FT: WALES 1 - 1 TURKEY. Match thread

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Originally Posted by fugsyphil

Just watched highlights and didn't think we deserved a penalty at all. Only one made the highlights so the other two must have been really weak.Theirs was very very soft though and such stupid defending allowing him to make that decision

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I have no idea how you've come to the conclusion. There are two stone wall penalties for Wales there.

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Originally Posted by fugsyphil

Just watched highlights and didn't think we deserved a penalty at all. Only one made the highlights so the other two must have been really weak.Theirs was very very soft though and such stupid defending allowing him to make that decision

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Remember the highlights shown last night were quickly put together ready for broadcast within 45mins of the final whistle. They wouldn't have the time to revisit and change at short notice what theyd included or didn't include.
For what it's worth I thought Harry Wilson went down a bit theatrically which may have Influenced the refs decision.

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Originally Posted by goats

He’s talking bollocks, they have more funds now than they’ve ever had after the last 7 yrs of success

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I'm not, they've posted losses recently. That's why they want to increase ticket prices but obvious I bow to your better knowledge :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Jordi Culé

Apart from Osian Roberts are there any other candidates?

Page limitations were shown again last night. Too slow to react or counter the opposing teams change of shape, decision making in taking Wilson off is mystifying.

I've said it before, he appears a great bloke but far too nice and limited.

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Page often gets us off to a good start, then the opposition changes it and he's ****ed as he doesn't know how to change things on the fly. Denmark in 2021, or last night are two prime examples.

Wilson is undroppable, he's probably one of a handful that are.

Looking back the group was there for the taking, Croatia aren’t what they were, Turkey looked very average. It was a poor group, we aren’t the best big Page is holding us back.

What happened with Giggs court case? I’d have him back in a second. Nathan Jones? Not a fan but surely a step up?

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

It sends the message that 3 wins in 16 competetiv games, 2 of those against Latvia, is completely unacceptable.

We might as well put Dai Hunt in charge for the play offs, he couldn’t do any worse

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100% spot on again. Why are we being held ransom by this bumbling buffoon. Support the team not the bloody inept manager

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Remember the highlights shown last night were quickly put together ready for broadcast within 45mins of the final whistle. They wouldn't have the time to revisit and change at short notice what theyd included or didn't include.
For what it's worth I thought Harry Wilson went down a bit theatrically which may have Influenced the refs decision.

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What I saw was only brief and the only pen shout shown was Johnson being run into. I didn't think that was a penalty he didn't even have the ball under control as he was too busy trying to win a penalty

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Originally Posted by fugsyphil

What I saw was only brief and the only pen shout shown was Johnson being run into. I didn't think that was a penalty he didn't even have the ball under control as he was too busy trying to win a penalty

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Did the player win the ball or even try? Would have been a foul anywhere else?

I think most people can accept that not being a pen until the one conceded.

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Originally Posted by fugsyphil

What I saw was only brief and the only pen shout shown was Johnson being run into. I didn't think that was a penalty he didn't even have the ball under control as he was too busy trying to win a penalty

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A player doesn’t even have to have the ball, let alone under control, in a penalty incident, a foul is a foul regardless.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

A player doesn’t even have to have the ball, let alone under control, in a penalty incident, a foul is a foul regardless.

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Yep and the player clearly caught Johnson with his foot catching him..Johnson was also shoved in the box by a player who had no chance of winning the ball. If they weren't pens then the slight contact by Davies on their player certainly wasn't either.
It was a decent performance and with a competent ref we would have won.

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Originally Posted by fugsyphil

What I saw was only brief and the only pen shout shown was Johnson being run into. I didn't think that was a penalty he didn't even have the ball under control as he was too busy trying to win a penalty

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What highlights did you watch? The BBC ones showed all three penalty shouts - I can understand the first two being turned down, but the third one is a stonewall pen, especially when you see what was deemed to be one in the second half.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

A player doesn’t even have to have the ball, let alone under control, in a penalty incident, a foul is a foul regardless.

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Exactly. You cant just barge through the back of someone without touching the ball yourself. :hehe::hehe:

Anyone remember a few seasons back at The Hawthorns? The ball had been cleared by West Brom and was somewhere near the dug outs but the ref spotted their ‘keeper giving Chopra a dig. Gave a pen immediately, the ball was 50 yards away. All this ‘Ah well it’s not a pen because he’d lost the ball or the chance had gone’ is a load of bollocks.