Wolves after Kieffer Moore?

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Originally Posted by surge

David Ornstein of The Athletic also reporting it.

In my opinion, Wolves aren't going to offer an amount that Cardiff find acceptable. He's too important to us, and not enough time to use any capital raised, with too many risks involved for them to make a high offer. He's not even in last year of his contract so we're unlikely to accept much less than we think he's worth.

Counter to that is Wolves struggling to score and Welsh coach being there...but I don't think it's enough.

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Originally Posted by surge

I know we're having to cut costs but we know in 12 months we lose 10 players (I'd expect 7 of those to be amongst higher earners at the club) which means drastic cost cutting is going to happen naturally in a really short period of time.

I don't see us accepting less than we got for Michael Chopra in 07/08, when we were in a really desperate position, seeing that it's so much later in the window and Moore is a better player.

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Chopra went for 5 million. I think the club will go for between 6 and 8

Nothing to worry about as we have Vassell to come back in!!

Glen Williams of Wales Online saying the two clubs are "so far apart on their valuations of Kieffer Moore" and Rob Phillips is saying Cardiff aren't impressed by the late move but resolve could be tested

Sky now saying its all off, as Wolves have refused to pay Cardiff's asking price of £12m. Good.

We’ve asked for £12m

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Originally Posted by tforturton

Sky now saying its all off, as Wolves have refused to pay Cardiff's asking price of £12m. Good.

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Dalman will drive him up there himself for 6m

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Originally Posted by City123

Glen Williams of Wales Online saying the two clubs are "so far apart on their valuations of Kieffer Moore" and Rob Phillips is saying Cardiff aren't impressed by the late move but resolve could be tested

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I have no knowledge on this at all but I hope this isn't the club trying to be clever with the media and force the blame onto Kieffer and Wolves at such a late stage. We sell him because we had to and then no replacement. It's too late in the window, it's a simple no - not for sale.

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Originally Posted by Grangenders

We’ve asked for £12m

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I wonder if we're fixed at that price or room to movement? I still don't see Wolves offering £9.5million or more and therefore will be surprised if it goes through.

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Originally Posted by surge

David Ornstein of The Athletic also reporting it.

In my opinion, Wolves aren't going to offer an amount that Cardiff find acceptable. He's too important to us, and not enough time to use any capital raised, with too many risks involved for them to make a high offer. He's not even in last year of his contract so we're unlikely to accept much less than we think he's worth.

Counter to that is Wolves struggling to score and Welsh coach being there...but I don't think it's enough.

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Originally Posted by surge

I wonder if we're fixed at that price or room to movement? I still don't see Wolves offering £9.5million or more and therefore will be surprised if it goes through.

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I'm surprised the club has asked for that much and are standing their ground. Have to give some credit.

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Originally Posted by tforturton

Sky now saying its all off, as Wolves have refused to pay Cardiff's asking price of £12m. Good.

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Fair price to both parties

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I'm surprised the club has asked for that much and are standing their ground. Have to give some credit.

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£12m not enough - but too much for Wolves. Good!

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I'm surprised the club has asked for that much and are standing their ground. Have to give some credit.

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Tan will be furious

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Tan will be furious

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Apparently Wolves have offered 10 but the transfer committee is holding out for 7. Tense times. Tense times.

It might take a while for things to go right on the pitch but how many times does the board have to act in a sensible way before critics on here aren't so quick into every thread?

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Originally Posted by surge

It might take a while for things to go right on the pitch but how many times does the board have to act in a sensible way before critics on here aren't so quick into every thread?

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What was sensible about signing Wintle then loaning him out?

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

What was sensible about signing Wintle then loaning him out?

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He gets experience at Champ level, while we probably haven't been able to shift one of our CMs?

I'm amazed we've stood firm on Moore.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

He gets experience at Champ level, while we probably haven't been able to shift one of our CMs?

I'm amazed we've stood firm on Moore.

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Alternatively we could have got someone in who could do a job straight away and improve our midfield, an area that’s crying out for improvement.

You swear he was 18/19 years old ffs, he’ll be 25 before the season finishes.

Pull your head out of the sand man. The club is a shambles.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Alternatively we could have got someone in who could do a job straight away and improve our midfield, an area that’s crying out for improvement.

You swear he was 18/19 years old ffs, he’ll be 25 before the season finishes.

Pull your head out of the sand man. The club is a shambles.

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I think most people who watch League One football said Wintle would be a good signing. It might not have worked out but he's probably cheap, its a big step up so we will see.

