So wtf is going on with Bulut?

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Originally Posted by OurManFlint II

My point wasn't to the fact of the "go back to where you came from", i just used that for emphasis....

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And there's the issue. You and the usual suspect are putting words in people's mouths and distorting what was actually said.

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Originally Posted by OurManFlint II

My point wasn't to the fact of the "go back to where you came from", i just used that for emphasis, sadly it distracted from what i feel was the real racial slur of 'turkball'. The similarity with the term "wogball" is unquestionable. Plus he's got form.
why those opposed to Bulut are trying to defend it is more worrying. Scary place we live in now.

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The level of daftness is debatable but its there

Is Greek racist, is Turk racist, is Brit racist, is Taff racist, ffs hurry up Tan, this is what it's come to!!!!

So wtf is going on with Bulut?

Feels like the last few pages is the sort of nonsense Tan, Choo, Dalman and co have been arguing about instead of securing us a manager for next season.

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Originally Posted by Trigger

So wtf is going on with Bulut?

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With all due respect, I don't think you're going to find the answer on here.

Let’s imagine for a moment that Erol Bulut was instead called Eric Buchanan and had managed four teams in the Scottish Premiership with varying degrees of success before arriving in Cardiff.

Let’s pretend that Eric and his team had just served up a season of mind-numbingly tedious, negative football before the manager was reported to have returned to his family in Edinburgh while contract negotiations for the 2024/25 season remained unresolved.

Let’s say someone had posted on here: “I'm praying Buchanan's flounced off back to Scotland, but knowing our knowledgeable lot they're probably doing everything possible to get him to stay and deliver his 'Jockball' for another season,” while another fan had posted under a Wales Online report: “Leave him in Scotland, we don’t want him back!”

What do you reckon the reaction would have been?

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Let’s imagine for a moment that Erol Bulut was instead called Eric Buchanan and had managed four teams in the Scottish Premiership with varying degrees of success before arriving in Cardiff.

Let’s pretend that Eric and his team had just served up a season of mind-numbingly tedious, negative football before the manager was reported to have returned to his family in Edinburgh while contract negotiations for the 2024/25 season remained unresolved.

Let’s say someone had posted on here: “I'm praying Buchanan's flounced off back to Scotland, but knowing our knowledgeable lot they're probably doing everything possible to get him to stay and deliver his 'Jockball' for another season,” while another fan had posted under a Wales Online report: “Leave him in Scotland, we don’t want him back!”

What do you reckon the reaction would have been?

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You would have thought there would no reaction. But then again some self appointed social media vigilante would find issue. That's just the way they are.

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Originally Posted by OurManFlint II

My point wasn't to the fact of the "go back to where you came from", i just used that for emphasis, sadly it distracted from what i feel was the real racial slur of 'turkball'. The similarity with the term "wogball" is unquestionable. Plus he's got form.
why those opposed to Bulut are trying to defend it is more worrying. Scary place we live in now.

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You daft bugger.
1 Who has ever heard of the term "wogball"?
2 Atatürk the Founder of the Republic of Turkey said. “Ne mutlu Türk’üm diyene” which means; "how happy is the one who says, i’m a Turk". It is not a derogatory term.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Let’s imagine for a moment that Erol Bulut was instead called Eric Buchanan and had managed four teams in the Scottish Premiership with varying degrees of success before arriving in Cardiff.

Let’s pretend that Eric and his team had just served up a season of mind-numbingly tedious, negative football before the manager was reported to have returned to his family in Edinburgh while contract negotiations for the 2024/25 season remained unresolved.

Let’s say someone had posted on here: “I'm praying Buchanan's flounced off back to Scotland, but knowing our knowledgeable lot they're probably doing everything possible to get him to stay and deliver his 'Jockball' for another season,” while another fan had posted under a Wales Online report: “Leave him in Scotland, we don’t want him back!”

What do you reckon the reaction would have been?

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SweatySockist reported! …………….am I ok with ‘sweaty sock’?

Going back to the subject of this thread, wasn’t Bulut supposed to be back from his holidays this week?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Going back to the subject of this thread, wasn’t Bulut supposed to be back from his holidays this week?

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Send him back on his holidays!

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Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays

Send him back on his holidays!

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lets start a "go fund me" for his plane ticket

Chelsea are looking for a new manager. Surrpised Dalman, I mean Abbandanto, hasnt suggested it on Wales Online yet.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Let’s imagine for a moment that Erol Bulut was instead called Eric Buchanan and had managed four teams in the Scottish Premiership with varying degrees of success before arriving in Cardiff.

