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In what the media is reporting as a rare earthquake, New York and the surrounding areas have been shaken up - link
With just 3 days to go before the third of 3 total *eclipses across America; it will be interesting to see in the weeks and years that immediately follow, what will unfold in States, from it's soon to be chosen President, right through it's social and natural disasters.
* The New Madrid Quakes that unfolded within 6 years of the 1806 American Eclipse were reported this way:-
"In the known history of the world, no other earthquakes have lasted so long or produced so much evidence of damage as the New Madrid earthquakes".
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truthpaste
In what the media is reporting as a rare earthquake, New York and the surrounding areas have been shaken up -
link
With just 3 days to go before the third of 3 total *eclipses across America; it will be interesting to see in the weeks and years that immediately follow, what will unfold in States, from it's soon to be chosen President, right through it's social and natural disasters.
* The
New Madrid Quakes that unfolded within 6 years of the 1806 American Eclipse were reported this way:-
"In the known history of the world, no other earthquakes have lasted so long or produced so much evidence of damage as the New Madrid earthquakes".
So now your timeframe for correlation between eclipses and earthquakes is years?
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truthpaste
In what the media is reporting as a rare earthquake, New York and the surrounding areas have been shaken up -
link
With just 3 days to go before the third of 3 total *eclipses across America; it will be interesting to see in the weeks and years that immediately follow, what will unfold in States, from it's soon to be chosen President, right through it's social and natural disasters.
* The
New Madrid Quakes that unfolded within 6 years of the 1806 American Eclipse were reported this way:-
"In the known history of the world, no other earthquakes have lasted so long or produced so much evidence of damage as the New Madrid earthquakes".
You are Marjorie Taylor Green and i claim my £5.
You do know an ECLIPSE can be forecast upto 3000yrs in advance.
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So now your timeframe for correlation between eclipses and earthquakes is years?
My timeframe! I don't claim to have such powers :hehe:
As we saw, the timeframe in 1999 saw devastation within 6 days of the eclipse, the example above from 1806 was 6 years.
These rare periods of 'darkness' have often served as a warning or a heads-up. These warnings can come to a nation, and on very rare occasions to the world. You will recall the accounts of darkness in the middle of the day as Christ was lifted into position on the Cross.
The main reasons so many are scrutinising this 2024 Eclipse more than past eclipses:-
* It could potentially be linked to the 2017 eclipse forming an X over 'Little Egypt' in the area of New Madrid, which as we already know had the most devastating earthquakes in close succession in history.
* It makes perfect sense that God would be giving everyone a heads up when we look at current world events with more unrest, war, famine, deadly diseases, pandemics and natural disasters than any of us have ever witnessed.
* But look at it this way, I may die because of worldwide devastation, a worse pandemic than covid19 or even the brief event that would be WW3; I could also die at an old age while watching City play away to Barcelona on a 16K virtual reality headset!
But either way I will meet my Maker. Am I ready for that unavoidable appointment?
God asks me to repent and trust in Christ, all of us will die having made that decision ourselves.
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* It makes perfect sense that God would be giving everyone a heads up when we look at current world events with more unrest, war, famine, deadly diseases, pandemics and natural disasters than any of us have ever witnessed.
You do realise he would have had to have planned that heads-up millennia ago, in which case that suggests we're all on a predisposed path in life anyway.
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My timeframe! I don't claim to have such powers :hehe:
As we saw, the timeframe in 1999 saw devastation within 6 days of the eclipse, the example above from 1806 was 6 years.
These rare periods of 'darkness' have often served as a warning or a heads-up. These warnings can come to a nation, and on very rare occasions to the world. You will recall the accounts of darkness in the middle of the day as Christ was lifted into position on the Cross.
The main reasons so many are scrutinising this 2024 Eclipse more than past eclipses:-
* It could potentially be linked to the 2017 eclipse forming an X over 'Little Egypt' in the area of New Madrid, which as we already know had the most devastating earthquakes in close succession in history.
