Cardiff - Changes to your recycling

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Thats what happens the leader eats the most and the others in the group then get some when he lets them, then if they find another group near their food they kick the shit out of them, we are all animals.

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there's a big difference between eating the most and hoarding more food than you could ever hope to eat in several lifetimes.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

It's growing computers, online businesses are part of the exponential growth in some areas, and money goes to money is still true and alive and kicking, so the top end is always moving forward.

Then traditional businesses are in decline and wealth there is decreasing, and we have five generations of families that will never see the need to work, and all forms of immigration, some coming right in at the top, but more adding to the lower wealth contingent.

As you've said it's worse in America and I've seen it's similar in most of Europe, but you'll never stop it, the same happens with bigger gaps in communist countries, the people at the top grab all the wealth and power.

Lions do the same the King has all the lionesses and the best food, we are animals.

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You're failing to grasp that we shouldn't just accept it as it is. Feck me, things are worse in the UK for most people than they were 20 years ago even though there's more money about.

The one thing that does sadden me here is that you really don't give a shit about those at the bottom. To you, it's nature's order that they need to be there. What a shit attitude to have.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

It's growing computers, online businesses are part of the exponential growth in some areas, and money goes to money is still true and alive and kicking, so the top end is always moving forward.

Then traditional businesses are in decline and wealth there is decreasing, and we have five generations of families that will never see the need to work, and all forms of immigration, some coming right in at the top, but more adding to the lower wealth contingent.

As you've said it's worse in America and I've seen it's similar in most of Europe, but you'll never stop it, the same happens with bigger gaps in communist countries, the people at the top grab all the wealth and power.

Lions do the same the King has all the lionesses and the best food, we are animals.

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Historically, when inequality reaches a certain level usually something dramatic happens, an uprising, a revolution. It has happened many times before and we are close to that kind of inequality today.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

You're failing to grasp that we shouldn't just accept it as it is. Feck me, things are worse in the UK for most people than they were 20 years ago even though there's more money about.

The one thing that does sadden me here is that you really don't give a shit about those at the bottom. To you, it's nature's order that they need to be there. What a shit attitude to have.

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No I do care, but there is nothing very much I can do about it other than pay my taxes and hope some get's redirected their way.

What are you doing about it?

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Historically, when inequality reaches a certain level usually something dramatic happens, an uprising, a revolution. It has happened many times before and we are close to that kind of inequality today.

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Yes that's factual, I think constant protests are the start of something different, will politicians and governments change or take notice time will tell?

They used to say we need a good war.

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Originally Posted by lardy

She's the top (or 2nd depending where you read) tax payer in the UK. Yet she's only 16th on the rich list according to this
https://www.independent.co.uk/money/...-b2341903.html


Shouldn't the wealthiest be paying most tax?

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I've often thought that like food hygiene ratings that businesses have to display on their premises, companies should also have to display a score based on how much of their tax they are paying in this country.
Funnel it all through some offshore tax haven - its not illegal but consumers should be able to see clearly that's what you're doing so they can make a choice.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

there's a big difference between eating the most and hoarding more food than you could ever hope to eat in several lifetimes.

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Quite.

I have no idea what the average wage is, but say someone earns £20k in a year. Forget about tax, NI for the moment.

Someone earning £1m in a year makes 50 times that.

Someone earning £1b in a year makes 50,000 times that.

According to Oxfam, since 2020, billionnaires are $3.3trillion better off. That's more than the UK's GDP. Corporations pay the tax they see fit as they won't be challenged. Some say we shouldn't challenge them as they provide jobs and taxation, but I disagree. Any company that makes the huge profits these corporations make should pay the correct levels of tax, not tell governments what they want to pay.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

No I do care, but there is nothing very much I can do about it other than pay my taxes and hope some get's redirected their way.

What are you doing about it?

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Well, you care enough not to be even vocal about it.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Denise Coates paid half a billion pounds in income tax. Her company employs 7000 people, most of whom pay tax & NI. Her businesses pay hundreds of millions in corporation tax. Tell her she'll 'hardly miss' another £50 million and she could well tell the govt. where to go and move to Guernsey etc.