Let’s pretend that Eric and his team had just served up a season of mind-numbingly tedious, negative football before the manager was reported to have returned to his family in Edinburgh while contract negotiations for the 2024/25 season remained unresolved.

Let’s say someone had posted on here: “I'm praying Buchanan's flounced off back to Scotland, but knowing our knowledgeable lot they're probably doing everything possible to get him to stay and deliver his 'Jockball' for another season,” while another fan had posted under a Wales Online report: “Leave him in Scotland, we don’t want him back!”

What do you reckon the reaction would have been?

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There is a huge difference

There is a history of piss taking and reverence between us Taff's, Jocks Etc with regard to food , activity with sheep , being tight , posh English this and that

There is a different slant entirely to a lot of the apparently light hearted banter and comment with regard to Turkish, Spanish , Asian people etc

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Originally Posted by Garth Blue

You would have thought there would no reaction. But then again some self appointed social media vigilante would find issue. That's just the way they are.

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You know the difference between someone saying feck off back to Barnsley mick mccarthy you miserable Northern git ........Strachan you daft old Jock.......kinnock you Taffy windbag bugger off back to Wales

And go back to Turkey we don't want you here !

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

There is a huge difference

There is a history of piss taking and reverence between us Taff's, Jocks Etc with regard to food , activity with sheep , being tight , posh English this and that

There is a different slant entirely to a lot of the apparently light hearted banter and comment with regard to Turkish, Spanish , Asian people etc

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Youve obviosuly never had your haircut in a Turkish barber then.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Youve obviosuly never had your haircut in a Turkish barber then.

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Mick you miserable git naff off back to Yorkshire you useless git

Were you the subject of football banter from Cardiff fans or were you extremely hurt and did you think the taunts were borderline xenophobic?

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Let’s imagine for a moment that Erol Bulut was instead called Eric Buchanan and had managed four teams in the Scottish Premiership with varying degrees of success before arriving in Cardiff.

Let’s pretend that Eric and his team had just served up a season of mind-numbingly tedious, negative football before the manager was reported to have returned to his family in Edinburgh while contract negotiations for the 2024/25 season remained unresolved.

Let’s say someone had posted on here: “I'm praying Buchanan's flounced off back to Scotland, but knowing our knowledgeable lot they're probably doing everything possible to get him to stay and deliver his 'Jockball' for another season,” while another fan had posted under a Wales Online report: “Leave him in Scotland, we don’t want him back!”

What do you reckon the reaction would have been?

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Wont be long before the crusaders for all causes have such disgusting comments stopped.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

SweatySockist reported! …………….am I ok with ‘sweaty sock’?

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Nope. I have reported you to Greta.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

There is a huge difference

There is a history of piss taking and reverence between us Taff's, Jocks Etc with regard to food , activity with sheep , being tight , posh English this and that

There is a different slant entirely to a lot of the apparently light hearted banter and comment with regard to Turkish, Spanish , Asian people etc

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You are trying to protect the Spanish people from racism .....interesting.
I think you need to do a little more homework on this subject .

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

Wont be long before the crusaders for all causes have such disgusting comments stopped.

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Do you think when we get told to go back to Wales and you get told to go back to Scotland.....its the same as telling someone to feck off back to Turkey, Spain , Africa?

I don't think so

There is a fine line between banter and xenophobia

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

You are trying to protect the Spanish people from racism .....interesting.
I think you need to do a little more homework on this subject .

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Well that's a matter of debate

The history of the government's of countries and their actions is not a reason to think that English people support the rape and pillage of Africa or Spanish people today agree with the colonisation of South America

And if a society ....in your arguement Spain.....is less welcoming than say Britain or Holland doesn't mean that generic insults can be hurled towards Spanish, Italian or Greek people

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Do you think when we get told to go back to Wales and you get told to go back to Scotland.....its the same as telling someone to feck off back to Turkey, Spain , Africa?

I don't think so

There is a fine line between banter and xenophobia

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Depends on how well you know the subject or the context.
Do you really think its racist if I say go back to Turkey Bulut? Isn't that your problem how you perceive that , rather than my comments?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Well that's a matter of debate

The history of the government's of countries and their actions is not a reason to think that English people support the rape and pillage of Africa or Spanish people today agree with the colonisation of South America

And if a society ....in your arguement Spain.....is less welcoming than say Britain or Holland doesn't mean that generic insults can be hurled towards Spanish, Italian or Greek people

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It is more the racism shown by the people towards another race.
Perhaps you haven't heard about it?
Not saying two wrongs make a right .