* It makes perfect sense that God would be giving everyone a heads up when we look at current world events with more unrest, war, famine, deadly diseases, pandemics and natural disasters than any of us have ever witnessed.
* But look at it this way, I may die because of worldwide devastation, a worse pandemic than covid19 or even the brief event that would be WW3; I could also die at an old age while watching City play away to Barcelona on a 16K virtual reality headset!
But either way I will meet my Maker. Am I ready for that unavoidable appointment?
God asks me to repent and trust in Christ, all of us will die having made that decision ourselves.
Is there a correlation between eclipses and earthquakes?
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Canton Kev
Is there a correlation between eclipses and earthquakes?
Examples have been detailed in this discussion, with the 1806 Eclipse giving fair warning of a series of Quakes that have yet to be equalled in history.
Someone else then mentioned that the 1999 eclipse didn't result in Cornwall falling into the sea, yet when we checked, that same eclipse went across Turkey which suffered it's worst earthquake of the 20th Century just 6 days later.
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Examples have been detailed in this discussion, with the 1806 Eclipse giving fair warning of a series of Quakes that have yet to be equalled in history.
Someone else then mentioned that the 1999 eclipse didn't result in Cornwall falling into the sea, yet when we checked, that same eclipse went across Turkey which suffered it's worst earthquake of the 20th Century just 6 days later.
What about the earthquakes that happen without prior eclipses, what about the eclipses that aren’t followed by earthquakes?
Do you think eclipses cause earthquakes over half a decade later?
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I think you will find that 6 is the magic number here. For most people the fact that there are around five quakes a day worldwide of a magnitude of 5 (which is greater than the 4.8 in New York that triggered Truthpaste) https://www.statista.com/statistics/...de-since-2000/
There are around 3 solar eclipses a year on the planet. So about a 1:500 ratio.
But obviously if you can get a big earthquake within 6 hours, 6 days, 6 weeks, 6 months or even 6 years of a total solar eclipse somewhere in Christendom then you win the number of the beast prize in Armeggedon bingo!
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Truthpaste is not aware of his own confirmation bias. He will only cite things that back up his theories / agenda and disregard any facts that don't fit.
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Canton Kev
What about the earthquakes that happen without prior eclipses, what about the eclipses that aren’t followed by earthquakes?
Do you think eclipses cause earthquakes over half a decade later?
Well it's interesting that periods of 7 years are a regular theme from Genesis through to Revelation. God deals in this time period over and over again. The final period of terror on earth is made up of two forty two month periods, known as the Great Tribulation, which also adds up to seven years.
Not all eclipses will point to significant events, and not all earthquakes will be preceded by an eclipse. So how will we know what's important and what isn't? We are asked to look for all the signs that God has written about in Scripture, and in this way we won't get carried away by false signs and prophecies.
As Christ said, when you see ALL THESE THINGS taking place, know that I am near, even at the door.
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truthpaste
Well it's interesting that periods of 7 years are a regular theme from Genesis through to Revelation. God deals in this time period over and over again. The final period of terror on earth is made up of two forty two month periods, known as the Great Tribulation, which also adds up to seven years.
Not all eclipses will point to significant events, and not all earthquakes will be preceded by an eclipse. So how will we know what's important and what isn't? We are asked to look for all the signs that God has written about in Scripture, and in this way we won't get carried away by false signs and prophecies.
As Christ said, when you see ALL THESE THINGS taking place, know that I am near, even at the door.
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truthpaste
Well it's interesting that periods of 7 years are a regular theme from Genesis through to Revelation. God deals in this time period over and over again. The final period of terror on earth is made up of two forty two month periods, known as the Great Tribulation, which also adds up to seven years.
Not all eclipses will point to significant events, and not all earthquakes will be preceded by an eclipse. So how will we know what's important and what isn't? We are asked to look for all the signs that God has written about in Scripture, and in this way we won't get carried away by false signs and prophecies.
As Christ said, when you see ALL THESE THINGS taking place, know that I am near, even at the door.
