England’s first ever red warning for extreme heat on Monday and Tuesday.

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But its not just the BBC though is it?

What do you hear/see when I say the below?

99% of scientists, including NASA say climate change is man made and is going to have devastating consequences to us.

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99% can you back that up with evidence?

https://simonleewx.com/2020/04/19/we...lly-exclusive/

We have had a few heatwaves in the past , where temperatures were up close to 39 degrees. See below ..

Wasn't 96 hot for months ??

https://simonleewx.com/2018/07/18/heatwave-summers-theres-more-than-1976-1995/

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99% can you back that up with evidence?

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Yeah

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...used-by-humans

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1...48-9326/ac2966

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

Here's an interesting link, the UK public think its more like 65% of scientists think its man made, this shows once again that on average the British public are thick as shit.

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/public-hu...climate-change

I mean, this is really really basic fact. There isn't a debate anymore, it is happening and it is caused by man.

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https://simonleewx.com/2020/04/19/we...lly-exclusive/

We have had a few heatwaves in the past , where temperatures were up close to 39 degrees. See below ..

Wasn't 96 hot for months ??

https://simonleewx.com/2018/07/18/he...han-1976-1995/

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I'm not saying it hasn't been hotter, to be honest I don't have a clue about 1976, but the trends that are occurring world wide with alarming frequently should be extreme cause for concern.

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why there is a correlation between education levels and believing climate change is caused by man.

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Yeah

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...used-by-humans

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1...48-9326/ac2966

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

Here's an interesting link, the UK public think its more like 65% of scientists think its man made, this shows once again that on average the British public are thick as shit.

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/public-hu...climate-change

I mean, this is really really basic fact. There isn't a debate anymore, it is happening and it is caused by man.

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Not for the first time The Guardian headline is misleading, it's 99% of peer reviewed papers not 99% of scientists per se. A peer reviewed paper requires financial backing. So who is funding that? What agenda do they have? Follow the money..
I'm into environmentalism & reducing pollution anyway, so it's probably a good thing to stop burning coal. Not 100% sold on man made climate change though.

Anyway, Good to see you haven't put me on ignore Doucas!

I'd love for any of the climate change sceptics on here to detail what they think is the 'case' for man made climate change and why they don't agree with it.

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Not for the first time The Guardian headline is misleading, it's 99% of peer reviewed papers not 99% of scientists per se. A peer reviewed paper requires financial backing. So who is funding that? What agenda do they have? Follow the money..
I'm into environmentalism & reducing pollution anyway, so it's probably a good thing to stop burning coal. Not 100% sold on man made climate change though.

Anyway, Good to see you haven't put me on ignore Doucas!

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So if you include scientists who produce work that has not been verified by anyone else, the number is lower than 99%?


And yes, I'd be interested to know who you think is funding almost every single peer review - it's not oil companies, it's not gas companies, it's not governments, as it's not in their best interests. Where did you end up when you followed the money?

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But its not just the BBC though is it?

What do you hear/see when I say the below?

99% of scientists, including NASA say climate change is man made and is going to have devastating consequences to us.

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Forgive me for saying, but you do tend to use dramatic phraseology. Yesterday you were 'terrified' of my opinions. Today we're going to have 'devastating consequences..! You don't work for the BBC, do you ?

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Forgive me for saying, but you do tend to use dramatic phraseology. Yesterday you were 'terrified' of my opinions. Today we're going to have 'devastating consequences..! You don't work for the BBC, do you ?

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How to tell him you've lost the argument without telling him you've lost the argument

Everything nowadays seems to be even more over the top than usual in the media. Scaremongering is rife.

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Woof woof !!

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My kinda language! 🤣🤙

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Everything nowadays seems to be even more over the top than usual in the media. Scaremongering is rife.

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It’s not the media issuing warnings. It’s the Met Office, the UKHSA and the government.

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I'm not a fruitcake. Anyway, enjoy the documentary - if it's the BBC it must be true and factual.

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Are you going to watch it? I hope so as I’d be interested to hear the fruitcake perspective, especially given the documentary evidence that will apparently be presented.

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Forgive me for saying, but you do tend to use dramatic phraseology.

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This is kind of ironic given your dramatic proclamations during the early stages of the pandemic.

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It’s not the media issuing warnings. It’s the Met Office, the UKHSA and the government.

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Most argumentative man on the planet.

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Most argumentative man on the planet.

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Bloody facts. Always getting in the way.

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Forgive me for saying, but you do tend to use dramatic phraseology. Yesterday you were 'terrified' of my opinions. Today we're going to have 'devastating consequences..! You don't work for the BBC, do you ?

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Don't deflect, answer the question.

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Don't deflect, answer the question.

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What question ?

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Are you going to watch it? I hope so as I’d be interested to hear the fruitcake perspective, especially given the documentary evidence that will apparently be presented.

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There was a BBC documentary the other night regarding the SAS with'a lot of evidence', all completely denied afterwards by the relevant authorities. You really don't have to believe and accept everything you're told or watch.

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Everything nowadays seems to be even more over the top than usual in the media. Scaremongering is rife.

