About time we had a rugby World Cup thread?

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Originally Posted by MacAdder

Good entertainment that.

Fiji are a great side to watch but they give away the ball too often.

I honestly thought Fiji would cut loose after their two first half tries but some fantastic tackling was enough.

People including the commentators and pundits saying we got lucky with the referee regarding possible penalty tries but I thought he favoured them more than us, particularly in the last ten minutes.

Anyway a brilliant defensive effort by Wales and that was a huge test against a very good team.
Should take some confidence moving forward.

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The ref yellow carded a Fijian the only time they gave away a penalty close to their line, but didn’t for the ten or so we gave away within ten yards of our line - the only yellow card he showed to a Welshman was for an act of stupidity forty yards out from our line - also we got lucky with how at least one of the times they claimed a try was concerned.

Wales were excellent in the third quarter of the game, but, as one or two, including Gatland, admitted were brainless at times in the final fifteen minutes.

Thought that, apart from once when he missed a tackle on his opposite number, Rees-Zammett was very good.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

He means if that Fiji player holds on to that pass they win the game , if he doesn't Wales win

He drops it .....so Wales win and Fiji lose

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Not necessarily.

The Fijian had to stoop for that ball, even if he had caught it cleanly, he had lost momentum by that time. There were three Wales defenders coming across who in the event would have made sure the Fijian player could only ground the ball out wide and not bring it towards the posts. It would have left the Fijian kicker a very difficult kick, bear in mind he had missed a 'bread & butter' kick just minutes earlier.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

The ref yellow carded a Fijian the only time they gave away a penalty close to their line, but didn’t for the ten or so we gave away within ten yards of our line - the only yellow card he showed to a Welshman was for an act of stupidity forty yards out from our line - also we got lucky with how at least one of the times they claimed a try was concerned.

Wales were excellent in the third quarter of the game, but, as one or two, including Gatland, admitted were brainless at times in the final fifteen minutes.

Thought that, apart from once when he missed a tackle on his opposite number, Rees-Zammett was very good.

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I think Gats said there were some 'Dumb'decisions. I wholeheartedly agree. Liam Williams' kick out on the full was stupid when barely one phase of possession would have seen the match out. Also Tomos Williams' pathetic box kick that went straight up was another which gifted them an almost inevitable offside penalty resulting in a period ot relentless pressure where we were lucky not to concede or get a yellow

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Not necessarily.

The Fijian had to stoop for that ball, even if he had caught it cleanly, he had lost momentum by that time. There were three Wales defenders coming across who in the event would have made sure the Fijian player could only ground the ball out wide and not bring it towards the posts. It would have left the Fijian kicker a very difficult kick, bear in mind he had missed a 'bread & butter' kick just minutes earlier.

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Last 20 Wales were on the retreat

Thank god for the ref

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

The ref yellow carded a Fijian the only time they gave away a penalty close to their line, but didn’t for the ten or so we gave away within ten yards of our line - the only yellow card he showed to a Welshman was for an act of stupidity forty yards out from our line - also we got lucky with how at least one of the times they claimed a try was concerned.

Wales were excellent in the third quarter of the game, but, as one or two, including Gatland, admitted were brainless at times in the final fifteen minutes.

Thought that, apart from once when he missed a tackle on his opposite number, Rees-Zammett was very good.

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Re the Fijian YC I think it’s because our Mail was rumbling to the try line and likely stopped an inevitable try.

Doesn’t excuse us not getting another one. But hey, theme the breaks.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

The ref yellow carded a Fijian the only time they gave away a penalty close to their line, but didn’t for the ten or so we gave away within ten yards of our line - the only yellow card he showed to a Welshman was for an act of stupidity forty yards out from our line - also we got lucky with how at least one of the times they claimed a try was concerned.

Wales were excellent in the third quarter of the game, but, as one or two, including Gatland, admitted were brainless at times in the final fifteen minutes.

Thought that, apart from once when he missed a tackle on his opposite number, Rees-Zammett was very good.

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It was like watching Cardiff City, daft decisions right at the end, but instead of getting punished in the last minute as we do, the Fijian fell over and threw the ball away.

