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He was talking about the players not being coached properly, basics not being done properly, not being motivated. He was furious that we kept leaving it until the second half when we were losing to start playing in games. I usually listen to the radio coverage of games and watch the official stream about 30 seconds later, probably because I want to know what's happening straight away and don't like the online commentary. Blakey was livid last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
If he does come back then it will be with a lower league club and not a Championship side. Harris has created a team that mirrors the one in terms of league position and performances that got him sacked at MillwallQuote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
What is sought after in a DoF role? Contacts within the game, forward thinking and capability to ensure a good plan comes to fruition, good communication, good record in transfer market, builds good relationships with different managers and different roles within the club...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyncoed Slumdog
How does McCarthy fill those? I do agree that caretaker to secure our footing in this league is needed though, and then Tan to put up quite a bit of money to fill in positional needs due to holes in squad and to improve our midfield also.
Re: DoF, I'd much rather Bellamy become our DoF and build a philosophy over 5 years rather than our manager for 3 years max.
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Some people can't see it, go back to what Millwall fans said about him and they are spot on and that's with them giving him the benefit of the doubt as a fans favourite.
I'd say covid lockdown helped us we came back fitter than most and did well, Harris messed it up in the play offs with Pack and cost us. He had a chance to push on, we paid fees while other teams didn't and instead of kicking on we have gone backwards even more than I could predict and my opinion of Harris was very low from day one.
I would be baffled by Mccarthy, he's not awful but it's hardly inspiring or progressive.
Similar to when Harris replaced Warnock I'd feel it fairly pointless and fear we would be back having the same discussion again in 12-18 months.
We aren't really that close to relegation at the moment that we need to panic.
I wonder if the club still think it could make the playoffs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trigger
Mick McCarthy
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
The only good thing I can think of regarding that appointment is that it would save me some £400 on next year's season ticket
:wave::wave::wave::wave:
Mick McCarthy? F*cks sake.
I have always liked Mick McCarthy - very strong personality, grounded and funny. I just don’t want him as the manager of my football club.
If McCarthy is appointed, I'll go into hibernation and not re-appear until he's gone. Dull, uninspiring, a complete disaster.
Surely Tan et al have to know McCarthy will not be a popular choice? And most likely not a good one.
Personally, I’d be happy with Pulis, Jokanovic or Pearson (I would have said Bilic, but he’s just gone to China).
However, an excellent combination would be Mark Hughes, with Bellamy as his assistant.
Both have enormous respect for each other, from working together at Blackburn and Wales.
Regardless what some think of Hughes, he has done very well at the smaller clubs he’s managed.
Took Blackburn to a top six finish, Stoke to three ninth place Premier League finishes in a row, and kept up a Southampton side most had written off for relegation.
Throw in his international experience with Wales and with them both being Welsh, dream ticket.
They also both have the standing to command respect in the changing room, and to entice players to come here.
Bellamy could learn the ropes off Hughes, and if and when the time was right, succeed him and Hughes move upstairs to become a Director of Football.
Wasn’t that what was said about Warnock?Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Surely McCarthy ticks all the boxes? He’s available and would in all likelihood accept the job without having much money to spend, and plays a style of football that fits the philosophy of the club
Don't think so, thought it was almost universally accepted we needed someone like him and would be good for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toadstool
Might be remembering wrong.
Harris a lot of people weren't happy with.
oh dear one or all of the gods no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyncoed Slumdog
Just looked, McCarthy odds on. I'm not surprised with shite but that is shite.
If it’s Mick McCarthy on a 6 month role OK
But where’s the future planning. What actually is our plan?
Well it all depends if you equate good management only in terms of trophies won. You only have to look at what's happened to Ipswich Town since Mick McCarthy left to realise that, with very little to spend in the transfer market, he did a very good job at that club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
However, I'd be far from excited by a McCarthy appointment here. I'd like to think that under him it wouldn't be quite as bad as full on Warnockball, but I'm fairly sure the football would be attritional, set piece orientated and pretty grim - as was mentioned earlier in the thread, City fans have had to watch some right dross for nearly a decade now, can't we have someone who tries to play an attractive brand of football please?
As I refuse to pay any newspaper's paywall charges, I've not read the Telegraph article - does it say that McCarthy would only be a short term appointment?Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
I like your take on Hughes & Bellamy I would be well happy with that set up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebird23
hopefully we plan to sack himQuote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Please, please, PLEASE not McCarthy.
I will actually be so angry at our board if they choose him. Even if you could look into future and guarantee he would replicate the short term success Neil Warnock had I still wouldn’t want him.
Fed up of treading water.
Why do you refuse, out of interest? As someone who has had more experience of being a journo then the vast majority of the board, that surprised me.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
There’s no substance in the article whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
That one article is probably the sole reason why Mc Carthy is the favourite.
ohhh get ****t....we don't have anything approaching a philosophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grangenders
I’ve seen a lot of talk about wanting Bellamy. My personal opinion but he hasn’t got the experience and in all honesty I just wouldn’t want him. Great player for us but not managerial material at this time. I’d take Mick McCarthy over most of the mentioned managers. I mean he has a wealth of experience and can work well on a buget. It’s just whether we can afford him or whether we will have to go lower.
I cant believe one of Harris biggest critics and of our style is actually backing a Mick McMcarthy appointment.
Then theres another with Tony Pulis.
😂😂😂😂😂
I couldn't care less about the brand of football McCarthy would play its the voice and dour interviews that would drive me mad.
Oh for someone young and cool.
I hope our prospective manager gets to see this thread.
It will give him a pretty good idea of what he will have to get used to :hehe:
I think a McCarthy appointment would not be a good one and very much a stop gap. If so I really hope it is until the end of the season to safeguard us in the division and then take stock.
It would be an improvement on Harris but would not excite many, would not be a world away from the football we play and ultimately I don't think he would succeed here and would just fizzle out.
If it is McCarthy though it would confirm to me that the board are fairly clueless and as out of touch with the fanbase as they have ever been.
Someone with nice hair and preferable a supporter of Welsh independence.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
Must hate Tories.
What makes Hughes a good choice as DoF? We seem to have the idea that experience as manager qualifies you for that role but almost no DoF is based on that characteristic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebird23
If our aim is still to i) improve playing style, ii) bring through youth, iii) improve in transfer market, iv) establish longer term vision and v) keep us competitive, which targets do you think Pulis, Jokanovic or Pearson can achieve successfully?
Cumon, lets be the first to go "FEMALE" :thumbup:
I used to enjoy "The Manageress" :hehe:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096647/
Great for Sludge
I reckon Pulis has been attending Peps training sessions as an observer.
Pulis DOF
Big Mick manager.
Dream Team.
We will need a bigger stadium.
😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Maybe preferable to Pulis.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Or Mick.
And so it beginsQuote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
Reading through some of the opinions on here and on social media, are you sure that's a bad thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj