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Re: Q.P.R. v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
I’d like to dedicate that win to Nick “AlwaysAway” he would have loved that, he loved us winning in London more than elsewhere.
That one’s for you mate.
He was a Barry boy right? What was his name?
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
So you don't agree with what I said then about NG, Doris.
As it happens I do Dave. See I'm not afraid to agree, you should try it sometime.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
In the last three games he was one of our best players. Selective memory loss ?
Oh dear lord!
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Undercoverinwurzelland
:thumbup: thanks.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Re: Q.P.R. v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
I’d like to dedicate that win to Nick “AlwaysAway” he would have loved that, he loved us winning in London more than elsewhere.
That one’s for you mate.
Well said Des, great bloke Nick and massive City fan RIP Nick
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Re: Q.P.R. v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
City123
He's a hero but his decision making is dreadful
His brain may have been telling him to knock the ball to Colwill, but his feet just wouldn't allow it. I don't think that we should be to critical of Ikpeazu, he means well.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
I had to go and have a cup of tea in added on time, I couldn't bear the stress!!!
Good to see the youngsters having such a positive effect again, and scoring goals!!!
Someone I know went to the lav on 69 minutes......and came back on 74.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Is this turning into a positive season for Cardiff City with a number of youngsters breaking through?
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Wonderful turn around .
I feel so hopeful for the future .
Let's see an over 20k crowd Saturday, and a sell out for the Jacks.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Undercoverinwurzelland
lovely strength and vision for the pass from Colwill for the early Hugill chance.
in hindsight Ng was a little unfortunate for their goal, it was an awkward ball to deal with and it could easily have fallen to one of the several Cardiff players around, but instead it found the only QPR player.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Great day out, it was more than 90 minutes in the middle of it. One point though, how does that ground pass every safety measure? It’s downright dangerous, from peering and leaning perilously to see the corner flags to the corridor concourse. It’s a disaster waiting to happen and has been for years.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
He was a Barry boy right? What was his name?
No Nick lived in Jersey and travelled to every away game (almost).
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Is DML is implying that Morison is a better manager than McCarthy or Harris. Disrespectful!
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Re: Q.P.R. v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
He was a Barry boy right? What was his name?
Nick Walker
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Michael Morris
So was it a foul by Davies with the first goal? I honestly can’t make my mind up, bit surprised it wasn’t given - thought he was among the best refs I’ve seen at our games this season.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
So was it a foul by Davies with the first goal? I honestly can’t make my mind up, bit surprised it wasn’t given - thought he was among the best refs I’ve seen at our games this season.
They said that on Quest last night but I just felt the defender wasn't very strong against one of our smallest attackers.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Some QPR fans not impressed with the ref, especially the ‘play on’ for Davies’ goal but there was also criticism for the weak defender being bullied by ‘the little scrote’ who’d came on as sub. In fact our changes were admired on their messageboard, bemoaning their lack of pace while our subs upped the ante considerably. Also a lot of embarrassed criticism of some of their fans giving it the ‘ole, ole’ during a thirty pass move that ended up with a pass back to Marshall. Their ‘impressive’ possession stats were widely decried as well, one poster suggesting that their defenders should take up walking football if they want to slowly exchange passes in their own half causing no distress to the opposition. Mind you the general opinion on their boards were that we crap, as did the messageboards of Derby, Barnsley, Coventry, Forest etc........one common denominator there though:hehe:
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
We may be crap but we just beat a team in the play off places (5th in the table) away from home. I'll take that thank you.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
Is DML is implying that Morison is a better manager than McCarthy or Harris. Disrespectful!
I just don't understand why he doesn't support the club more lol
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Gofer Blue
We may be crap but we just beat a team in the play off places (5th in the table) away from home. I'll take that thank you.
Exactly:thumbup:
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Gofer Blue
We may be crap but we just beat a team in the play off places (5th in the table) away from home. I'll take that thank you.
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Exactly:thumbup:
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Michael Morris
Table doesn’t lie, that’s impressive, fair play, and it’s not a 5 match stretch either, just a bit under a quarter of a season really.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Table doesn’t lie, that’s impressive, fair play, and it’s not a 5 match stretch either, just a bit under a quarter of a season really.
