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Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
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Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
Truth? I'm pretty certain what you wrote here isnt part of the Wikipedia entry on Israel. Did you mean Judaism when you said "obscure tribes supernatural belief"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
"Israel is utter filth, it's self serving and myopic. It's heedless, unconcerned about the rest of the world and barbaric in it's bullying aggression, safe in it's knowledge that it's gross inhumanity will always be supported by it's Superpower sponsor.
We might shortly have a nuclear World War on our hands. The question is, whether the protection of an obscure tribe's supernatural beliefs are dominant over the utterly horrific destruction of innocents just craving to eke out a simple physical existence!"
Please don't be a naive apologist for genocide and opportunistic expansionism merely because you feel some races are more superior to others.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
It’s not my job to call out all the shocking posts. Dorcus was very specific in referring to Israel and whilst it wouldn’t be my chosen language I suggest you take that up with him directly. Truthpaste referred to ‘Islamic Nations’. They weren’t specific. That suggests Islamophobia. Probably not. But again, not sure why you’re involved in this as Truthpaste is perfectly capable of responding himself. Truthpaste has form of being pro-Israeli so perhaps I feel it right to question. I made it clear I have no wish to debate with you any longer James so I’ll just ignore any direct replies and we can save ourselves a lot of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
October 7 was disgraceful and never should be forgotten, but in the intervening year, Israel, or at least its Government, have lost the right to be treated as if they’re on a higher moral plane than the Hamas terrorists - they no longer deserve the support they get from the likes of the USA and the UK, if they ever did.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
No it's not, and in fairness maybe you didn't see it, but it seems you did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew
And you did call out the ironic "islamic nations being hellbent on peace" comment when Israel is surrounded by at least two which don't seem to want peace, so there is some truth in that.
Whereas describing Judaism as "an obscure tribe's supernatural belief" and the country as "utter filth" does seem a far far lower bar if you are gonna call things out.
Dorcus has replied and seemingly sees no issue with what is probably the most racist statement I've read on here since that idiot was talking about the Nazis a year or so ago.
Sorry, the inconsistency just stood out like a sore thumb when I read that. 👍
And still you continue your ad hominem attacks because there is no substance to you. You are just a mouthpiece for right wing filth.
It's so ironic that you are the idiot with your perverse views and it's got to the stage, as out friend Citizen has illustrated, that few wish to engage with you. Your views are pathetic!
Ironically you were talking about your superior IQ on another thread but clearly Latin isn't your thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Calling out someone making what seems a pretty racist statement ISN'T an ad honinem attack.
However, calling someone an idiot with perverse views for doing so IS one.
It's fine to criticise Israel, no one disputes it. To label Judaism/Jews an obscure tribes supernatural belief and Israel as utter filth is quite another.
Other websites would have kicked you off immediately. Stop digging!
War Pigs
The lot of them
A plague on all their houses but Netanyahu is an absolute madman
He's a zionist as are his harem
The Israeli Ambassador to the UK is a raving lunatic
The army spokesman .....complete fruitcake
Everyone worldwide is saying negotiation and diplomacy is the only route to reduce the bloodshed......not end it ....the extremists on opposing sides are completely potty
But Israel knows best blah blah blah
Bombing the christ out of the Lebanon isn't going to bring back the hostages although he's going to come out with some nonsense when things die down a bit
I am surprised Netanyahu hasn't been taken out by his own people
He's insane
Jim Bob you're a figure of fun! Firstly you get posters mixed up. I've never made any reference to mu "Superior" IQ; mine is only sufficient to enable me to accomplish the most basic of everyday tasks...thank the Lord! Who are you thinking about I wonder?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
No I'm no Oxford Don in Latin but I know enough about the subject to identify an ad hominem attack when a poster types "Dorcus' post was the most racist since the IDIOT posted Nazi references..." Sorry, I paraphrase. You are bang to rights and I only responded in kind! One of my pet hates is an ad hominem attack which usually happens when the abuser is devoid of a cogent argument.
Your feeble attempt at flagging up "racism" is risible! I was using synecdoche in the use of the word Israel. I was obviously referring to the Israeli government which you have already conceded is open to criticism. In no way was I referring to the Israeli people, many of whom deplore their Government's genocidal ambitions. Many are declaring "not in my name" and more strength to their elbow!
Lastly, isn't it about time you grew up? I thought you were over 40 years of age and you are still not paying higher tax!!! What on Earth drives your right wing obsession? For your information a "supernatural belief by an obscure tribe" is the fundamental definition of religion. I have absolutely no problem with any religion as long as it's manages properly and certainly not with Judaism. I believe everyone should have the freedom to believe whatever they want as long as it doesn't manifest in secular politics and affairs.
By the way if this were my forum you would be banned sine die for your offensive views. Maybe it's time to start reflecting on where your life is going.
I'll take this word salad as acknowledgement that saying things like "Israel is utter filth" and (seeming) to refer to Judaism as an "obscure tribe's supernatural beliefs" is at best extremely offensive, at worst extremely antisemitic. There's little doubt in my mind that if you handed out leaflets saying that then you would likely be arrested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
It's also the kind of language that when multiplied by millions of people across the world making such comments only extends wars.