Not all eclipses will point to significant events, and not all earthquakes will be preceded by an eclipse. So how will we know what's important and what isn't?
You seem to have covered most bases there, fair play.
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cyril evans awaydays
I think you will find that 6 is the magic number here. For most people the fact that there are around five quakes a day worldwide of a magnitude of 5 (which is greater than the 4.8 in New York that triggered Truthpaste)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...de-since-2000/
There are around 3 solar eclipses a year on the planet. So about a 1:500 ratio.
But obviously if you can get a big earthquake within 6 hours, 6 days, 6 weeks, 6 months or even 6 years of a total solar eclipse somewhere in Christendom then you win the number of the beast prize in Armeggedon bingo!
House,where do i get my prize
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Not all eclipses will point to significant events, and not all earthquakes will be preceded by an eclipse. So how will we know what's important and what isn't?
You seem to have covered most bases there, fair play.
How can we understand what is important?
That's an excellent question and we are now moving into the arena of spiritual discerment within the field of *eschatology.
My apologies this isn't a one line answer but I'll make it as short and jargon free as possible (feel free to ask further questions).
This involves the study of the original languages of the Bible, learning what conditions, events and attitudues to look for. And to know when the key elements of the bigger picture are coming together on a worldwide basis.
Many top scientists and theologians have devoted a significant part of their lives in studying these key truths concerning the furture, with Sir Isaac Newton allowing it to take up more of his time than the other scientific work he became famous for!
Also when it comes to spiritual discernment, the person who may wish to use the Bible as a tool to know what happens next (etc), will have a massive disadvantage if they don't already know the ultimate Author of the Book, Almighty God.
The reason being this - God is an Eternal Spirit, and as humans are made up of 'Spirit, Soul & Body'. However the Bible tells us we are 'dead' because of our rebellious nature, and the part of us that is dead is our Spirit. Possibly why people are historically referred to as Body & Soul. When someone seeks God's forgiveness and commits their life to Christ acknowledging that His death on the Cross was to pay the price (sentence) of their rebellion, their dead Spirit becomes alive, and that person is said to be born anew, or born again, now alive as Spirit, Soul & Body as all of us are meant to be.
Those who remain 'dead' will not understand these things, or even discern the significance of events going on around them and across the world, so they will simply scoff, declaring it to be a confusing picture that nobody could possibly understand and that there are NO signs that Christ is soon to appear in judgement at all:-
2 Peter 3:3 "Most importantly, I want to remind you that in the last days scoffers will come, mocking the truth and following their own desires. 4 They will say, “What happened to the promise that Jesus is coming again? From before the times of our ancestors, everything has remained the same since the world was first created.”
* Prophecy is one element of Eschatology.
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And you believe this particular solar eclipse to be important?
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And you believe this particular solar eclipse to be important?
Certainly to America, which then could mean it's potentially significant to us too.
Here's one example, you'll remember the number 7 from yesterday's dialogue. In exactly seven months America will have just selected their next President, and we know that this will in turn impact (in some measure) at least three key world situations:-
1. The future of NATO.
2. The Israel/ Palestine/ Iran/ Syria etc situation
3. The conflict in Ukraine.
So America has much soul searching and praying (for wisdom) to do, and while we are a nation that would (in the main) laugh at such a notion, America still is a nation that mainly respects God and values prayer.
I hope that begins to answer your question :thumbup:
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'Prophecy is one element of Eschatology.'
Yes it is.:hehe:
Like gobbledegook is one element of gibberish! :thumbup:
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'Prophecy is one element of Eschatology.'
Yes it is.:hehe:
Like gobbledegook is one element of gibberish! :thumbup:
Thanks for confirming the position of the compromised and forementioned scoffer, much appreciated :thumbup:
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Thanks for confirming the position of the compromised and forementioned scoffer, much appreciated :thumbup:
No problem. Always happy to help. :thumbup:
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jon1959
No problem. Always happy to help. :thumbup:
What is it like to be compromised?
