FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 HUDDERSFIELD TOWN: Match thread

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Originally Posted by LA Bluebird

Would be nice to see the local media ask Lamouchi what his strategy was when it came to picking the team for today, but that might expect some level of competency that isn't reasonable.

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On the beach, knackered after Thursday

Thoroughly deserved win. Hope they can survive. I fear for City next season.

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

That shot is exactly why.

I can’t remember when he last took the right option

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Even so either is light years ahead of Ojo in ability so I'm still perplexed.

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

That shot is exactly why.

I can’t remember when he last took the right option

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...perhaps the one where the keeper made a great save??

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Even so either is light years ahead of Ojo in ability so I'm still perplexed.

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Yeah, Ojo doesn't have the skill or the desire to get himself in that position. Also completely ignored the time before when he nearly scored a wonder goal from the same area or the time 10 minutes earlier when Philogene did exactly the same thing. But it's nothing new for some of the fans on this board to like to put our own young Welsh players down, it's bizarre.

It was a case of "after the Lord Mayor's show" which, in hindsight, should come to no-ones surprise. Pissing down and already safe so the match means nothing and then 3 players injure themselves (Etete, Kipre and Ralls) the match was literally useless to use.

Only good thing to come from it is if Lamouchi does stay then he's seen which players can and can't be trusted. Ojo, Simpson and a few others could be replaced by youngsters from the youth team and nothing of value would be lost.

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Originally Posted by LA Bluebird

Yeah, Ojo doesn't have the skill or the desire to get himself in that position. Also completely ignored the time before when he nearly scored a wonder goal from the same area or the time 10 minutes earlier when Philogene did exactly the same thing. But it's nothing new for some of the fans on this board to like to put our own young Welsh players down, it's bizarre.

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I'm really hoping both Colwill and Davies have better treatment from whomever is our manager next season.

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Originally Posted by Maurice Swan

...perhaps the one where the keeper made a great save??

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And then when everyone was in the box he took it and blasted it to nowhere when there was no cover behind.

I find him so frustrating despite his talent

He’s not Ronaldo

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

And then when everyone was in the box he took it and blasted it to nowhere when there was no cover behind.

I find him so frustrating despite his talent

He’s not Ronaldo

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Probably his only mistake all game and that's what you decide to focus on, I know you don't rate him but come on. He played well and only focusing on what he did wrong (when there were plenty of others who were shit) is bizarre.

Any pro says decision making comes with experience so it's hardly a shock that a guy who never gets a run of games doesn't have perfect dexision making

Absolutely amazing that after watching the starting eleven (apart from Etete) and Kaba produce that go through the motions garbage, we seem to be having yet another Colwill debate.

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

And then when everyone was in the box he took it and blasted it to nowhere when there was no cover behind.

I find him so frustrating despite his talent

He’s not Ronaldo

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So what was your view when Philogene did exactly the same thing?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Absolutely amazing that after watching the starting eleven (apart from Etete) and Kaba produce that go through the motions garbage, we seem to be having yet another Colwill debate.

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Colwill was a bright spot in utter abysmalness (is that a word? 🤣)

As said above we need a manager who can get the best out of the likes of Colwill and Davies.

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

I wus there!!!!

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Me too - right behind the goal to see Derek Hogg's 2 goals :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by LA Bluebird

So what was your view when Philogene did exactly the same thing?

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Philogene is levels above Colwill

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Originally Posted by City123

Probably his only mistake all game and that's what you decide to focus on, I know you don't rate him but come on. He played well and only focusing on what he did wrong (when there were plenty of others who were shit) is bizarre.

Any pro says decision making comes with experience so it's hardly a shock that a guy who never gets a run of games doesn't have perfect dexision making

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He’s always done that

He goes for the Hollywood pass or the shot to nothing and people go wild because of the once in a blue moon it comes off?

What would Pep say if one of his players did that in stoppage time?

He gets a free pass because he’s a Welsh homegrown

Anyway I do think he should start in front of Ojo who’s awful, but the whole squad worries me for next season

Manager, coaching, tactics are not up to scratch. You can blame the players as much as you like but the buck stops with the manager. We need a thorough overall and find a system/ strategy for the long term. This Club isn’t a political party with short term fixes, or is it at this time?