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Originally Posted by Madassa

I think Gats said there were some 'Dumb'decisions. I wholeheartedly agree. Liam Williams' kick out on the full was stupid when barely one phase of possession would have seen the match out. Also Tomos Williams' pathetic box kick that went straight up was another which gifted them an almost inevitable offside penalty resulting in a period ot relentless pressure where we were lucky not to concede or get a yellow

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You're right about that Tomos Williams kick, the whole nature of the game changed after that.

Its already pointing towards an England v Wales quarter final.

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Originally Posted by Grangenders

Its already pointing towards an England v Wales quarter final.

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Listening to Radio 5 this morning, it seems like we may as well not turn up for that game - I heard my first serious claim that England could win the whole thing this morning.

Inevitable isn't it... definitely an impressive balls to the wall performance with 14 for the whole game but Argentina were absolute shite, no discipline and no creativity, just ran into the English wall again and again, turned it over or knocked it on or gave up a penalty every time.

I do think they probably have enough to get past Wales with a full squad in the quarters, but the first real contender they play will absolutely smash them still.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Last 20 Wales were on the retreat

Thank god for the ref

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I'm not disputing that. What I AM disputing is your assertion that if Fiji had scored that try it would have meant Wales would have definitely lost. Their kicker would still have had a difficult kick to try and convert close to the touchline. Also, as I said earlier, he had missed a not-too-difficult kick only minutes earlier, who knows how that might have played on his mind.

England will canter to the semis but won’t get any further. There is a huge chasm between the top 4 teams and everyone else at this World Cup.

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

I'm not disputing that. What I AM disputing is your assertion that if Fiji had scored that try it would have meant Wales would have definitely lost. Their kicker would still have had a difficult kick to try and convert close to the touchline. Also, as I said earlier, he had missed a not-too-difficult kick only minutes earlier, who knows how that might have played on his mind.

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Agree with this, the Fiji kicker is not great and I couldn't see him scoring the conversion. never know though..

Cracking game mind.

I do wonder if the need to get under the posts was what led to semi dropping that ball. Thinking ahead rather than just concentrating on catching ball and going into the corner. As others have said, That Fiji kicker was bloody awful. Must be gutted muntz got himself injured

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

I'm not disputing that. What I AM disputing is your assertion that if Fiji had scored that try it would have meant Wales would have definitely lost. Their kicker would still have had a difficult kick to try and convert close to the touchline. Also, as I said earlier, he had missed a not-too-difficult kick only minutes earlier, who knows how that might have played on his mind.

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You're ignoring the context of Sludge's comment. It was that a single move can change the result of a game in rugby in a way it can't in football. Wales were winning. If the Fijian player had held onto that ball they might well have scored and the conversion might well have gone over thus winning the game. In football a late goal to Fiji would have meant a draw not a win. The point being made was not that it was a certain try but that it might have given Fiji the win.

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

You're ignoring the context of Sludge's comment. It was that a single move can change the result of a game in rugby in a way it can't in football. Wales were winning. If the Fijian player had held onto that ball they might well have scored and the conversion might well have gone over thus winning the game. In football a late goal to Fiji would have meant a draw not a win. The point being made was not that it was a certain try but that it might have given Fiji the win.

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That is indeed the point jameswales made and I thought was a very good one

Scotland were fairly easily contained by SA yesterday but a couple of quick tries and the whole game turns

It's more possible given Rugby's points system ?

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

You're ignoring the context of Sludge's comment. It was that a single move can change the result of a game in rugby in a way it can't in football. Wales were winning. If the Fijian player had held onto that ball they might well have scored and the conversion might well have gone over thus winning the game. In football a late goal to Fiji would have meant a draw not a win. The point being made was not that it was a certain try but that it might have given Fiji the win.

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Sludge said.... "He means if that Fiji player holds on to that pass they win the game , if he doesn't Wales win"

That was a hypothetical statement by Sludge. My point is the Fijian player could have held on to the ball, scored the try, and STILL his team was not guaranteed to win.

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Sludge said.... "He means if that Fiji player holds on to that pass they win the game , if he doesn't Wales win"

That was a hypothetical statement by Sludge. My point is the Fijian player could have held on to the ball, scored the try, and STILL his team was not guaranteed to win.

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Of course it was a hypothetical statement. He dropped the ball so any discussion of what might have happened had he not done so is obviously hypothetical. The point I am making is that the main point of his statement was that a game can turn radically on a single score unlike football. Your reply ignores this context entirely. If you don't think so then fine.

