The Donald Trump thread

Trump doubling down on threat to annex Greenland.

Now saying NATO could be involved. He likes NATO now?

Grenlanders tell Trump to get lost!

https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/us-...nd-says-trump/

Everything else aside, it is staggering that the President of the USA openly talking about annexing a NATO territory is met by a collective shrug nowadays. The Canada talk is easier to shrug off, I don't think even he would invade Canada. But sending more and more soldiers to Greenland is something I can absolutely see him doing and I'm wondering at what point, if anybody, someone says no to him

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Everything else aside, it is staggering that the President of the USA openly talking about annexing a NATO territory is met by a collective shrug nowadays. The Canada talk is easier to shrug off, I don't think even he would invade Canada. But sending more and more soldiers to Greenland is something I can absolutely see him doing and I'm wondering at what point, if anybody, someone says no to him

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I just don't think people believe it. It's part of policy to disrupt and rearrange things. One assumes as part of some global thinking, but who knows.

Tbf I can see why people despair at the the shrugging of shoulders to some of Trump's tweets, but I do think people can overeact to them too. He will normally tweet something contradictory within 24 hours so just need to wait a little.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I just don't think people believe it. It's part of policy to disrupt and rearrange things. One assumes as part of some global thinking, but who knows.

Tbf I can see why people despair at the the shrugging of shoulders to some of Trump's tweets, but I do think people can overeact to them too. He will normally tweet something contradictory within 24 hours so just need to wait a little.

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I'm very sure that this is not how politicians and intelligence agencies in those and other countries see it.

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Originally Posted by lardy

I'm very sure that this is not how politicians and intelligence agencies in those and other countries see it.

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I'm sure you are right!

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Everything else aside, it is staggering that the President of the USA openly talking about annexing a NATO territory is met by a collective shrug nowadays. The Canada talk is easier to shrug off, I don't think even he would invade Canada. But sending more and more soldiers to Greenland is something I can absolutely see him doing and I'm wondering at what point, if anybody, someone says no to him

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It is shocking - impossible to imagine any previous US president in my lifetime conducting themselves in this way.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

It is shocking - impossible to imagine any previous US president in my lifetime conducting themselves in this way.

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Or indeed any lifetime since the origin of the USA itself. This is not a real President, it's a criminal and con man whose sold snake oil to the dumb masses.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

You'll still be able to wave your Palestine flag Jon, you'll still be able to call him a fascist if your mind changes, chill out!

This refers to pro Hamas incidents in universities. A small minority of them no doubt but you probably ignored them. But that almost certainly is what is being referred to here. There was nothing "inadvertent" about it.

I'm not sure using the houses you have won control of is the epitome of fascism that you think it is!

Jumpy? Yes, the world is uncertain, but the last decade or two have been pretty damned shit so I am no more jumpy than what has happened under the last US president!

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Strangely a lot of American Jewish people disagree with you and Donald Trump, James.

Intimidation, silencing of dissent, and misusing the law and state institutions to crush political opposition (and opposition to complicity in genocide) should not be dressed up as something it isn't. Good to see Trump Tower so busy, though!

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...rotest-leader/

Hundreds of activists with a Jewish peace group staged a sit-in at US President Donald Trump’s signature headquarters in New York on Thursday demanding the immediate release of Palestinian activist Mahmoud Khalil, Anadolu reports.

Chanting “Free Mahmoud, Free them all!” “We want justice, you say how? Bring Mahmoud home now!” and “Fight Nazis, not students!” protesters with the group Jewish Voice for Peace filled the Trump Tower lobby, voicing their opposition to the activist’s detention.

Many demonstrators wore red shirts emblazoned with the slogans “Not in our name” and “Stop arming Israel.”

Khalil, a green card holder and a recent Columbia University who helped organize campus protests last year, was arrested Saturday at his university-owned residence in what his lawyers said is a politically motivated deportation attempt by the Trump administration.

Campaigning last year to regain the presidency, Trump, behind closed doors, vowed to “throw out” pro-Palestinian foreign student protesters if he was elected, according to The Washington Post.

Khalil was arrested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents who claimed his student visa was revoked, even though he is a legal permanent resident and not in the US on a student visa. Agents then told him his green card was revoked.

He is married to a US citizen who is eight months pregnant. His wife condemned the arrest, saying she was “left wondering when Mahmoud will get a chance to call me.”

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Or indeed any lifetime since the origin of the USA itself. This is not a real President, it's a criminal and con man whose sold snake oil to the dumb masses.

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I'm not sure I agree with any president sine the origin of the USA - ok probably in his general demeanour etc but there have been expansionist US presidents before. They've been to war with Spain, Canada and Mexico previously with the intent on taking territory.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

I'm not sure I agree with any president sine the origin of the USA - ok probably in his general demeanour etc but there have been expansionist US presidents before. They've been to war with Spain, Canada and Mexico previously with the intent on taking territory.

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I can't see Trump starting WWW3 just to take over Benidorm.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I can't see Trump starting WWW3 just to take over Benidorm.

