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Id rather stay up with long ball than go down without it
the game has moved on, better teams know how to combat the long ball, not to mention its dull as hell and not many customers like itQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Just been to have a look at some stats. Four games at random - Villa and Wolves at the start and the end of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
Chipped (high) passes: 12.2% and 13% at the start of the season, 19.2% and 20.2% at the end of the season. This is mirrored by having nearly 23% of all passes at the end of the season made by the head, up from 12% from both games earlier in the season.
In both earlier games we were around 73% for balls played forward. In the fixtures at the end we were between 77%-79%. On both occasions our pass success rate was better in the earlier fixtures than the later ones.
But, according to Sludge and his perfect recall, we played exactly the same way.....
I wonder how many Middlesbrough fans would trade Michael Carrick for Neil Warnock?
Weve missed out again. Darren Ferguson is back in work.......... at Peterborough. FFS. Thats his 4th time there.
Anyone who thinks Warnock returning to Cardiff City is a realistic possibility should consider what Vincent Tan told the press back in November: "Neil Warnock did a good job taking us up, but then he creates a bad side and buys the wrong players. Murphy cost £11m, hardly scored any goals, then left on a free transfer. He was never worth that money. I was conned."
He may not be anywhere near being back in the ccfc hotseat but we need a manager like warnock who can assess what we have and get the team organisedQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
It might not work but what we have in place certainly isn't cutting the mustard
That's a spaghetti of nonsenseQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
You're a stubborn old sod, I'll give you that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
The superstars Neil Warnock brought into the City squad during the summer of 2019 in his bid to take the club back to the Premier League:
Joe Day (free)
Aden Flint (£4 million)
Robert Glatzel (£5.5 million)
Curtis Nelson (free)
Marlon Pack (undisclosed)
Will Vaulks (£2.1 million)
Gavin Whyte (undisclosed fee reported to be seven figures)
Brilliant work. The man's a genius.
Flint and Pack were good valueQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
The frees were free
Flint was worth £4m? How much did we get for him when we sold him?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Good defender for usQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
The knives come out for warnock but loads of wages were spent by dave Jones
Which got us absolutely nowhere
I saw Robbie Fowler scoffing a kebab after a skinful when he was supposed to be getting fit to play
Why warnock gets the finger all the time is odd
No we didn’t, v Leeds playing it about:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
https://youtu.be/opvbvDmyT8o
Brentford.... interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Who will be the first to link Dean Smith to Mark Hudson's job?
Yep. That's not long ball football. Great stuff. Our attack could never manage anything like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
He signed Romaine Sawyers on a free too.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Glatzel was sold at a loss of over £4 million, Pack cost about £750k I believe and Whyte around £2 million. I suppose you might make a case for Pack not being a dreadful signing given the fee involved and Glatzel has shown at Hamburg that his fee wasn’t extortionate, but the only one I’d argue might be called a good signing was Nelson who was more like a Bamba/Hoilett type.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Did you read Keith’s post on him?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
That Leeds game was the last time we saw football like that from the 17/18 team, but, for the first couple of months (about twenty five per cent of the season), they did play some good stuff - in basic terms, it lasted until Zohore’s inspired spell ended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
With the state our club is in off the field, VT will have to throw Warnock a shed load of cash for him to come back, because he ain't coming back for the love of the club.or my kind of folk bullshit.
Quite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whisperer
He can name his price, because of the mess that the club has created.
Not going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
VT clearly feels he had his pockets picked while Warnock was here, and I can't see him letting that go.
The only chance is if Mehmet can talk VT into it, but Mehmet should be out the door himself as far as I'm concerned.
Surely he's had a big part in all these shitty managerial appointments?
A mess that he’d played a part in, he’d have a cheek to ask for any payment should he return……… no chance of that though, he’ll see us as another bunch of clueless financial mugs…..same as his first time here really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
:thumbup: made a career out or itQuote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
He'll take another whack no doubt, but I think his ego loves the adulation when he gets it right and he is popular.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whisperer
Neil Warnock bought the following players:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
Madine - 6m - contract paid up
Bacuna - 3.5m - released
Danny Ward - 1.7m - released
Tomlin - 1.5m - released
Omar Bogle - 700k - released
Murphy - 10m - released
Reid - 10m - sold for 10m, well done Neil
Vaulks - 2m - released
Pack - 2m - released
Flint - 5m - released
Whyte - 2m - still here, 1 goal.
Glatzel 5.5m - sold for 500k
Isaac Vassell - 3m - released
This mess is entirely because of Warnock's ineptitude in the transfer market. His hits were Etheridge, NML, Hoilett, Smithies and Bamba. We made 500k from the sale of those 5. I'm a Warnock fan but that's 50m pissed up the wall there.
Already started it with the Portsmouth job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whisperer
A club he has always wanted to manage, always admired the fans down this way, my kind of people, couldnt get instructions onto the pitch as an away manager because crowd behind dugout is so loud,etc.etc *insert more bullshit* etc etc
:hehe: you know some people are just lapping that bullshit up as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Indeed :hehe: That clown who rings a bell, the Pompey Sludge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Wow lock the cheque book up if he does come!
If you open your window you can hear the sound of tans head explodingQuote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Desperate fans want desperate manager
If we do get a back to basics manager in then even if he gets a few results .....which is what we are desperate for ......the old heads on here will complain we are not passing the ball enough
God help us
Some awful signings, some which we at least used before releasing. Not good reading though. Some make the Sala fee and situation look silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Then the whole agent issues etc.
Some balance though, promotion was worth £170m to the club (no way we do that without him) and there's a transfer committee, as with Mackay and Cornelius it's not just him signing off on these alone.
At least if he did come back there's no budget.
Why would he anyway though? I get the feeling we have approached him a couple of times since he left and we are now a far worse sell.
Correct - we are desperate!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad
Don't you realise that?
Guess we couldn’t afford to blow that much as it was a crucial time when we really needed to just stay up, to think we almost did it is remarkable really….I just think he’s one of those managers that can put a decent championship or league 1 side together for peanuts but struggles any higher. Was listening to TS the other day talking about Brighton, can’t recall the exact details but the team that beat Everton cost less than one Everton player and less than Warnock spent with us….Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Having taken us up previously on an absolute shoestring - a very balanced argument. :facepalm::wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Promotion was worth £170m which we completely failed to make any use of whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trigger
We may as well not have bothered for all the long term good it has done. That was our opportunity to get ourselved firmly embedded as a top championship club at least and we ****ed it.
100% not true that he's being lined up according to Hudson today.