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Are a proportion of that 7000 claiming ‘top up’ benefits due to low wages? Benefits that come out of the public purse.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Yes that's factual, I think constant protests are the start of something different, will politicians and governments change or take notice time will tell?

They used to say we need a good war.

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The last ‘civil war’ in this country chucked generations on the scrap heap. No sustainable, long term, decent employment to replace lost jobs resulting in many having to rely on hand outs & benefits to exist ad infinitum. Her war against the ‘enemy within’ is still reverberating to this day, while the rich get richer.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Well, you care enough not to be even vocal about it.

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Yes I've started a post on the daft waste of money on this stupid system, if they hadn't paid for all the stupid Ikea bags and special lorries they could have spent in on the people in the community that need it most, while you are happy for Drippy and the CC to waste money and never challenge them.

Llanishen
Green bag collection cancelled at 5.00pm today !!!!!

Streets full of them, gulls, crows and foxes will have a field day.

(They can smell the cans and paper that tossers don’t wash clean)

Now supposedly Monday collection

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

You're failing to grasp that we shouldn't just accept it as it is. Feck me, things are worse in the UK for most people than they were 20 years ago even though there's more money about.

The one thing that does sadden me here is that you really don't give a shit about those at the bottom. To you, it's nature's order that they need to be there. What a shit attitude to have.

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You love to gaslight people don't you!!

Here you are once again saying someone doesn't care, you were doing this to me until you decided to ignore me.

Oh and, without order Eric we descend into chaos. Humans work better within a hierarchy.

This thread seems to have gone a tad off-topic, hasn't it?!

Back to collections -

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Originally Posted by bobh

Today was collection day - except it isn't!
As I suspected, all the new recycling has been postponed until tomorrow (at least)
I have heard unconfirmed news that the council doesn't yet have enough of the new lorries that keep the different materials separate - so in some cases, your carefully separated recycling wase is being dumped into old lorries so it is mixed up again!
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Well, the glass caddy was emptied early this morning, but the red and blue bags for plastic and paper is still sitting there.
Checking the app, as I suspected, they've postponed again! Until tomorrow...maybe.

Pissup in a brewery comes to mind.

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Originally Posted by bobh

This thread seems to have gone a tad off-topic, hasn't it?!

Back to collections -


Well, the glass caddy was emptied early this morning, but the red and blue bags for plastic and paper is still sitting there.
Checking the app, as I suspected, they've postponed again! Until tomorrow...maybe.

Pissup in a brewery comes to mind.

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...And the bag collection has been postponed AGAIN!

Tossers

...And it's been postponed AGAIN!!
Now scheduled for Monday - closer to next Thursday than last, so I'll be surprised if they don't cancel it altogether and just pick it up on Thursday.

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Originally Posted by bobh

...And it's been postponed AGAIN!!
Now scheduled for Monday - closer to next Thursday than last, so I'll be surprised if they don't cancel it altogether and just pick it up on Thursday.

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The trucks that are split in two are in for a repair, so today they are mixing all the bags together anyway so splitting the recycling has been a waste of our time.

The binmen must hate all this extra hassle how long till they are back out on strike?

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

The trucks that are split in two are in for a repair, so today they are mixing all the bags together anyway so splitting the recycling has been a waste of our time.

The binmen must hate all this extra hassle how long till they are back out on strike?

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I saw a few of those split trucks out last week, I think perhaps they just don't have enough for all of Cardiff yet

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Originally Posted by Rjk

I saw a few of those split trucks out last week, I think perhaps they just don't have enough for all of Cardiff yet

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I saw a message from the counsellor, the Dennis split trucks are all in for repair, they considered separate trucks for Red and then another truck for Blue, but they don't have the resources to do that.

I saw someone moaning on FB that a dog peed on his bags, it's always going to happen dogs are the only ones who love them :hehe:

Meanwhile, the green recycling bags in Llanishen, are spread all the streets, having been attacked by the gulls & crows

It like a rubbish dump out there

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

The trucks that are split in two are in for a repair, so today they are mixing all the bags together anyway so splitting the recycling has been a waste of our time.

The binmen must hate all this extra hassle how long till they are back out on strike?

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I don't think the dispute is over yet. Collections still aren't back to 'normal', whatever that is.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

I saw a message from the counsellor, the Dennis split trucks are all in for repair, they considered separate trucks for Red and then another truck for Blue, but they don't have the resources to do that.