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

Depends on how well you know the subject or the context.
Do you really think its racist if I say go back to Turkey Bulut? Isn't that your problem how you perceive that , rather than my comments?

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And it depends how you mean it when you say it

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

It is more the racism shown by the people towards another race.
Perhaps you haven't heard about it?
Not saying two wrongs make a right .

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Attacks on people in Spain from minority backgrounds by European Spanish people ?

I have heard about it in Spain and similar problems in Italy

But as you know that's a minority and doesn't mean that we brits can throw around stuff like wops and spicks .......the far end of things but the point is the same

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

Nope. I have reported you to Greta.

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After the worry I had for you when you relocated to the Gower for a while. You were very nearly Jimmy the Jack:hehe:

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

And it depends how you mean it when you say it

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Remember when you were happy for the unvaccinated to be separated off and forced to undertake forced Labour against their will , If I recall and despite your hatred for the current government you were quite happy to be a self appointed government deputy during this period im referring to.

What kind of ideology was that you were displaying. It’s hideous you were comfortable with it

. You could be inline with virtue signaller of the year in this thread 👊

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Do you think when we get told to go back to Wales and you get told to go back to Scotland.....its the same as telling someone to feck off back to Turkey, Spain , Africa?

I don't think so

There is a fine line between banter and xenophobia

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And Sludge will decide where that line should be drawn. It's what he does.

So does anyone actually know wtf is going on with Bulut?

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Originally Posted by Eddie Johnson

So does anyone actually know wtf is going on with Bulut?

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No, that's why we are being treated to a squabble about Bulut's nationality and alleged racism.
If we knew what is going on then we would be talking about it.

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Originally Posted by Eddie Johnson

So does anyone actually know wtf is going on with Bulut?

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Bulut is reading this thread and he’s not got a clue where to f*ck off to!!

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Bulut is reading this thread and he’s not got a clue where to f*ck off to!!

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He's probably worked out it's either Turkey or Germany....or could it be Greece?

I have just read through the 4 pages since yesterday just to see if there are any snippets, alas no. But I have one question and I am no shrinking violet growing up in Llanendeyrn and Cathays but WTH is "wogball"?

Never in my life of knowing some pretty unsavory characters have I ever heard that expression. Is it a thing?

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Remember when you were happy for the unvaccinated to be separated off and forced to undertake forced Labour against their will , If I recall and despite your hatred for the current government you were quite happy to be a self appointed government deputy during this period im referring to.

What kind of ideology was that you were displaying. It’s hideous you were comfortable with it

. You could be inline with virtue signaller of the year in this thread 👊

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It's called taking the piss out of you and your insane covid nonsense ideology

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Originally Posted by Garth Blue

And Sludge will decide where that line should be drawn. It's what he does.

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For the purpose of this thread that's absolutely correct

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Originally Posted by llan bluebird

I have just read through the 4 pages since yesterday just to see if there are any snippets, alas no. But I have one question and I am no shrinking violet growing up in Llanendeyrn and Cathays but WTH is "wogball"?

Never in my life of knowing some pretty unsavory characters have I ever heard that expression. Is it a thing?

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Apparently, it’s a regional derogatory Australian term for football. I Googled it earlier, as like you I’d never heard the phrase before reading it in this thread.

I think this thread should be added to the list of things we should blame bulut for if the decision lies with him ( and we do not know for definite it does) - this reminds me of a classroom in school when the teacher needs to unexpectedly nip out for a bit and "says carry on class" and all hell breaks loose

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Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep

I think this thread should be added to the list of things we should blame bulut for if the decision lies with him ( and we do not know for definite it does) - this reminds me of a classroom in school when the teacher needs to unexpectedly nip out for a bit and "says carry on class" and all hell breaks loose

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Can we just blame him for Sludge and be done with it?

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Originally Posted by Eddie Johnson

So does anyone actually know wtf is going on with Bulut?

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Stand off, he wants two years, Tan wants one, he'll be gone next week I would guess unless they agree a one-year extension if we reach the top six or something similar. He probably needs a target, we don't want someone just picking up a wage for two more years.