Perhaps , you’re right to be fair , time will tell like everything else regarding this divisive subject.
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Perhaps , you’re right to be fair , time will tell like everything else regarding this divisive subject.
Week 49 of what - 2021 ? That would mean early December and it is now January 14th. How is 30m booster jabs disappointing. The vaccination figures are provided by the NHS. Just checked online and the figure you gave is for December 12th, so you are using figures that are 5 weeks out of date. You are also using the same data that I was !!Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
I would suggest that you read the figures for January 13th to give you a more accurate idea of what is happening. FFS.
thankfully the welsh red line was lower than the english one:hehe: see i was right all alongQuote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
If Nicola Sturgeon wouldn’t have lifted restrictions north of the border, Drakeford wouldn’t have either. Everyone knew that the lifting of the 6Nations restrictions was the worlds worst kept secret. He had to bow to the pressure from all directions for obvious reasons. Just like the AllBlacks game in October last year, he’ll be sitting in the hospitality section ,with all the other hangers on.
To be fair Croesy this is a subject dear to my heart and I have to say I think you're both correct. It's unhelpful to pit one against the other because the two problems have enormous environmental consequences. I think everyone needs to take personal responsibility as well as accept that for the majority of our lives we're lied to (advertising, party politics, corruption, greed etc.).Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Be fair. You have had a nightmare on this issue. How can anyone think that giving over 36m booster jabs in the UK, in around 3 months is ‘disappointing’ is beyond me.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
You are going to get an initial surge , but I thought based on the fact that 483,361 were given in one day in week 49 (2021) then I my opinion it’s disappointing, at the end of the day it was just in reply to why perhaps they have lifted restrictions in England I didn’t realise I had to sense check.Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
It did come across as a little harsh but this is a bit rich from the guy who was calling people "spineless pricks who deserve hatred" and "vermin" a couple of posts agoQuote:
Originally Posted by chrisp_1927
I've never said I completely agree with all these restrictions, they're contradictory in a lot of ways and I can understand people's frustrations, especially when they're causing financial harm. But I do think saying that he's doing it because he's some kind of meglomaniac who's drunk on power is ludicrous, and I do think he's doing it because he feels it's the right thing to do to help the NHSQuote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
I think most people do take personal responsibility I don’t think you can use pissed up teenagers as a festival as a point against that. Especially when everyone knows massive clean ups happen post festival.Quote:
Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew
My main problem with taking personal responsibility is it basically achieves **** all without structural change. I’m washing out my tomato tins after cooking while certain airlines are flying empty planes to keep routes open and oil companies are making more money than ever.
May I be so bold as to ask what grade your wife is in the Civil Service?Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
It's not a clean-up though. It's shifting the problem elsewhere. It's consumption that's the trigger (in the eco sense). Anyway, I don't want to veer off topic too much and it's a thread on its own just to scratch the surface so I'll leave it there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
How can you use 5 week old data to back up your point and accuse other people of using fabricated data provided by the Government when it is the same data but up to date. Since ‘week 49’’ , 11m boosters have been given in England alone or 2.2m a week. Definitely not ‘disappointing’ and one of the major success stories of the pandemic. England have also not cancelled the booster programme, as you claimed. It is still in full swing. The only thing they have done is decide to not introduce Covid passports. Why deliberately post inaccurate information on this ? You also accused doctors of fraudulently claiming money for fictitious jabs !!Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Not sure of the term but she’s just a mere worker in the DWP. Not supervisor or manager. She’s on about 19k a year full time. Little more than minimum wage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elwood Blues
It's been estimated that the restrictions, oops soory "protection" put in place by the Welsh government of late cost hospitality businesses an Average of £16,000.00 each, not to mention the loss of income for employees.
Interesting to see that in response to the damage caused to hospitality businesses since 26 Dec Mr Drakeford said that the harm had not been caused by the Welsh government's actions but by the dreadful curse of Covid. His government's actions were clearly in no way responsible then. I'm glad he cleared that up? I feel better about it now!
