the entire world is now comfortable with you using that term.

I'll call you a c*nt then. I called someone a c*nt before and he laughed, so that means I can call everyone big ol' c*nty c*nt too then. And no one is allowed to tell me otherwise. And that word should be taken off the swear filter, cos 1 person laughed at it so it's not offensive.

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You wouldn't be the first to call me a ****, and ill hasten to add you won't be the last. Quack quack its all water off a ducks back.

My anecdotes are based on life experience. Some of us venture beyond the end of our street on occasion. Its a big world out there.

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Originally Posted by Feedback

My anecdotes are based on life experience.

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anecdotal

adjective

"(of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research."

But please, feel free to continue saying how some of your opinions are correct and the majority of people who think otherwise are wrong.

As you say, it's a "big world" out there. And most people have decided that some of the terms you wish you could still say belong in the past

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Originally Posted by Feedback

My anecdotes are based on life experience. Some of us venture beyond the end of our street on occasion. Its a big world out there.

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yes your tales of the wife of a client and of working with a Brighton fan paint a picture of a life full of adventure and daredevil excitement

Just catching up with this thread this morning as I see it has reached the 5 page mark, so must be interesting I thought. Sadly no, just full of keyboard warriors once again calling each other names. Some of you need to take a good long look at what you have written and reflect on it. The word shameful comes to mind but that is obviously such an old fashioned expression, shame being a concept that belongs in the past I guess. What comes out of your mouth comes from your heart.

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Originally Posted by delmbox

yes your tales of the wife of a client and of working with a Brighton fan paint a picture of a life full of adventure and daredevil excitement

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it gets better, these were clients of an accountant

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Originally Posted by celticknight

anecdotal
adjective

"(of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research."

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Thanks, I always wondered whether I knew what anecdote meant, and you have clarified my understanding was correct all along. There is a reason people, such has me, use anecdote - its to show it is based on personal experience alone.

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Originally Posted by celticknight

But please, feel free to continue saying how some of your opinions are correct and the majority of people who think otherwise are wrong.

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I've never once said my opinions are correct. Its unclear from what you have written how an opinion, being subjective, can be correct or otherwise. Perhaps you can elucidate further?

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Originally Posted by celticknight

As you say, it's a "big world" out there. And most people have decided that some of the terms you wish you could still say belong in the past

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I've never once said such terms should stay. You're just making things up now to suit your narrative.

Nick Cave has his say:
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/nick-cave-...103735906.html
Nick Cave weighs in on ‘Fairytale of New York’ controversy: ‘The BBC continue to mutilate an artefact of immense cultural value’
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Cave went on to claim that the change in lyrics means that “Fairytale of New York” is no longer a “great song”.

He said that the track becomes “a song that has been tampered with, compromised, tamed, and neutered and can no longer be called a great song”.

“It is a song that has lost its truth, its honour and integrity – a song that has knelt down and allowed the BBC to do its grim and sticky business,” Cave added.

The 63-year-old went on to suggest that instead of altering the lyrics, if they were deemed to be offensive then “Radio 1 should have made the decision to simply ban the song, and allow it to retain its outlaw spirit and its dignity”.

“In the end, I feel sorry for ‘Fairytale’, a song so gloriously problematic, as great works of art so often are, performed by one of the most scurrilous and seditious bands of our time, whose best shows were so completely and triumphantly out of order, they had to be seen to believed,” he said.

“Yet, time and time again the integrity of this magnificent song is tested."

Last year, the debate around the song was reignited again, after the uncensored version was performed in the Gavin and Stacey Christmas special.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOBvRs4btvE

Not a big Ed Sheeran fan but this live lounge duet with Anne-Marie is a good listen