You've alluded to this a few times now so you are either the right side of the law in how you phrase it or you are in the know 🤔Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninian1962
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You've alluded to this a few times now so you are either the right side of the law in how you phrase it or you are in the know 🤔Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninian1962
IT'S HAPPENING!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
"Neil Warnock, the man who signs players, gives them extra wages and appearance bonuses to make sure they pay him to get in the team or on the bench"Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep
- Jason Puncheon
"The fact he could even talk about training is shocking, he was never there."
- Jason Puncheon
Yes I remember those statements from Puncheon but it feels that this was more specific to his time at Cardiff and I am especially interested in the back story to the signing of the Mckay brothers from a contract point of view as to why they were signed and this all seems intrinsically linked to Sala in the endQuote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Seems really murky?
It's not about naming someone better (and there are hundreds). It's about naming someone Cardiff City are likely to employ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vindec
Vincent Tan has publicly stated he feels he was conned by Warnock, who he says built a 'bad side' and 'bought the wrong players' after promotion to the Premier League. Knowing what we do about the way Tan operates, do you honestly believe there is any chance he would re-employ someone he believes conned him?
[QUOTE=jon1959;5424022]Thanks for that. Always good to get the inside track!
I just hope that revelation wasn't phoned in!
By the way... which 'other message board'? ****? OOCC? or something else?
[Edit: Why does AA MB without a gap default to ****?][/QUOTE
AA's Cardiff City Forum - yes
**** - weird never knew that?
Loads of his ex players on the Undr the Cosh has said Warnock has done this. It would have happened at Cardiff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep
Going into the evening.now and, just as on Monday, there’s nothing been posted up on City’s News Now page all day. There’s always talk about the two teams in the Championship Play Off Final being at a disadvantage because they can’t finalise plans for the new season until three weeks after everyone else - I’m beginning to think we could still be looking for a new manager after the Play Offs have finished, that’d be something I’d have thought impossible when the news we were not appointing Lamouchi broke.
Agree Bob. This delay is silly and given we will be operating solely in the free transfer market, we are already at a disadvantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
We need a manager this week.
Didn’t it take the club absolutely ages to appoint Lamouchi and Hudson before him, or have I just imagined all of this because I’m so jaded by the constant searching for new managers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
I think that at one point last season I couldn’t even remember if we’d appointed anyone or not, or who the manager was, as there was so little news from the club.
Depressing.
City sacked Hudson on 14/01/23 and appointed Lamouchi on 27/01/23.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
The announcement about Lamouchi leaving was made on 17/05/23, so it'll probably be a few days yet before his successor is appointed if previous form is anything to go by.
It will be after the play offs finals
Similar quotes from Rowan Vine re Warnock`s time at QPR. Also when he was at QPR the football authorities were questioning a deal which took Joey Barton from Newcastle to QPR when the fee paid didn`t seem to reconcile with the fee received and the wages being paid seemed over the top. The agent involved in the deal was a certain Willie McKay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep
Other issues, all on the public record ,were transactions NW brokered at Sheff Utd and Crystal Palace through an agency which at the time employed his son. Investigated by the football authorities again.
Were you also aware (also can be found on the record) that another football authority investigation was carried out whilst NW was our manager following complaints from some registered intermediaries about the unusually large number of football transfers he was putting through the agency now employing his son? At one time we had 9 players in the squad from that agency and no other club had more than 4.
There is a restriction in football on clubs signing players from agencies in which they or their senior employees have a close family or business interest. Unfortunately the wording for a breach is a bit woolly so breach penalties are not easy to enforce.
I’m surprised nothing has been announced yet, there haven’t even been any solid rumours surfacing.
I wonder if we’re waiting for a manager to leave a club after the conclusion of the play offs or the final games of another league?
You’d think if we really were looking at Bamba or Morison or anyone else not under contract we’d have heard something already, either a yes or a no.
Thanks for that appreciate the reply as I had no idea as to the detail on this hence my askQuote:
Originally Posted by Ninian1962
Begs the question on how he keeps getting away with it even on a moral bais
Lack of support at Eindhoven ?
He should come to City to see what that really feels like
Tan will have you believe that there are at least 6 really good managers in discussions before finally appointing Bamba who states “we already have a very good squad capable of a top half finish”Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
Bamba will then lose his job around Christmas with City in the relegation 3 about 4 points from safety
We were 'safe' after the Rotherham game on the 27th April, so effectively 3 weeks for either Lamouchi or the club to decide if he was going to be here for next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Maybe the job comes with relatively low remuneration and a job spec that involves not signing anyone of value.