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Maybe because we're consuming news and information 24/7, whereas in 1976 we may have seen 1 news bulletin a day and read the morning or evening paper.

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There was a BBC documentary the other night regarding the SAS with'a lot of evidence', all completely denied afterwards by the relevant authorities. You really don't have to believe and accept everything you're told or watch.

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I’m going to take a wild guess here, but is it possible that you don’t believe anything you’re told or you watch that doesn’t fit the beliefs you already harbour?

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I’m going to take a wild guess here, but is it possible that you don’t believe anything you’re told or you watch that doesn’t fit the beliefs you already harbour?

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But, but, but is was there SAS it must be true :hehe:

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According to the UK Health Security Agency there were 1600 excess deaths as a direct consequence of last summer's heat wave - with temperatures a lot below what is expected in the next week. Saying people will die at 40 degrees is a near certainty. There will have been hundreds of heat-related deaths in the UK already this month.

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" near certainty " Thank you Jon.

Just curious but am I more likely to die driving at 20mph in 40 degree heat, or driving at 30mph when it's 30 degrees?

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Just curious but am I more likely to die driving at 20mph in 40 degree heat, or driving at 30mph when it's 30 degrees?

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😂😂

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Just curious but am I more likely to die driving at 20mph in 40 degree heat, or driving at 30mph when it's 30 degrees?

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That depends on whether or not you have had a Covid booster!

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Just curious but am I more likely to die driving at 20mph in 40 degree heat, or driving at 30mph when it's 30 degrees?

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Depends where the sun is shining

Has anyone else noticed that the higher the temperature but lower the driving speed it really doesn't take that long to fill a bath with batshit anymore?

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Because our education system has been over taken with marxists. Education these days is about teaching marxist ideology and not independent, critical thinking.

The earth has been a lot hotter than it is today.

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Not managed to read the rest of the thread but this has to be the stupidest comment in the whole thing.

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You still can’t drink water when driving though in whatever heat, you’ll get done fir driving without due care and attention. You can still pick your nose though if you like…..

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You still can’t drink water when driving though in whatever heat, you’ll get done fir driving without due care and attention. You can still pick your nose though if you like…..

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Phew, that’s my favourite past time so over the moon about that.

For those of you that have been affected by (in my opinion) the scaremongering in the media it looks like, for Wales, tonight will be a slightly warmer one, tomorrow a really uncomfortable night for everyone and then Tuesday evening will be cool once the thunderstorms hit.

More a heat nod of the head that a wave.

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Not managed to read the rest of the thread but this has to be the stupidest comment in the whole thing.

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"Independent, critical thinking" has taken on a new meaning, quite different to what it used to mean, in recent years.

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Phew, that’s my favourite past time so over the moon about that.

For those of you that have been affected by (in my opinion) the scaremongering in the media it looks like, for Wales, tonight will be a slightly warmer one, tomorrow a really uncomfortable night for everyone and then Tuesday evening will be cool once the thunderstorms hit.

More a heat nod of the head that a wave.

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It's not the media though is it, it's the vast vast majority of scientists.

I'll never understand people with no background in science think they know better than NASA, it's incredible.

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It's not the media though is it, it's the vast vast majority of scientists.

I'll never understand people with no background in science think they know better than NASA, it's incredible.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2653822

Soon gets back to normal …. :hehe:

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2653822

Soon gets back to normal …. :hehe:

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Was 40 ever forecast for Cardiff?

39 is still Mondays forecast for London

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I’m going to take a wild guess here, but is it possible that you don’t believe anything you’re told or you watch that doesn’t fit the beliefs you already harbour?

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Yes, you're right, a wild, wild guess. Just like a lot of what we're told to believe.

I don't get the resistance to these weather warnings. There are thousands of people out there who have serious underlying health problems, cardiovascular, lung disease etc. This extreme heat can kill them, as their bodies do not have the same abilities to regulate heat in the same way a healthy persons body can. It's not difficult. Yes, the news is full of it for a week or so, there is an element of overkill, and that reaction does seem to piss off our more right leaning members, who seem to make comparisons to their younger days, when if it was ridiculously hot, people just got on with it, and it never did them any harm. Why can't people just accept that extreme weather conditions can lead to people getting unwell, especially if they have underlying problems.

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Yes, you're right, a wild, wild guess. Just like a lot of what we're told to believe.

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I wish I was a liberated, free thinker like you. If I was, I could have believed Covid-19 was no worse than the average dose of flu, football could never be played closed doors, all of the professional clubs would go bust by Christmas 2020, everyone in the UK except for public sector workers would be out of a job by the beginning of 2021 and global warming is a myth.

:thumbup:

For those saying 'but but 1976'

https://twitter.com/StephenFeberLtd/...YW1DE7lkQ&s=19

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I wish I was a liberated, free thinker like you. If I was, I could have believed Covid-19 was no worse than the average dose of flu, football could never be played closed doors, all of the professional clubs would go bust by Christmas 2020, everyone in the UK except for public sector workers would be out of a job by the beginning of 2021 and global warming is a myth.

:thumbup:

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Isn't it crazy how people seem to trot out this kind of bullshit, yet are found to be completely wrong and then still come back for more, like nothing happened!