Like I said, took you a couple of posts, but I'll take that as an acknowledgement.
I'll leave your creepy personal comments as they are.
You don't half talk a load of bollo**s! Your level of misunderstanding is extraordinary. I can understand why you're not on a higher rate of tax!Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Stop digging you weirdo!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
You are a dangerous nutcase! Are you on the dole?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
i hope you are not implying he is the recipient of a welsh education and therefore unemployableQuote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Racist, reported!Quote:
Originally Posted by + the native hipster
Anyone else think we are now heading in to a war with Iran? Guess Israel already are and after the “news” yesterday about the amount of Iran backed plots taken out here last few years I get the feeling the west will now think it’s now or never to finally rid the Middle East of the Iranian regime…..haven’t a clue how this will pan out but with the Saudis no doubt heavily involved too I can see this carnage taking place sooner rather than later. Fill your fuel tanks up eh? Or go electric
We? = UK & USA maybe. Israel more likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Also, we may have more than fuel tanks and our standard of living to think about by the time the dust settles on all this.
This article makes disturbing reading but I suspect it might be what the IDF has indeed been planning all along. Surrender or starve...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e82yy0wxno
This has to be against all laws,but not gods chosen people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
Yahya Sunwar, leader of Hamas is dead. Hopefully this may change something.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cy94zdd0nxlt
The good Lord will save us…don’t worry!Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
Fecking Israelis
Today after the killing of the hamas leader in gaza ....clearly a dangerous man whatever side of the conflict you generally side with.......they announced his death to people sunbathing on the beaches , in cafes , in their homes .....all cheering to wild abandon
What do they think this will lead to ?
About another 100 suicide bombers or terrorists I would imagine
Then another shocking massacre again of innocent young Israelis at a music festival 🙄
And they can avenge that by killing whoever is responsible, they can " announce " how great their secret services , mossad and army are .....everyone can have a cheer for Israel
And more bloodshed will follow
A plague on all of their houses
What ? Are you jokingQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
This will lead to more October 7th massacres
Good.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Fingers crossed Netanyahu is next.
Pair of cuunts.
I wonder if he will ever get assassinated?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
He must live in an iron suit
Well you don't know that. The death of a tyrannical sicko that likes to murder people at music festivals and holds his own population under guard isn't always a bad thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Fingers crossed eh 🤞
You are as deluded as the IsraelisQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
As for tyrannical sickos .....wtf is Netanyahu?
He's another Adolf Hitler with the middle east his theatre of war
Absolute murdering cttt
100% certainty! And sooner or later Iran will say enough is enough and respond with force. The problem they've got is the USA will always act as Israel's big brother. Therefore the genocide is likely to continue indefinitely. Netanyahu's driving conviction is "make hay when the sun shines".Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I absolutely do know that there will be more titles for tat atrocities in the middle east, I will bet my house on itQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Bomb the crap into the occupied territories over decades , annoy the tiger in the cage .....snap ....October 7th
I will bet you in very little time the Palestinians will have their revenge for this assasination
A short cease fire might happen but they will all be at it again soon
With nutcases like your Netanyahu on side stoking the fires it's a sure fire bet 🔥
You are deluded talking war games in a situation that will never ever end
⬆️ bizarre reaction to the leader of Hamas being killed. It's not as if the situation was peaceful whilst he was around
How do you think the killing of a terrorist ....or freedom fighter some might say .....by a leader who doesn't want Palestinians given a home .....will lead to some sort of compromise?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
It's just going to create many more martyrs and more attacks by extremists on people at musical festivals
It might not happen this year but it will happen
If the murderous cuunt got topped in the next few weeks there really could be an opportunity for change in the region.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I've held the view for years that the Likud Party and it's other zionist parties need Hamas and vice versa.
Likud need Hamas as an excuse to create a Greater Israel. If they are allowed to pursue their clandestine aims by the appeasing West, Netanyahu might eventually annexe Lebanon, Syria and Jordan. Who knows, with US backing they might consider Iran fair game for conquest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
It is a worry they think every thing they do is right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
I love how the man who cannot talk about the main centre-right party in the UK without labelling people scum is all "one mans terrorist is another man's freedom fighter!" when it comes to the murderous freak Sinwar. Of course, that sentiment is correct but Christ alive you are inconsistent!Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
You had a bit of a rant at me last night for hoping his death may prove a turning point...but that is pretty much what Harris, Biden and Starmer have said so it doesn't seem unreasonable to me
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...eath-reactions
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...easefire-calls
https://www.gbnews.com/politics/poli...ive-leadership
You are incredibly naive. After the murder of this man Sinwar many many more will rise up to take his place. The loss of life in the Middle East will only rise significantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
There are some who feel that Israeli government's have funded Hamas to maintain an environment that allows them to strengthen opinion to pursue their own aims of Greater Israel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
That assumes that every war is perpetual and never had turning points. And that isn't true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
There's no nativity. It could be a turning point.
Think you meant to post this in the conspiracy theory thread? It is a great example of a left-wing one btw, which some denied existed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé