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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
I don’t know what to think of that. So many talking points but when they went down to 10 we should’ve picked them off, we looked clueless and lacked belief.
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Vindec
That was a penalty for them in the end. If that was against one of our players we would be shouting for a stonewall penalty. However, their goal was offside but this is a point won rather than two lost.
Bang on. You win some, you lose some. Ref evened it out. Next game please.
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Vindec
He wasn't. It was Pack.
SSN saying it was Flint for foul and abusive language.
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Vindec
He wasn't. It was Pack.
it was Flint
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
Davies was promising when he came on and for me he should start before Harris.
Really? He was either on the floor, bouncing off defenders or mistiming his run. Can see the potential, he needs to find the space and play away from the defenders. Didn’t see anything better than Harris has.
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Originally on BBC website there was no confirmation. There is now.
He should not have been allowed to stay on the pitch at the end to applaud the Cardiff fans.
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Don Corleone
No idea why Collins was trying to stop Valerian getting to the ref at the end, nothing to do with you, let him go and maybe he gets suspended and Flint doesn’t get sent off
Agree.
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Vindec
He wasn't. It was Pack.
Where have u got it was Pack?. Seemed to show the red at Flint and all reports have Flint.
Of course there was such mayhem they could be wrong.
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Vindec
He wasn't. It was Pack.
He wasn't. It was Flint.
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
Really? He was either on the floor, bouncing off defenders or mistiming his run. Can see the potential, he needs to find the space and play away from the defenders. Didn’t see anything better than Harris has.
Twice he was in and mis timed his run. Atleast he was in a position to get it wrong though, that's positive :hehe:
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Straight red for Mowatt, the West Brom commentators say definite red, but it’s a weak red. Can’t work that one out:shrug:
Strange pair them commentators.
"He's got him round the throat" for the pen. Not when close on the clip I saw..
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
2b2bdoo
I’m happy with a point.
Haven’t seen any replays but their goal looked office and they could have had a pen at the end.
makes sense, you would probably find a pen in an office
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Vindec
That was a penalty for them in the end. If that was against one of our players we would be shouting for a stonewall penalty. However, their goal was offside but this is a point won rather than two lost.
they're almost always given, I never think they should be though, no way was the contact enough to bring him down. can see why they're annoyed though
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
SSN all about the penalty not given at the end but haven't even mentioned their miles offside "goal".
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
Ref was kind to us there i thought.
Dreadful defending at the death.
Hadn't the whistle gone?
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
SSN all about the penalty not given at the end but haven't even mentioned their mukes offside "goal".
mukes of hazard
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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ninian opinian
Thought so at the time, but red button doesn't show replays, and you can't pause/rewind either.
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Rjk
they're almost always given, I never think they should be though, no way was the contact enough to bring him down. can see why they're annoyed though
Exactly, no way was there enough pressure to bring him down, the way he goes down makes that pretty obvious as well
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Vindec
He wasn't. It was Pack.
It was Flint.
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Splott-light...
mukes of hazard
Feck me that was a quick reply. I corrected my mistake :tongue:
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
‘Nine Men West Brom, held by Cardiff’ according to the BBC. How ridiculous.
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
SSN all about the penalty not given at the end but haven't even mentioned their miles offside "goal".
Obviously. It happened at the death and caused all the action at the final whistle. Its the bigger talking point.
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Bang on. You win some, you lose some. Ref evened it out. Next game please.
Didn't expect to get anything away to them so to get a point i'm pretty happy :xmasayatollah:
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Re: FT: WEST BROMWICH ALBION 1 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Where have u got it was Pack?. Seemed to show the red at Flint and all reports have Flint.
Of course there was such mayhem they could be wrong.
On the Sky Red Button the commentary said Pack but there was such chaos at the end it could have been Flint. The WBA manager was to blame for all of this and I'm sure the authorities will do something about that retrospectively.
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Re: FT: WEST BROMWICH ALBION 1 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
We had no idea what to do once they went down to 10 which is disappointing
Decent point though
Supposedly there was an altercation in the dugout with West Brom fans shouting at Vaulks that he's a cheat etc, pathetic. That challenge was awful and Vaulks could have been seriously injured
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Don Corleone
No idea why Collins was trying to stop Valerian getting to the ref at the end, nothing to do with you, let him go and maybe he gets suspended and Flint doesn’t get sent off
Yep.
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Re: FT: WEST BROMWICH ALBION 1 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
Obviously. It happened at the death and caused all the action at the final whistle. Its the bigger talking point.
So you reckon if the roles were reversed they would not have mentioned the equalising goal?
We are part of the narrative, which ain't in our favour.
Not paranoia, just fact.