Is it any good?
Do you go anywhere when it ends?
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What is it like to be compromised?
Is it any good?
Do you go anywhere when it ends?
I recommend it.
You don't go anywhere when it ends (no one does) but you have less fanatical bullshit in your life up to that point.
Very liberating! :thumbup:
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2 Peter 3:3 "Most importantly, I want to remind you that in the last days scoffers will come, mocking the truth and following their own desires. 4 They will say, “What happened to the promise that Jesus is coming again? From before the times of our ancestors, everything has remained the same since the world was first created.”
The above is one of the Biblical prophesies that has definitely come to pass!
I have refrained from entering into the “eclipses vs earthquakes” debate because to me it seems a pointless exercise really, as indeed does a lot of speculation about “signs” pointing to the end times.
The Bible is quite specific about the end times:
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father”. (Matthew 24: 36).
The key question for all of us, especially Christians, is, are we ready at all times? Jesus went on to say:
Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. (Matthew 24: 42 – 44).
The events happening around the world are admittedly pretty scary (geopolitical turmoil, climate change, droughts, floods, earthquakes, wars etc) but it is not too difficult to imagine that things can get very much worse yet. How much worse will they have to get before Jesus returns – as above – who knows?!
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Gofer Blue
The above is one of the Biblical prophesies that has definitely come to pass!
I have refrained from entering into the “eclipses vs earthquakes” debate because to me it seems a pointless exercise really, as indeed does a lot of speculation about “signs” pointing to the end times.
The Bible is quite specific about the end times:
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father”. (Matthew 24: 36).
The key question for all of us, especially Christians, is, are we ready at all times? Jesus went on to say:
Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. (Matthew 24: 42 – 44).
The events happening around the world are admittedly pretty scary (geopolitical turmoil, climate change, droughts, floods, earthquakes, wars etc) but it is not too difficult to imagine that things can get very much worse yet. How much worse will they have to get before Jesus returns – as above – who knows?!
I agree, and Jesus introduced the image of childbirth in that same passage. My first grandson was due to be born just over ten years ago. His mother began feeling birthpains on the Friday. Nobody could say the day or the hour he would arrive, not even the midwife or the doctor. As it turned out he decided the weekend saw the UHW a little light on medics and so he arrived on the Monday.
So what do we take from Jesus words in Matthew 24:7-8 "Nation will go to war against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in many parts of the world. But all this is only the first of the birth pains, with more to come."
You see, we didn't know the actual day my grandson would arrive, but firstly we did know he was on the way, and the frequency and the intensity of those birth pains indicated how close the time for his arrival was.
Even people across the secular world have noticed that our planet is bursting in more and more natural disasters year on year, that humans are pressing the most dangerous 'buttons' in multiple locations across the world when it comes to war, and with the world gradually focusing their anger on Israel we have the required scenary for Psalm 83 & Ezekiel 38.
Yes it could still get worse, but bibiblically speaking at this juncture, it doesn't need to :sherlock:
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I recommend it.
You don't go anywhere when it ends (no one does) but you have less fanatical bullshit in your life up to that point.
Very liberating! :thumbup:
I felt that way when i got out of going to church.:thumbup:
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I felt that way when i got out of going to church.:thumbup:
"Got out of" says it all. Unfortunately many UK churches have drifted away from answering the questions all people have, moving into man-made traditions and telling people what they want to hear rather than what they need to hear.
So I would also choose to leave such a 'place of worship' and pursue one that was doing things properly in a way that honours God.
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"Got out of" says it all. Unfortunately many UK churches have drifted away from answering the questions all people have, moving into man-made traditions and telling people what they want to hear rather than what they need to hear.
So I would also choose to leave such a 'place of worship' and pursue one that was doing things properly in a way that honours God.
Nothing you have posted is correct about me or the church i attended.
I just stopped being brain washed.
I realised there is no such thing as god.