Can we assume that it is also directly responsible for the derelict state of the NHS in Wales?
I just posted the wrong week, but the week posted was accurate , if it’s slightly out ,in respect of weeks 49 to week 2 so what ? It’s information that’s in the public domain that I can be corrected on, which I don’t mind. I was actually on about so thing else, so I don’t really care how many boosters have been administered.
I noticed that too. Unhinged.Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
:hehe: And I thought that I'm the only idiot that does this! :thumbup: :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Slightly out ? !! It is 11 MILLION booster jabs out for goodness sake. Plus your original post clearly states that the booster roll out is disappointing and that England has cancelled its booster programme which is totally factually incorrect. You also insinuated that my figure was fictitious because the Government were deliberately fiddling the figures, even though my figure was from the same data you were using, only my figure was up to date.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
How would you feel if you were banned from seeing your disabled family member for 4 weeks based on spurious reasons ? Must be a much better man than meQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
Fair enough , thought it was 19 m apologies
Lots of us idiots about! :thumbup::hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
(Can't put a tin in the recycling bin until it is clean and shiny!)
My mother used to wash the empty milk bottles before she put them out out, which were then collected and taken to a milk bottling plant which my father went to work to manage every day, where the bottles were then washed in a huge machine with incredibly high temperatures and water jets to make them sterile for the next load of milk.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Madness, but my mother wouldn't let it be seen that there were dirty milk bottles on our front step. :hehe:
Seems some things from your parents never rub off!!
Surprised by this survey going by what I read about Drakeford on here, but maybe it’s just a loud minority at work? I think he and the Welsh Government cocked up with their short “firebreak” lockdown in November 2020 and their decision to close sports grounds has, not surprisingly, been seen to be unjustified, but, overall, I’d put myself in the 60 per cent in the poll.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...wales-22791642
how polls work as explained by Sir Humpfrey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahgjEjJkZks
Or you and the others on here always having a go at Drakeford represent less than a fifth of the Welsh population?Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
I would be in the 31%. :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Im not suprised at all.
The UK Government is so discredited and the PM a laughing stock no wonder Wales comes out on top.
I dont think its an endorsement of them its just the UK govt and Tory party led by a laughing stock is so unpopular.
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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
They must have done that survey outside the Labour Party headquarters.
I don’t know anyone who agreed with his latest covid policies
Exactly. This survey (of just 1,000 people, apparently) means next to nothing in real terms. It is just as you say - another small vote of no confidence in Boris Johnson and his cast of idiots rather than an endorsement of Drakeford and Co.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Your opinion of me doesn't alter the fact that that is how polls work though does it? Not that your opinion is worth anything in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
There is also the angle of those who disagree with the results of polls who try then to discredit them. Ultimately we never really know and everyone still believes their opinion to be correct.
A sample size of 1,000 is sufficient for polling. They aren't there to say "exactly this amount of people think this", they're just an indicator "60% of our sample think this, its probably about that nationwide"Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I believe the polls. I think Wales is an inherently small c conservative place and is happy being told what to do more so than other parts of the UK.
We are also older, less healthy so perhaps inevitably more cautious on any health issues, not to say less concerned about nightclubs.
As for Wales, I want a timescale to get out of this asap now and emailed my AM about it this afternoon.
Let us be free now FFS Drakey!
Tories also seem to always do better than polls suggest.
A lot just dont like admitting they are Tories.
So, for the avoidance of doubt, you are happy for a total end to any restrictions, regardless of who is affected?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
97% of the population of Wales now have antibodies against Covid either because they have been infected or been vaccinated or both. What else can be done? Let's get life back to normal please Mr DrakefordQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
What else can be done? A common sense approach that doesn't result in huge spikes in Covid cases again would be fine with me. People will be complaining if we go back to normal, lots become ill, even if not to the extent of the first and second waves, and they can't get trains and buses, doctors or hospital appointments, because workers are too ill to work. That is probably the biggest issue to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by lisvaneblue
Exactly….Quote:
Originally Posted by lisvaneblue