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

He’s always done that

He goes for the Hollywood pass or the shot to nothing and people go wild because of the once in a blue moon it comes off?

What would Pep say if one of his players did that in stoppage time?

He gets a free pass because he’s a Welsh homegrown

Anyway I do think he should start in front of Ojo who’s awful, but the whole squad worries me for next season

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Good post!

Well that was a real season ticket seller. 2 wins in 15 home games. If they are capable of so many abysmal performances at home, especially of late, can we have any faith that this manager is the answer ?

I just woke up. 10:25am! I haven't slept that late in years. However, I was up at 4:30am for about 30 minutes and up at 7am for the game.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

I just woke up. 10:25am! I haven't slept that late in years. However, I was up at 4:30am for about 30 minutes and up at 7am for the game.

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You lucky barsterd.:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Good post!

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Hold on.

He was only for 20 mins or so and did more than anyone else to trouble Huddersfield. And people pick up on a wayward shot at the end? At least he had the confidence to have a go even if it probably wasn’t the right choice at the time.

To me anyway he looked to be the only player capable of making something happen when he came on.

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Originally Posted by Dave Blue

Well that was a real season ticket seller. 2 wins in 15 home games. If they are capable of so many abysmal performances at home, especially of late, can we have any faith that this manager is the answer ?

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The tactics didn’t work

The line up didn’t work

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

Hold on.

He was only for 20 mins or so and did more than anyone else to trouble Huddersfield. And people pick up on a wayward shot at the end? At least he had the confidence to have a go even if it probably wasn’t the right choice at the time.

To me anyway he looked to be the only player capable of making something happen when he came on.

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I wouldn’t have picked on him if it wasn’t for the usual posts calling him the messiah.

He’s no better or worse than any of the others and I don’t think he warrants a start over our strongest XI

But I also don’t understand leaving Ojo on for 90 mins

Wasn’t people saying Colwill was playing rubbish because his confidence is ‘shot’. You can’t have it both ways.

Let’s not just focus on that it was a comment against people saying we should build a team around him

The long and short of it is we really need to find a replacement for Philogene and Kipre as we don’t have one in the squad who can step up

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

Hold on.

He was only for 20 mins or so and did more than anyone else to trouble Huddersfield. And people pick up on a wayward shot at the end? At least he had the confidence to have a go even if it probably wasn’t the right choice at the time.

To me anyway he looked to be the only player capable of making something happen when he came on.

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I'm not judging him on the Huddersfield game alone. His decision making is poor and he doesn't seem to see the simple, more effective, option.

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Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef

“Cardiff City's problem has never been getting big crowds from time to time ......it’s getting them on a regular basis” This is very true, having seen my first game in 52/53 season. For example City beat Spurs 3-2 on a Saturday night in March 61/62 season when Spurs did the double and there were over 50,000, the following home game against Villa and there were less than 12,000

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Always been our problem

We can get big gates , Cardiff and its catchment area is big

But many seem to be big time match goers

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

You must remember, sludge never talks shit. He is like Mark Drakeford, if he says something that you believe isn't true,
then it's not because he was telling lies or being untruthful it is because you don't have the intelligence to understand what he means.
It's obvious.

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The facts show our support , given how big Cardiff is , for both home and away games isn't very good

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

I wus there!!!!

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And in the small crowd a week later ?

Did everyone else have a cold ?

Try "abyss of despair."

That seems to.be appropriate.

:ayatollah:

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Always been our problem

We can get big gates , Cardiff and its catchment area is big

But many seem to be big time match goers

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That’s simply not true for this season though.

The last four home games has resulted in nearly 25,000 fans per match

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Originally Posted by rich munn

Try "abyss of despair."

That seems to.be appropriate.

:ayatollah:

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Dantes Inferno

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

That’s simply not true for this season though.