I watched coverage yesterday on ITV.
Surprised that Gareth Thomas was a pundit on there.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Listening to Radio 5 this morning, it seems like we may as well not turn up for that game - I heard my first serious claim that England could win the whole thing this morning.

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As soon as the England game finished I told the missus they'll be saying they're going to win the cup now. And so they have. I bet the French, Irish and South Africans are quaking in their boots.

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Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue

I watched coverage yesterday on ITV.
Surprised that Gareth Thomas was a pundit on there.

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He's a very knowledgeable bloke and a good pundit when he's taking things seriously

That six nations sin bin is utter garbage

i dont understand the rules at all but im going to watch this tournament am i right in thinking a offload is a pass and a collision is a tackle ?

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

Of course it was a hypothetical statement. He dropped the ball so any discussion of what might have happened had he not done so is obviously hypothetical. The point I am making is that the main point of his statement was that a game can turn radically on a single score unlike football. Your reply ignores this context entirely. If you don't think so then fine.

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It's not about just dropping the ball. Fiji needed more than the 5pts for the try, they needed an extra score (the conversion).

Anyway, I'm not staying on here replying to you all day. You have your view, I have mine.

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Originally Posted by poc

i dont understand the rules at all but im going to watch this tournament am i right in thinking a offload is a pass and a collision is a tackle ?

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That will do 😂

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

He's a very knowledgeable bloke and a good pundit when he's taking things seriously

That six nations sin bin is utter garbage

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I think he's referring to the passing of the Aids without alerting his partner

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

He's a very knowledgeable bloke and a good pundit when he's taking things seriously

That six nations sin bin is utter garbage

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He's awful as a pundit. The Dr, Sam W and Ugo are streets ahead of him.

The horrible **** should stick to panto.

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Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman

He's awful as a pundit. The Dr, Sam W and Ugo are streets ahead of him.

The horrible **** should stick to panto.

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agree...

Terminology......yes.....offload=pass collision =tackle .. why try and change well understood phases? Transition is my pet hate....maybe they mean counter attack... all Americanisations...

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Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman

He's awful as a pundit. The Dr, Sam W and Ugo are streets ahead of him.

The horrible **** should stick to panto.

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Have you seen him in panto? He's a much better, alright then, slightly better rugby pundit than any panto character hes played.

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Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman

He's awful as a pundit. The Dr, Sam W and Ugo are streets ahead of him.

The horrible **** should stick to panto.

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Oh no he shouldn't

Wales definitely got the better decisions from the ref. There were a few occasions I was sure a card was and probably should have come out for the cynical infringements on the line.

Take it though.

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Originally Posted by Grangenders

England will canter to the semis but won’t get any further. There is a huge chasm between the top 4 teams and everyone else at this World Cup.

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There is no way England will “canter” passed us if we both meet in Qtr Finals. It will be a 50/50 game.

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Originally Posted by MacAdder

Oh no he shouldn't

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...oh YES he should....:hehe:

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Originally Posted by Maurice Swan

...oh YES he should....:hehe:

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Oh no he shouldn't

Watched a news report, talking to some Rugby fans, they seem to have abandoned the cowboy hats for Footballs “BUCKET HATS” :frown:

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

Watched a news report, talking to some Rugby fans, they seem to have abandoned the cowboy hats for Footballs “BUCKET HATS” :frown:

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I saw a report - think it was in WalesOnline but I may be wrong - which asserted that the wearing of bucket hats had started at Wales rugby internationals and spread to football.

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

I saw a report - think it was in WalesOnline but I may be wrong - which asserted that the wearing of bucket hats had started at Wales rugby internationals and spread to football.

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What utter bollox !!!!! :hehe::hehe:

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

What utter bollox !!!!! :hehe::hehe:

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Football stole men of Harlech, eggers stole the bucket hats. That’s 1-1. Who’s gonna get the winner?

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

I saw a report - think it was in WalesOnline but I may be wrong - which asserted that the wearing of bucket hats had started at Wales rugby internationals and spread to football.

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Absolute bollocks

Stick to max Boyce and daffodils

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

Football stole men of Harlech, eggers stole the bucket hats. That’s 1-1. Who’s gonna get the winner?

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No we didn't