It might be worth a look at the average number of points per game of all of the opponents of the sides who have won 19 points or more over the last 10 games:
1 Fulham 1.05
2 Huddersfield 1.16
3 Sheffield Utd 1.32
4 Cardiff City 1.35
5 Middlesbrough 1.29
6 Millwall 1.46
7 Luton Town 1.23
It would suggest we've had a tougher run of fixtures than them all, bar Millwall.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Michael Morris
we've definitely improved, but I think the results have flattered us a bit - it doesn't feel as though we are playing like a top two side.
great to get an away win, but we were second best for a lot of the game. we've had a few games this season that we were a lot more competitive in and left with nothing, so perhaps we've just been due a result like that.
still, hopefully we keep improving, but we aren't there yet
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
we've definitely improved, but I think the results have flattered us a bit - it doesn't feel as though we are playing like a top two side.
great to get an away win, but we were second best for a lot of the game. we've had a few games this season that we were a lot more competitive in and left with nothing, so perhaps we've just been due a result like that.
still, hopefully we keep improving, but we aren't there yet
I wouldn’t say we looked like a top two side for most of the 17/18 season - we did for the first two or three months of that season, but, to put it simplistically, we were a different team once Zohore got that injury in October. He was never the same player again and it was more spirit, a great mind set and momentum which carried us through the last six months of the campaign. Sides going away and winning 7-0 like Fulham have done are very much the exception in the modern day Championship, it’s more likely that more mundane qualities will bring you success because as a rule, the sides are so evenly matched that it’s what’s between the ears which determines how successful you are and this leads to a snowball effect be it positive or negative - Morison deserves credit for changing our mindset pretty quickly.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
I wouldn’t say we looked like a top two side for most of the 17/18 season - we did for the first two or three months of that season, but, to put it simplistically, we were a different team once Zohore got that injury in October. He was never the same player again and it was more spirit, a great mind set and momentum which carried us through the last six months of the campaign. Sides going away and winning 7-0 like Fulham have done are very much the exception in the modern day Championship, it’s more likely that more mundane qualities will bring you success because as a rule, the sides are so evenly matched that it’s what’s between the ears which determines how successful you are and this leads to a snowball effect be it positive or negative - Morison deserves credit for changing our mindset pretty quickly.
yeah that's fair enough, I am mindful of when Mick McCarthy took over and the results dramatically improved, something obviously clicked with the players and we had a great run of results - but, if you looked at the underlying stats, we weren't really any better than we had been under Harris, so a downturn in results was always likely to happen.
in assessing the manager, we should try to look beyond the short term form, and concentrate on the longer term direction, it is difficult to do that though, especially in a division where so many teams are so evenly matched as this one, most teams in the rather large midtable will go on some good runs at some point in the season, it's how to know what is genuine improvement and what is just rolling sixes.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
I'd say that when you have an 'average' squad - which we do - the only things a manager can do is things like workrate, eliminating errors, and getting players to stick to a plan and follow instructions. Do we all watch the Sky Championship highlights on a Saturday evening/Sunday morning ? If like me you do, you'll see the gulf in pace, movement,passing, between us and even those a few places above. In the end it's all about players - better players make a better side, providing the manager gets the best out of them. We're doing well, competing against all and sundry, but over 46 games starting next season we'll need 4, maybe 5 players who are better that we've got now. [IMHO !]
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
I'd say that when you have an 'average' squad - which we do - the only things a manager can do is things like workrate, eliminating errors, and getting players to stick to a plan and follow instructions. Do we all watch the Sky Championship highlights on a Saturday evening/Sunday morning ? If like me you do, you'll see the gulf in pace, movement,passing, between us and even those a few places above. In the end it's all about players - better players make a better side, providing the manager gets the best out of them. We're doing well, competing against all and sundry, but over 46 games starting next season we'll need 4, maybe 5 players who are better that we've got now. [IMHO !]
The difference in pace, movement and passing you refer to seems to be there every week, but maybe we’re preconditioned to a degree by instinctively seizing upon the examples of this during games and thinking it is typical? I can’t say whether that is true of you, but I think it is of me to a degree. Clearly we’re not as bad as we can look when those big gulfs are most evident and I’d also say that in those highlights shows you tend to see what a side does best or worst and little of the mundane stuff in between which I think, at this level in particular, is how things tend to be most of the time.
In saying all of that, I hope steps are taken in the summer to try to address those aspects you highlight because this season, especially the way it started, should be seen as a warning sign that things couldn’t continue with more of the Warnock/McCarthy way of playing the game.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
I wouldn’t say we looked like a top two side for most of the 17/18 season - we did for the first two or three months of that season, but, to put it simplistically, we were a different team once Zohore got that injury in October. He was never the same player again and it was more spirit, a great mind set and momentum which carried us through the last six months of the campaign. Sides going away and winning 7-0 like Fulham have done are very much the exception in the modern day Championship, it’s more likely that more mundane qualities will bring you success because as a rule, the sides are so evenly matched that it’s what’s between the ears which determines how successful you are and this leads to a snowball effect be it positive or negative - Morison deserves credit for changing our mindset pretty quickly.