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"Got out of" says it all. Unfortunately many UK churches have drifted away from answering the questions all people have, moving into man-made traditions and telling people what they want to hear rather than what they need to hear.
So I would also choose to leave such a 'place of worship' and pursue one that was doing things properly in a way that honours God.
Bit rich coming from you :hehe:
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Nothing you have posted is correct about me or the church i attended.
I just stopped being brain washed.
I realised there is no such thing as god.
Of course.
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Bit rich coming from you :hehe:
A cheap shot.
Or if you are being genuine, ask now....
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A cheap shot.
Or if you are being genuine, ask now....
I’ve asked several questions. You’ve either ignored them, avoided them or given a meandering non answer quoting bible verses without addressing the point.
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I’ve asked several questions. You’ve either ignored them, avoided them or given a meandering non answer quoting bible verses without addressing the point.
As I suspected, you just want to whine about nothing.
As always, if you make the effort to put together a honest question then I will give you an honest answer. If that answer involves a quote from God that you cannnot understand then just ask a follow up question. It's not complicated?
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As I suspected, you just want to whine about nothing.
As always, if you make the effort to put together a honest question then I will give you an honest answer. If that answer involves a quote from God that you cannnot understand then just ask a follow up question. It's not complicated?
Do you think there is a correlation between solar eclipses and earthquakes?
How does a solar eclipse cause or help cause an earthquake, and how can this affect sometimes be delayed until years later?
Can you explain why there a solar eclipses and earthquakes that occur with seemingly no relation?
Why are some of the biggest and deadliest earthquakes in recent decades seemingly unrelated to solar eclipses?
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Do you think there is a correlation between solar eclipses and earthquakes?
How does a solar eclipse cause or help cause an earthquake, and how can this affect sometimes be delayed until years later?
Can you explain why there a solar eclipses and earthquakes that occur with seemingly no relation?
Why are some of the biggest and deadliest earthquakes in recent decades seemingly unrelated to solar eclipses?
Your questions are good and I will answer them, but first I'll make an observation:-
In your question:-
*How does a solar eclipse cause or help cause an earthquake, it becomes clear that your world view totally discounts the presents of an intelligent being who has the ability and power to be connected to the exact position of the earth, moon & sun at any point in time, and of course any natural phenomenon happening on earth.
This isn't a criticism, simply an observation that indicates that my answers will be coming from a very different place to your own.
Maybe in the future, we can explore your model of the Universe and it's precise order being the result of chance random processes rather than an Almighty Creator.
So in scientific terms, the answer to your first question is simply, it doesn't.
However if Almighty God does exist, then He is quite at liberty to use certain eclipses to give warning of significant changes to come, which could include earthquakes, floods, famine or deadly diseases.
* how can this affect sometimes be delayed until years later? - this is because God isn't limited in the amount of time He feels is appropriate in each case.
* Can you explain why there a solar eclipses and earthquakes that occur with seemingly no relation? - you are right to say 'seemingly' because until someone in this conversation brought up 1999, I personally had made no connection between that total eclipse and the terrible events in Turkey six days later. Why is that? Because I had never studied the entire pathway of that eclipse.
I wouldn't therefore claim that all such eclipses have related events, but to really know we would need to be looking for more than just earthquakes, as judgement upon a nation can take many forms, even economic.
* Why are some of the biggest and deadliest earthquakes in recent decades seemingly unrelated to solar eclipses?
Of course I would initially refer you to my previous answer; but also God's Judgement can often be instant in circumstances where He feels that the people have been given all the information to go the right way but they've set their hearts on rebellion come what may.
Once again thanks for the questions and do feel free to come back with queries or follow up questions as you see fit.
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Your questions are good and I will answer them, but first I'll make an observation:-
In your question:-
*How does a solar eclipse cause or help cause an earthquake, it becomes clear that your world view totally discounts the presents of an intelligent being who has the ability and power to be connected to the exact position of the earth, moon & sun at any point in time, and of course any natural phenomenon happening on earth.
