A close family member, a consultant at UHW, and a so called front line worker, is getting her first jab in a couple of weeks time!! And Wales is siting on 200,000 doses. Get real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
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A close family member, a consultant at UHW, and a so called front line worker, is getting her first jab in a couple of weeks time!! And Wales is siting on 200,000 doses. Get real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
My brother in law had his last week,and he is only a porter.get realQuote:
Originally Posted by lisvaneblue
Well she's still waiting. Glad your in law had his....it seems there's plenty to go around.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
I dont think people are falling for Johnson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
Him and his front bench are a complete disaster. In the worst period probably since WW2 we have the most useless government in memory. A bunch inept and completely out of their depth.
However the roll out in Wales is on the likes of Drakeford , Gething and co.
Hopefully they are up to it.
Well thats crap , as England's is crap , but not as bad as the local branch of the Conservative party would have us believe 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by Vindec
Worth remembering aswell that Boris has not promised to vaccinate 15 million people (the over 70's) by mid-February - he has promised to invite them to be vaccinated by this date.
All he has promised to do is send out 15 million letters.
Remember last May and the Tory's promise to test 100k people a day - they got there by sending out thousands of tests in the post a couple of days before.
Spin spin and more spin.
I thought England were at 2% and we were at 2.2% but may have heard incorrectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vindec
Really?
Wales is way behind. My Mum is having her’s on Friday but most elderly people haven’t heard anything yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
By contrast, where I live, everyone’s parents that I know have already had theirs and are booked in for the second shot.
Wales looks to have truly messed this up in comparison to England.
Well let's wait for the stats , I mean matt Hancock?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
Fecking Tony Hancock
100 billion for the NHS on the side of the tory battle bus at brexit time
Now if we are talking lies and fibs ......
It was 300 billion Sludge....fecking lying ToriesQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
BBC News - NHS Covid-19 jab letters 'confusing over 80s'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-55605149
What a tosser drakeford is , can't believe this latest news
I think you are nit picking hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
If Johnson and his mob live up to to their promises about getting the first four groups vaccinated by mid February, then they'll deserve credit for that, but, for me. it would be like scoring a goal when you're 5-0 down - the damage has been done as far as they're concerned so it's definitely not a case of falling for "machismo" for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
However. just because I'm more aligned to Labour politically, that doesn't mean that the WAG are immune from criticism. The amount they were behind in the vaccination process wasn't huge, but it's early in the process and if it continued at the rate seen so far, the gap between Wales and the other three nations would become a very significant one quite quickly. Hopefully, there's been a degree of catching up going on in recent days, but that doesn't make Drakeford's "this is not a sprint" remark any less crass and misjudged.
If theres a huge amount of these included in Johnsons 13m plus by mid February then hes taking the entire UK for complete mugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
People need vaccination not letters. Lets hope if they cant get to a centre they are vaccinated locally very quickly. Fail and please Johnson quit.
My cousin is an NHS worker at UHW and got hers yesterday, not front line either so seems strange there is such a wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by lisvaneblue
350 million, and just for clarity, it wasn't a Tory Brexit bus it was just a Brexit bus. But you know both those things don't you? :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
My father in law is 96, not heard a dicky bird yet
Same thingQuote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
The medications regulatory authority put half of the vaccines on hold , they couldn't have been used even if the capacity to deliver them had been there .
Drakeford is useless but up the M4 the mad march hare is in charge
If any of you feckers think he's doing a good job or believe anything that comes out of his gob you are as stupid as he is . He's taking the piss and is even more useless than drakeford
If Labour get voted out in May you will soon see what shite is !
Good luck 👍
£350m week does not equal 300bn does it?. My poor maths tell me the figure should be 182bn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
A Plaid-Lab coalition is more likely than a Tory government if Labour fail to get a majorityQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Of course the Tories have made mistakes - massive ones on test and trace and PPE in particular. Other mistakes include confusing messaging, being slow to react and the lockdown arrangements which have been far too lax. The mortality and case figures are worrying and the UK record is statistically poor. Compliance with the rules has also been a major factor; apparently far too many people are putting their civil rights above all else.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
However the government has done well in backing and securing the different vaccines ahead of many other countries. Why they set the February target to offer vaccines to the first 4 groups was plain daft given they are so reliant on the manufacturers delivering the vaccine as well as the government's history of over promising and under delivering.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...thing-19600091
So the same sort of 'promise' as England.
The interesting thing will be how many actually vaccinated. Over 50s by 20th March sounds great. Unless the offer of an appointment is for next winter.
86k vaccinations given in Wales now according to the new daily figure.
I don't see anything wrong with the promise of offering vaccines for the over 70s by mid February and the over 50s by 20 March as the government has no control over those who refuse the vaccine. Obviously the public will not be fooled by offers of appointments weeks ahead of the target date. In order to meet any target relies, not only the arrangements governments have made, but on the manufacturers ability to manufacture, package and delivery their products on time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
I guess they have trouble getting the vaccines to hospitals.
My 82 year old mum has been in Hospital since Boxing day, first the heath now Llandough and no sign of the vaccine for her.
I can see why Mr Drakeford said it wasn't a sprint.
I have lost faith in our Governments during this pandemic. Totally inept all of them .
Just announced
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55615202
:sherlock:
Well I think its fair to say I am left wing but if the Labour Party had a vote of no confidence in the front bench of the current Welsh government and got rid of drakeford I would be a lot happierQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
Hes not good enough and no leader
I would have that Rebecca Evans , the current finance minister , bright woman
My 80 year old brother in Cheshire had his first jab before Christmas and his second yesterday (he has no underlying health problems). His friends of the same age have all had theirs as well.
Eluned Morgan is being lined up to take over. If elected in May, Drakeford will stand down midway next term.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Not sure what you have against Drakeford tbh, Sludge. Had a reasonable pandemic so far.
Hes flat , no charismaQuote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
I would prefer Evans to eluned Morgan
My partner's mother is 93 and lives in Coventry, the city where the first televised Pfizzer jab was given.
She has not had her first jab. She has not had an appointment. She did get a letter this morning to advertise the Birmingham mega vaccine centre - if she can get herself along there. She can't.
My mam is 89 and lives in Worcestershire with my brother. She had her first jab last week (total chaos in the Evesham surgery - long queues down the road in bad weather because there should have been 12 nurses administering jabs but there were only 4 because Covid exposure has taken the other 8 out to self isolate - and no social distancing at all once in the building).
There will be plenty of examples of good and bad vaccination experiences from England and Wales. None will tell the whole story.
'He's flat'Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
That a typo Sludge?
I think that's a very fair summary. There will be ups and downs. Until we get to 15thFeb when both England and Wales have promised vulnerable groups will be vaccinated or had offers you can't really make a judgement.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
By means of comparison our rate today of 2.2 puts us easily in the top countries worldwide. Yes we may be behind other UK nations, but other countries are probably looking at our roll out with envy.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
I wonder why the UK figures are so out of date?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Because they were being published weekly until today?Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Most up to date data I can get is on 'coronavirus.data.uk.govQuote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Daily cases for UK shown, but on left is a selection option. Click 'healthcare' and you are into much more information for UK and an option for each country. Graphs are featured but you can also select 'data' which gets into the numbers
Well worth a look.