That sunny afternoon beating Villa at the start of 17/18 was/is the best match I've seen us play in recent times followed by an evening match against Leeds. The football and the crowds/atmosphere were excellent. It should be possible to re-create that with the youth core and some canny signings in the summer. I hope we become faster at everything we do. I'd also like to see us with at least 50:50 possession at home. I don't think we should be spending most of our time watching the visitors with the ball.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
The difference in pace, movement and passing you refer to seems to be there every week, but maybe we’re preconditioned to a degree by instinctively seizing upon the examples of this during games and thinking it is typical? I can’t say whether that is true of you, but I think it is of me to a degree. Clearly we’re not as bad as we can look when those big gulfs are most evident and I’d also say that in those highlights shows you tend to see what a side does best or worst and little of the mundane stuff in between which I think, at this level in particular, is how things tend to be most of the time.
In saying all of that, I hope steps are taken in the summer to try to address those aspects you highlight because this season, especially the way it started, should be seen as a warning sign that things couldn’t continue with more of the Warnock/McCarthy way of playing the game.
It's the metaphorical 'change of direction' all right. Nobody could accuse Warnock's promotion side of playing the prettiest football in the division, but when you look back at highlights it's obvious that they were quite capable of playing it, but just concentrated on getting into attacking situations with the fewest passes - probably the opposite of QPR [ole, ole]. Judging by this last transfer window, we hopefully will bring in some genuinely decent players.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
How did you work that out? Dieu you're bloody clever :hehe:
It was a pointless reply to a pointless point being made :thumbup:
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
bluebirds17
Ikpeazu has to give that to Colwill.
Will forever be my point with him.
Yes he is going to be strong and score goals bit for ****ing **** sake he has GOT to start passing the ball.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Citizen's Nephew
That sunny afternoon beating Villa at the start of 17/18 was/is the best match I've seen us play in recent times followed by an evening match against Leeds. The football and the crowds/atmosphere were excellent. It should be possible to re-create that with the youth core and some canny signings in the summer. I hope we become faster at everything we do. I'd also like to see us with at least 50:50 possession at home. I don't think we should be spending most of our time watching the visitors with the ball.
Isn't that what we did against Villa and Leeds though, and most teams that season? We had 35% possession against Villa and 40% against Leeds (even though they played the second half with ten men). They are two of your favourite games and you want us to recreate them while criticising Morison relentlessly for having 'rubbish possession stats' and wanting us to have at least 50% possession at home. Sunderland finished bottom in the season you're talking about and even they did the possession double over us.
You asked for people on here to wait until the end of the season before passing any judgement on Morison and, even though you seem unwilling to take your own advice, I think that's fair enough. Recent results have been good but there's plenty of room for improvement in certain areas, the next couple of months should give us an idea of the direction he's looking to take us in.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Loramski
Isn't that what we did against Villa and Leeds though, and most teams that season? We had 35% possession against Villa and 40% against Leeds (even though they played the second half with ten men). They are two of your favourite games and you want us to recreate them while criticising Morison relentlessly for having 'rubbish possession stats' and wanting us to have at least 50% possession at home. Sunderland finished bottom in the season you're talking about and even they did the possession double over us.
You asked for people on here to wait until the end of the season before passing any judgement on Morison and, even though you seem unwilling to take your own advice, I think that's fair enough. Recent results have been good but there's plenty of room for improvement in certain areas, the next couple of months should give us an idea of the direction he's looking to take us in.
*slow claps*
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Loramski
Isn't that what we did against Villa and Leeds though, and most teams that season? We had 35% possession against Villa and 40% against Leeds (even though they played the second half with ten men). They are two of your favourite games and you want us to recreate them while criticising Morison relentlessly for having 'rubbish possession stats' and wanting us to have at least 50% possession at home. Sunderland finished bottom in the season you're talking about and even they did the possession double over us.
You asked for people on here to wait until the end of the season before passing any judgement on Morison and, even though you seem unwilling to take your own advice, I think that's fair enough. Recent results have been good but there's plenty of room for improvement in certain areas, the next couple of months should give us an idea of the direction he's looking to take us in.
I think you're taking this stuff way too seriously. I think it's a bit scary that you've even bothered to check the possession stats for those games let alone the season on the basis of a random comment from a complete stranger. I don't even take myself this seriously. I read my posts sometimes and have absolutely no memory of ever writing them. I just looked and I made that post at 10:49 yesterday and you comment on it about 14 hours later. Man, this is crazy sh*t.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Citizen's Nephew
I think you're taking this stuff way too seriously. I think it's a bit scary that you've even bothered to check the possession stats for those games let alone the season on the basis of a random comment from a complete stranger. I don't even take myself this seriously. I read my posts sometimes and have absolutely no memory of ever writing them. I just looked and I made that post at 10:49 yesterday and you comment on it about 14 hours later. Man, this is crazy sh*t.
Having facts isn't scary. Its normal.
If you don't have a response to his well written post hist leave it there, don't put a man down and attempt to belittle him for being correct.
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Re: FT: Q.P.R. 1 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
Having facts isn't scary. Its normal.
If you don't have a response to his well written post hist leave it there, don't put a man down and attempt to belittle him for being correct.
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