This isn't a criticism, simply an observation that indicates that my answers will be coming from a very different place to your own.
Maybe in the future, we can explore your model of the Universe and it's precise order being the result of chance random processes rather than an Almighty Creator.
So in scientific terms, the answer to your first question is simply, it doesn't.
However if Almighty God does exist, then He is quite at liberty to use certain eclipses to give warning of significant changes to come, which could include earthquakes, floods, famine or deadly diseases.
* how can this affect sometimes be delayed until years later? - this is because God isn't limited in the amount of time He feels is appropriate in each case.
* Can you explain why there a solar eclipses and earthquakes that occur with seemingly no relation? - you are right to say 'seemingly' because until someone in this conversation brought up 1999, I personally had made no connection between that total eclipse and the terrible events in Turkey six days later. Why is that? Because I had never studied the entire pathway of that eclipse.
I wouldn't therefore claim that all such eclipses have related events, but to really know we would need to be looking for more than just earthquakes, as judgement upon a nation can take many forms, even economic.
* Why are some of the biggest and deadliest earthquakes in recent decades seemingly unrelated to solar eclipses?
Of course I would initially refer you to my previous answer; but also God's Judgement can often be instant in circumstances where He feels that the people have been given all the information to go the right way but they've set their hearts on rebellion come what may.
Once again thanks for the questions and do feel free to come back with queries or follow up questions as you see fit.
Again the biggest load of crap i have ever read.
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Your questions are good and I will answer them, but first I'll make an observation:-
In your question:-
*How does a solar eclipse cause or help cause an earthquake, it becomes clear that your world view totally discounts the presents of an intelligent being who has the ability and power to be connected to the exact position of the earth, moon & sun at any point in time, and of course any natural phenomenon happening on earth.
This isn't a criticism, simply an observation that indicates that my answers will be coming from a very different place to your own.
Maybe in the future, we can explore your model of the Universe and it's precise order being the result of chance random processes rather than an Almighty Creator.
So in scientific terms, the answer to your first question is simply, it doesn't.
However if Almighty God does exist, then He is quite at liberty to use certain eclipses to give warning of significant changes to come, which could include earthquakes, floods, famine or deadly diseases.
* how can this affect sometimes be delayed until years later? - this is because God isn't limited in the amount of time He feels is appropriate in each case.
* Can you explain why there a solar eclipses and earthquakes that occur with seemingly no relation? - you are right to say 'seemingly' because until someone in this conversation brought up 1999, I personally had made no connection between that total eclipse and the terrible events in Turkey six days later. Why is that? Because I had never studied the entire pathway of that eclipse.
I wouldn't therefore claim that all such eclipses have related events, but to really know we would need to be looking for more than just earthquakes, as judgement upon a nation can take many forms, even economic.
* Why are some of the biggest and deadliest earthquakes in recent decades seemingly unrelated to solar eclipses?
Of course I would initially refer you to my previous answer; but also God's Judgement can often be instant in circumstances where He feels that the people have been given all the information to go the right way but they've set their hearts on rebellion come what may.
Once again thanks for the questions and do feel free to come back with queries or follow up questions as you see fit.
So the gist of it is;
Solar eclipses are connected to earthquakes as it’s god doing it as a warning. But if it happens without warning, it’s also god doing it. And sometimes eclipses and earthquakes just happen without being connected and aren’t a warning or message from god but it’s still god doing it because god controls everything.
When god created the universe 4000 (or however many you believe) years ago, did he set the moon on an orbital path to create an eclipse to match up with the future 2024 American Presidential election, or did he retroactively make the election coincide (7 months later) with the eclipse?
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Thank you Canton Kev for articulating my thoughts exactly. I just couldn’t be arsed writing them down because, well, you know…
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So the gist of it is;
Solar eclipses are connected to earthquakes as it’s god doing it as a warning. But if it happens without warning, it’s also god doing it. And sometimes eclipses and earthquakes just happen without being connected and aren’t a warning or message from god but it’s still god doing it because god controls everything.