I don't disagree with your last sentence, mind although I think most of our recent signings have been half decent.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Alternatively we could have got someone in who could do a job straight away and improve our midfield, an area that’s crying out for improvement.

You swear he was 18/19 years old ffs, he’ll be 25 before the season finishes.

Pull your head out of the sand man. The club is a shambles.

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this is probably the least shambles we've been in years

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Originally Posted by Rjk

this is probably the least shambles we've been in years

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Signing Wintle would have made more sense if a coupe of the 4 central midfielders at the club had been moved on (Ralls, Vaulks, Pack, Bacuna). Perhaps that's what the club were hoping for.... Reduced wage bill and reduced age of the squad.

On the basis that didn't happen then at this stage loaning him out seems sensible while the others are still around.

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Originally Posted by AfricanBluebird

Apparently Wolves have offered 10 but the transfer committee is holding out for 7. Tense times. Tense times.

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Live From Molineux, Mehmet and Wolves Head of recruitment in tense negotiations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2iZjxSGca8

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Alternatively we could have got someone in who could do a job straight away and improve our midfield, an area that’s crying out for improvement.

You swear he was 18/19 years old ffs, he’ll be 25 before the season finishes.

Pull your head out of the sand man. The club is a shambles.

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Logic would indicate 25 is 2 years younger than Keiffer Moore was before having a good Championship season.

Wintle missed part of pre-season with a groin injury. It seem likely he'd play the Pack role in our midfield; maybe it was decided he could go out and play competitive games due to not displacing Pack at this moment in time; someone like Bowen could sit on the bench. Who knows?

Who could have come in and improved our midfield at the same cost, wages as Wintle?

Rumour I’ve read is Wolves offered in the region of £3mio so their offer was way too low for us to even consider

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Originally Posted by Don Corleone

Rumour I’ve read is Wolves offered in the region of £3mio so their offer was way too low for us to even consider

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Really? If that's correct, then that's one serious piss take. I reckon that the club would've taken 8 million, although there's people saying that they wanted 12 million and have stood firm.

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Originally Posted by logic

Logic would indicate 25 is 2 years younger than Keiffer Moore was before having a good Championship season.

Wintle missed part of pre-season with a groin injury. It seem likely he'd play the Pack role in our midfield; maybe it was decided he could go out and play competitive games due to not displacing Pack at this moment in time; someone like Bowen could sit on the bench. Who knows?

Who could have come in and improved our midfield at the same cost, wages as Wintle?

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Logic says you’re a sad tw.at with far too much time on his hands.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Logic says you’re a sad tw.at with far too much time on his hands.

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Been waiting for someone to say this! :hehe: :hehe:

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Logic says you’re a sad tw.at with far too much time on his hands.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Logic says you’re a sad tw.at with far too much time on his hands.

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Logic deduces an inability to answer comments, instead resorting to abuse as per usual.

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Originally Posted by logic

Logic deduces an inability to answer comments, instead resorting to abuse as per usual.

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Logic has fathomed that you are an old poster with a new alias.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Logic has fathomed that you are an old poster with a new alias.

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Up there with spellchecker.

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Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman

Up there with spellchecker.

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Yess, I yoused to misss hhim.

Wikipedia has him as a Wolves player. I was only checking his age.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Really? If that's correct, then that's one serious piss take. I reckon that the club would've taken 8 million, although there's people saying that they wanted 12 million and have stood firm.

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Someone said their last bid was 5m. That's a joke. Moore should be more annoyed with Wolves than with us based on that offer.

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Originally Posted by Dave Blue

Wikipedia has him as a Wolves player. I was only checking his age.

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Anyone can edit Wikipedia

Being reported that Wolves' offer didn't even go as high as £7m when including add ons. Cheeky bastards.

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Originally Posted by City123

Anyone can edit Wikipedia

Being reported that Wolves' offer didn't even go as high as £7m when including add ons. Cheeky bastards.

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Vassell has been at it. Trying to fool Mick.

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Originally Posted by logic

Logic deduces an inability to answer comments, instead resorting to abuse as per usual.

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Logic dictates that your assumption of this posters character and your short time on this platform dictates that you are a poor attempt at a multi wind up account.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Someone said their last bid was 5m. That's a joke. Moore should be more annoyed with Wolves than with us based on that offer.

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Yes, I heard their first offer was £3mio then upped to £5mio, he is worth a lot more to us than that! We paid more for both Glatzel and Madine!