The last four home games has resulted in nearly 25,000 fans per match

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A local Derby, a game where nearly 3000 Sunderland fans came and a game where it was half price

Now if we had quite a few games where we had those sort of gates over a season ......then you would be correct

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

A local Derby, a game where nearly 3000 Sunderland fans came and a game where it was half price

Now if we had quite a few games where we had those sort of gates over a season ......then you would be correct

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Irrelevant when you also factor in most clubs aside from ourselves ,Swansea ,Middlesbrough and Sunderland average approximately 1,500 extra away fans per match.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Always been our problem

We can get big gates , Cardiff and its catchment area is big

But many seem to be big time match goers

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Indeed. Some on here deride the big crowds at rugby internationals as merely a mass of people out for an event, rather than a display of devotion to the egg. It's no different with City- we occasionally get big attendances because we have a big catchment, not because we're a big club. I'd suggest there is very little 'football culture' in Cardiff and the club is only significant to a very small minority of people in the city. This is not a new development, its always been the same.

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

I wouldn’t have picked on him if it wasn’t for the usual posts calling him the messiah.

He’s no better or worse than any of the others and I don’t think he warrants a start over our strongest XI

But I also don’t understand leaving Ojo on for 90 mins

Wasn’t people saying Colwill was playing rubbish because his confidence is ‘shot’. You can’t have it both ways.

Let’s not just focus on that it was a comment against people saying we should build a team around him

The long and short of it is we really need to find a replacement for Philogene and Kipre as we don’t have one in the squad who can step up

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"Messiah"? All anyone had said was that he played well!

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

He’s always done that

He goes for the Hollywood pass or the shot to nothing and people go wild because of the once in a blue moon it comes off?

What would Pep say if one of his players did that in stoppage time?

He gets a free pass because he’s a Welsh homegrown

Anyway I do think he should start in front of Ojo who’s awful, but the whole squad worries me for next season

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He certainly doesn't get a free pass, he gets plenty of stick even when he plays well!

I really don't get what your problem is here, one noted exception toward the end most of what he tried came off and helped push us forward. The short free kick was worth a go considering he was in space and the fact Wintle's last two deliveries were shocking suggests we weren't likely to score from a cross into the box. There's been plenty of occasions where Colwill merits criticism, but to single him out just seems odd considering he did well and the shitshow that preceded that late flurry

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Originally Posted by City123

He certainly doesn't get a free pass, he gets plenty of stick even when he plays well!

I really don't get what your problem is here, one noted exception toward the end most of what he tried came off and helped push us forward. The short free kick was worth a go considering he was in space and the fact Wintle's last two deliveries were shocking suggests we weren't likely to score from a cross into the box. There's been plenty of occasions where Colwill merits criticism, but to single him out just seems odd considering he did well and the shitshow that preceded that late flurry

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Criticising Colwill is bonkers today. He was brave , wanted the ball , tried to make things happen , tried to get forward not the easy back pass and almost scored a brilliant goal.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

The facts show our support , given how big Cardiff is , for both home and away games isn't very good

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How many times? We have no top tier history of any significance to the majority of people alive in the City, and an extremely limited history of winning major trophies. Nearly all clubs who have more fans than us, will have at least one or the other. The club to any prospective outsider is famous for one thing and one thing only and that has stuck and will continue to stick for a long time, hardly enticing to the outsider.

A small to medium sized city, with a historically mediocre football club, what on earth do you expect? We do well to get what we do considering the tripe we have served up.

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Originally Posted by D. Advocaat

Indeed. Some on here deride the big crowds at rugby internationals as merely a mass of people out for an event, rather than a display of devotion to the egg. It's no different with City- we occasionally get big attendances because we have a big catchment, not because we're a big club. I'd suggest there is very little 'football culture' in Cardiff and the club is only significant to a very small minority of people in the city. This is not a new development, its always been the same.

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I think people are reluctant to admit this but it's the reality

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

How many times? We have no top tier history of any significance to the majority of people alive in the City, and an extremely limited history of winning major trophies. Nearly all clubs who have more fans than us, will have at least one or the other. The club to any prospective outsider is famous for one thing and one thing only and that has stuck and will continue to stick for a long time, hardly enticing to the outsider.

A small to medium sized city, with a historically mediocre football club, what on earth do you expect? We do well to get what we do considering the tripe we have served up.

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I don't expect anything

It's other people who think we are well supported

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I don't expect anything

It's other people who think we are well supported

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We're pretty well supported for a club with little to no pedigree. We will never pull in major crowds until a significantly long period in the top flight and/or winning trophies.