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Re: FT: WEST BROMWICH ALBION 1 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
City123
We had no idea what to do once they went down to 10 which is disappointing
Decent point though
Supposedly there was an altercation in the dugout with West Brom fans shouting at Vaulks that he's a cheat etc, pathetic. That challenge was awful and Vaulks could have been seriously injured
We don't seem to have much going forward - anything attacking was dependent on Giles or a set-piece. Generally solid though and more than I expected.
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Re: FT: WEST BROMWICH ALBION 1 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Bluebirdman Of Alcathays
We don't seem to have much going forward - anything attacking was dependent on Giles or a set-piece. Generally solid though and more than I expected.
Yeah, very little going forward
I suppose the issues is the midfield was very much one that would be described as "functional" rather than creative and clearly the plan was to be solid, that all changes when they go down to 10
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Re: FT: WEST BROMWICH ALBION 1 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Bang on. You win some, you lose some. Ref evened it out. Next game please.
This.
I did say just after it happened we were lucky to get away with the Flint challenge.
Stone waller for me.
Happy with a point there when all's said and done.
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Re: FT: WEST BROMWICH ALBION 1 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Not a penalty for me. Yes, Pack had hands on him, but the WBA player obviously dived. There was no pulling, no shoving. That's the kind of bullshit that gets given by VAR. Most refs wouldn't give that in real-time.
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Re: FT: WEST BROMWICH ALBION 1 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
Not a penalty for me. Yes, Pack had hands on him, but the WBA player obviously dived. There was no pulling, no shoving. That's the kind of bullshit that gets given by VAR. Most refs wouldn't give that in real-time.
Okay, maybe not a stone wall penalty but these are very often given.
It depends how much force there has been in the pull back and only the players themselves know whether it was enough.
Pull a shirt and you run the risk.
If it was outside the box then I reckon they'd be given nine times out of ten and the way that the ref had been officiating all through the game, I would not have been at all surprised had a pelanty been awarded.
I doubt Pack would have had much defence had it been.
It was a stupid challenge whichever way you view it.
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Re: FT: WEST BROMWICH ALBION 1 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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MacAdder
Okay, maybe not a stone wall penalty but these are very often given.
It depends how much force there has been in the pull back and only the players themselves know whether it was enough.
Pull a shirt and you run the risk.
If it was outside the box then I reckon they'd be given nine times out of ten and the way that the ref had been officiating all through the game, I would not have been at all surprised had a pelanty been awarded.
I doubt Pack would have had much defence had it been.
It was a stupid challenge whichever way you view it.
It was stupid. If anyone on here can tell me why Pack had his hands on the WBA players shoulders as he's attempting to get around the outside of him then i'd be interested to know what the reason was. I'd very much doubt that it was for anyone elses benefit apart from pack, and i very much doubt that it would have helped the WBA player in any positive way, in fact, it could be argued that it impeded his movement. Thankfully, the Ref didn't see it that way, probably because they had scored an offside goal and it was the final kick of the game. For me, a penalty, i'd expect it if it was us and i would be disappointed if it wasn't given. As would the majority on here who are saying it wasn't a penalty. That's football.
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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ninian opinian
wow, player between the defender and goal, can't be any easier to spot
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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blue matt
wow, player between the defender and goal, can't be any easier to spot
is there anyone out of picture, to the left?
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
is there anyone out of picture, to the left?
Don't think so. But also looks a '90% penalty' from the replays. Not sure why Pack was doing that, so daft. I'd also like to say what big-hearted bloke Flint is. I know most players give 100% but he just exudes effort and passion. If City could find a 30yr old Bamba to play alongside him in a back 4, we would let in half the goals we currently do.
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
Don't think so. But also looks a '90% penalty' from the replays. Not sure why Pack was doing that, so daft. I'd also like to say what big-hearted bloke Flint is. I know most players give 100% but he just exudes effort and passion. If City could find a 30yr old Bamba to play alongside him in a back 4, we would let in half the goals we currently do.
That's the point, Pack gave the ref a decision to make, idiot. I like Flint, he works hard and doesn't go missing when he makes a mistake or things get tough for him. Limited at times but honest and competitive. He's a good pro.
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Re: FT: WEST BROMWICH ALBION 1 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
I still do not see this as a penalty......
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Re: WEST BROMWICH ALBION v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
Don't think so. But also looks a '90% penalty' from the replays. Not sure why Pack was doing that, so daft. I'd also like to say what big-hearted bloke Flint is. I know most players give 100% but he just exudes effort and passion. If City could find a 30yr old Bamba to play alongside him in a back 4, we would let in half the goals we currently do.
Incredible the turnaround in his Cardiff career, from an overpriced (I'd say he still is) donkey to cult hero!