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well that wasn't the case last Thursday

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

I saw a message from the counsellor, the Dennis split trucks are all in for repair, they considered separate trucks for Red and then another truck for Blue, but they don't have the resources to do that.

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I s’pose them having a counsellor tells a tale :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Rjk

well that wasn't the case last Thursday

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Yes this morning I saw the message so today unless I missed it over the weekend.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

I s’pose them having a counsellor tells a tale :hehe:

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They probably need one after trying to implement this rubbish!

Just cancelled Llanishen again

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

Just cancelled Llanishen again

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Are you still in Johnston Road Tony?

Tomorrow for us now......

Allegedly

Or as our greatest playwright said

"Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day"

Couldn't have put it better myself

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

Just cancelled Llanishen again

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Postponed or cancelled?

They postponed me again, may as well cancel now, can't see them picking up tomorrow and Thursday.

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Originally Posted by bobh

Postponed or cancelled?

They postponed me again, may as well cancel now, can't see them picking up tomorrow and Thursday.

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They've just picked it up!!
Hoorah!

We're odds-on to be postponed or even cancelled for the collection scheduled for Thursday now. (only 2 days away)

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Originally Posted by bobh

Postponed or cancelled?

They postponed me again, may as well cancel now, can't see them picking up tomorrow and Thursday.

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A couple of months ago our green bag collection got postponed from the Wednesday, eventually being picked up the following Monday. They still turned up 2 days later to collect the green bags as normal that week. Utterly pointless.

Cardiff council recently emailed me saying they need to find savings of 58 odd million pounds and here they are introducing a new bin system with new vehicles - when the old system worked fine.
Cardiff council are lots of things but business savvy and financially prudent arent two of them.

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Originally Posted by pipster

Cardiff council recently emailed me saying they need to find savings of 58 odd million pounds and here they are introducing a new bin system with new vehicles - when the old system worked fine.
Cardiff council are lots of things but business savvy and financially prudent arent two of them.

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The new system is designed to improve recycling rates, and should avoid penalties for not recycling enough.
But they've cocked up big time on its implementation.

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Originally Posted by bobh

The new system is designed to improve recycling rates, and should avoid penalties for not recycling enough.
But they've cocked up big time on its implementation.

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Ikea bags that flap open, let rain flood in and the contents out, and are so light they fly down the street in the wind?

Who designed it, Cardiff nursery kids?

I just can't believe the incompetence of these people, it's wasting so much money!

What do these lot do?

https://cardiff.moderngov.co.uk/mgMe...dex.aspx?bcr=1

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Ikea bags that flap open, let rain flood in and the contents out, and are so light they fly down the street in the wind?

Who designed it, Cardiff nursery kids?

I just can't believe the incompetence of these people, it's wasting so much money!

What do these lot do?

https://cardiff.moderngov.co.uk/mgMe...dex.aspx?bcr=1

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Wait until the ants get in them come summer

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Ikea bags that flap open, let rain flood in and the contents out, and are so light they fly down the street in the wind?

Who designed it, Cardiff nursery kids?

I just can't believe the incompetence of these people, it's wasting so much money!

What do these lot do?

https://cardiff.moderngov.co.uk/mgMe...dex.aspx?bcr=1

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why are you worried about recycling getting wet ?

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Originally Posted by poc

why are you worried about recycling getting wet ?

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Because the lazy bastard’s then don’t pick it up

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Originally Posted by poc

why are you worried about recycling getting wet ?

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No one is worried about that. But your the huge bags getting wet and then being stored in the house is an issue. Why would anyone want it?

For the first time in 25 years I recycled nothing last week. I just put the stuff in the black bin.

At best ill be putting out a few glass jars every other week, otherwise I simply don't have the storage.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

No one is worried about that. But your the huge bags getting wet and then being stored in the house is an issue. Why would anyone want it?

For the first time in 25 years I recycled nothing last week. I just put the stuff in the black bin.

At best ill be putting out a few glass jars every other week, otherwise I simply don't have the storage.

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why keep them in the house ?

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Originally Posted by poc

why keep them in the house ?

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Because not everybody lives somewhere with a garage or a shed.