Or ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by John Buchanan
It's a shame that probably the most successful managers in Tan's time have been involved with some out there transfer dealings. There could be any number of reasons why so much was paid for Cornelius but at least two of them would be justifiably sackable offences. NW also has a number of strange signings. I'm waiting for the next manager announcement with a mixture of inevetibality and therefore sad indifference.
We probably don't want to announce until a week before the transfer window ends as we don't have to pay wages until then. None of our managers have any say in transfer dealings anyway that's done by the so called transfer committee. I still think it will be Bamba or Morison as nobody else will want to work under this idiot.
So....we are looking t get in transfers.....on whatever basis....and decide the retained list....without a manager.....
The words "Arse Backwards" springs to mind.
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The manager is part of the Transfer Committee (unless the 'so called Transfer Committee' is something different?).Quote:
Originally Posted by pompey blue
The manager (when we have one) works with the scouting and recruitment team (who are doing a good job - especially with loans and Academy recruitment, and not bad with the First Team given the financial constraints).
The Transfer Committee assesses the proposals put forward by the recruitment team (manager input in both stages).
Then Vincent Tan decides.
I think there's something in that.Quote:
Originally Posted by pompey blue
Hudson was a dead man walking for weeks yet they waited until the last days of the January transfer window before bringing a manager in. They are doing the same now as they will think the less time the manager has with the transfer window open the less money he can ask for for wages.
Whilst Cornelius didn't work out for us, did we not recouped most of the money back? And at least he has gone on to prove he's a very talented footballer, Bacuna on the other hand!Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjoe
When i stared reading your post i though it would be a Racist and a Brexit Gammon, but we can beat them with transfers **** up if you like lol
Most reports at the time claimed (based on club press briefings) that we lost between £5m and £8.5m on the Cornelius signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by OurManFlint II
https://www.theguardian.com/football...f-malky-mackay
And herein lies the problem. One would hope Tan would realise that he doesn't know what's going on and stay out of it. But it seems like his ego gets in the way and he has to have an opinion. And when he doesn't, he just makes one up.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Apparently, Malky went to see David Moyes and their setup at Everton, and he tipped Cornelius.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
I think Cornelius and Sala have frightened Tan to death and made it hard for any future Manager.
That will defo happen if we give it to Bamba, this is not an easy job at all, this is a pivotal moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by DubaiDai
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Originally Posted by life on mars
Half decent yet not in with a sniff of any other jobs. Applied for Oxford and rejected.
A transfer committee and then the owner deciding is not a bad thing. Players have greater longevity than managers and coaches and why shouldn't the bloke who is investing millions into the club have a say about squad size and question whether or not we need yet another right back when we can't score goals (for example). I'd qualify this by saying this is not a defence of Tan just owners of a football club. Billionaires don't become so by winning the lottery and the level of corruption in football is ginormous.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
The problem is that we have no continuity of style or ethos running through the club and no director of football/recruitment with any semi-permanence.
I also don't get the Academy signings. We seem to sign 3-4 rejects (aged 19-21) for similar status clubs every year that prove to be a total waste of time. Denham is the only one who is offering to be a long term player (and he came from Man Utd with some pedigree). Benjamin and Antwi were tidy players, but are never going to be 1st teamers. These two are nowhere near the same level of King and Denham. Conte and Leahy this season blocked the pathway for Caleb Hughes, one of the most talented kids to come out of the U18's over recent years. He did have some injuries, but when fit he didn't see much game time.
Ouch!Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Although i'd take some of those quotes with a pinch of salt given the need to throw Malky under the bus and praising Ole transfer deals. TransferMarket has it as 8.7m in and 3.5m out so with all other fee's, agents cut etc I suppose it could be closer to 8.5m than 5m.
Copenhagen the only real winners :hehe:
Agree on this, the signings of Antwi and Conte seem particularly bizarre. Antwi is 21 and deemed not good enough by Blackpool, Conte is 20 and wasn't good enough for QPR. Benjamin to me is a signing that makes more sense. He was 18 when he signed and has some pedigree by coming from Fulham (who have a good academy)Quote:
Originally Posted by AdrianAlston
What's particularly strange is that we bring in other clubs' youngsters, who are often older and look worse or no better than our own, and give them more opportunities than u21 players we've developed!
I maybe wrong but wasn’t it said that Anti and Conte were brought in more to make up the numbersQuote:
Originally Posted by City123
I thought Antwi got better as the season went on and the notion of him playing for the first team did not seem daft at times. However, you're right to mention his age and I agree completely with you and Adrian Alston's point about the sort of signings we make for the under 21 team.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Antwi in particular played a lot of football for someone brought in to make up the numbersQuote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
My, very long, take on the situation at City.
https://mauveandyellowarmy.net/