When god created the universe 4000 (or however many you believe) years ago, did he set the moon on an orbital path to create an eclipse to match up with the future 2024 American Presidential election, or did he retroactively make the election coincide (7 months later) with the eclipse?
To sum up your first paragraph, God is omnipotent. This is one of His attributes. In other words he is ALMIGHTY.
God creating everything was over 4000 years before the birth of Christ, so just add +2000 years to your estimate.
The Bible does promise that God will use the stars, planets, moon and sun to send us a selection of messages; you may remember the wise men who travelled for 2 years as they read the night sky and knew beyond doubt that the Messiah had been born, the Bible has numberous references to the signs that led them to Christ at that first Christmas.
So just like God knew when Christ would be born, He also knows the dates of every other event throughout human history, so he has set up each conjunction, eclipse, blood moon etc from the beginning of time! So the Universe is a precisely set 'time-piece'.
That answers your question about the Autumn 2024 American Election.
The Chart below is produced by NASA and taken from their website, you may remember that Christ died at the age of 33.
As with many key events including the death of Christ, the skies were having their say, you can see that this event (on the chart lasted for around 3 hours), we read in Scripture that Christ was Crucified at noon and then this happened around 3pm:
Matthew 27: 46-51 At about three o’clock, Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” which means “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?” Some of the bystanders misunderstood and thought he was calling for the prophet Elijah. One of them ran and filled a sponge with sour wine, holding it up to him on a reed stick so he could drink. But the rest said, “Wait! Let’s see whether Elijah comes to save him.” Then Jesus shouted out again, and he released his spirit. At that moment the curtain in the sanctuary of the Temple was torn in two, from top to bottom. The earth shook, rocks split apart..."
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The Chart below is produced by NASA and taken from their website, you may remember that Christ died at the age of 33.
As with many key events including the death of Christ, the skies were having their say, you can see that this event (on the chart lasted for
around 3 hours), we read in Scripture that Christ was Crucified at noon and then this happened around 3pm:
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Can you link directly to the page on the NASA website that you found that? Because it doesn't really look like the kind of thing I'd expect to see on NASA.
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To sum up your first paragraph, God is omnipotent. This is one of His attributes. In other words he is ALMIGHTY.
God creating everything was over 4000 years before the birth of Christ, so just add +2000 years to your estimate.
The Bible does promise that God will use the stars, planets, moon and sun to send us a selection of messages; you may remember the wise men who travelled for 2 years as they read the night sky and knew beyond doubt that the Messiah had been born, the Bible has numberous references to the signs that led them to Christ at that first Christmas.
So just like God knew when Christ would be born, He also knows the dates of every other event throughout human history, so he has set up each conjunction, eclipse, blood moon etc from the beginning of time! So the Universe is a precisely set 'time-piece'.
That answers your question about the Autumn 2024 American Election.
The Chart below is produced by NASA and taken from their website, you may remember that Christ died at the age of 33.
As with many key events including the death of Christ, the skies were having their say, you can see that this event (on the chart lasted for
around 3 hours), we read in Scripture that Christ was Crucified at noon and then this happened around 3pm:
Matthew 27: 46-51
At about three o’clock, Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” which means “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?” Some of the bystanders misunderstood and thought he was calling for the prophet Elijah. One of them ran and filled a sponge with sour wine, holding it up to him on a reed stick so he could drink. But the rest said, “Wait! Let’s see whether Elijah comes to save him.” Then Jesus shouted out again, and he released his spirit. At that moment the curtain in the sanctuary of the Temple was torn in two, from top to bottom. The earth shook, rocks split apart..."
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A longer and “proper” eclipse occurred when Augustus died. You’d think God would’ve saved up that one for his own son.
Personally, I would’ve relegated Augustus’ eclipse to the same level as the fall of Constantinople.
Also 2 eclipses in 1777? You’d think that would be a good year for Jesus to come knocking what with the whole symbolism and numbers thing. Why’d he sit that one out?