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He might over the Isle of Wight though.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I can't see Trump starting WWW3 just to take over Benidorm.

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neither can I, but he has repeatedly talked about annexing Greenland and Canada.

It's hard to see what his motivation is. In a couple of years he will no longer be president and he'll be a very old man. If they do manage to expand into the North, he won't really see any benefit from it.
I guess he wants to secure his legacy in the history books.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

neither can I, but he has repeatedly talked about annexing Greenland and Canada.

It's hard to see what his motivation is. In a couple of years he will no longer be president and he'll be a very old man. If they do manage to expand into the North, he won't really see any benefit from it.
I guess he wants to secure his legacy in the history books.

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It all depends on who he's working for.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

It all depends on who he's working for.

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So who do you claim he is working for? I am almost interested in your answer.

My answer FWIW is Donald Trump is working for Donald Trump. What's yours?

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Originally Posted by jon1959

So who do you claim he is working for? I am almost interested in your answer.

My answer FWIW is Donald Trump is working for Donald Trump. What's yours?

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Trump has always worked only for Trump (and whomsoever has leverage on him, and currently Putin sits in the driver's seat)

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Originally Posted by jon1959

So who do you claim he is working for? I am almost interested in your answer.

My answer FWIW is Donald Trump is working for Donald Trump. What's yours?

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WEF it’s been this way for 10 years according to gluey. Founders must be dead or in tier 90s by now

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Originally Posted by jon1959

So who do you claim he is working for? I am almost interested in your answer.

My answer FWIW is Donald Trump is working for Donald Trump. What's yours?

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This is usually the point where Gluey makes his excuses and leaves the conversation or goes all cryptic.

I’m sure your answer is right by the way.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

This is usually the point where Gluey makes his excuses and leaves the conversation or goes all cryptic.

I’m sure your answer is right by the way.

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I'm not holding my breath. :hehe:

Whilst everyone is talking about Trump we seem to have missed that Canadas new Prime Minister isn't even an elected MP.

Bad look that is.

Yesterday, NATO Secretary General, Mark Rutte, was in Washington meeting with Trump.

Today, Rutte is now confirming that NATO membership for Ukraine is off the table, and that relations with Russia need to be normalized post-war.

I don’t know what Trump told Rutte behind closed doors, but based on Rutte’s comments today, it appears he has accepted that Trump holds all the cards. NATO officials are beginning to accept their fate that this conflict is soon going to be over and the money laundering operation is done.

Granted, Rutte is still a slimy Soros-owned politician, but it appears even he knows when he is beaten. Trump is dictating the terms for the agreement between Russia and Ukraine, and there’s nothing EU/NATO officials can do about it.

This might seem small, but Rutte admitting Ukraine membership is off the table, is a MASSIVE step towards ending this war.

Nobel peace prize incoming, what was Biden doing for three years?

Stolen from Twitter !!!!

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Yesterday, NATO Secretary General, Mark Rutte, was in Washington meeting with Trump.

Today, Rutte is now confirming that NATO membership for Ukraine is off the table, and that relations with Russia need to be normalized post-war.

I don’t know what Trump told Rutte behind closed doors, but based on Rutte’s comments today, it appears he has accepted that Trump holds all the cards. NATO officials are beginning to accept their fate that this conflict is soon going to be over and the money laundering operation is done.

Granted, Rutte is still a slimy Soros-owned politician, but it appears even he knows when he is beaten. Trump is dictating the terms for the agreement between Russia and Ukraine, and there’s nothing EU/NATO officials can do about it.

This might seem small, but Rutte admitting Ukraine membership is off the table, is a MASSIVE step towards ending this war.

Nobel peace prize incoming, what was Biden doing for three years?

Stolen from Twitter !!!!

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I was listening to the press conference between the two of them on Times Radio yesterday. They both clearly are on a similar page and get on.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Whilst everyone is talking about Trump we seem to have missed that Canadas new Prime Minister isn't even an elected MP.

Bad look that is.

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Er, this is the Donald Trump thread.

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Yesterday, NATO Secretary General, Mark Rutte, was in Washington meeting with Trump.

Today, Rutte is now confirming that NATO membership for Ukraine is off the table, and that relations with Russia need to be normalized post-war.

I don’t know what Trump told Rutte behind closed doors, but based on Rutte’s comments today, it appears he has accepted that Trump holds all the cards. NATO officials are beginning to accept their fate that this conflict is soon going to be over and the money laundering operation is done.

Granted, Rutte is still a slimy Soros-owned politician, but it appears even he knows when he is beaten. Trump is dictating the terms for the agreement between Russia and Ukraine, and there’s nothing EU/NATO officials can do about it.

This might seem small, but Rutte admitting Ukraine membership is off the table, is a MASSIVE step towards ending this war.

Nobel peace prize incoming, what was Biden doing for three years?

Stolen from Twitter !!!!

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Doesn’t it all depend on what Putin tells Trump to do next?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Er, this is the Donald Trump thread.

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Well I know. I'm just saying, its passed under the radar.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Well I know. I'm just saying, its passed under the radar.

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Well start a Mark Carney thread then.