-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
You should only wear the football top of your era.......I’m currently on the settee in a chocolate & amber number.
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
splott parker
You should only wear the football top of your era.......I’m currently on the settee in a chocolate & amber number.
That sounds so very wrong.
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Citizen's Nephew
It can't be overestimated just how much our violent fan base had in alienating CCFC in the city though. It was massive. We were a nightmare and disliked. This has been hard to shrug off but it's happening. I speak to cabbies who still think we kick the sh*t out of each other on a Saturday!
I agree, it was a nightmare, it was bloody good fun though :xmasthumbup:
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
stan butler
Back in the 80s and 90s i remember City having a very good following from the Docks , Ely and Llanrumney area's.
Do these places still have a big interest in watching the city?
What other parts of Cardiff follow us in good numbers?
We Llanrumney boys was always there still are..
Fight anyone .
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Citizen's Nephew
It can't be overestimated just how much our violent fan base had in alienating CCFC in the city though. It was massive. During the 80's the old Cardiff Rugby Club was well supported and was felt like a 'safe' place to go for anyone. You could only get international rugby tickets if you were a member of a club (in fact when I was a nipper most people who went to the rugby were members or played). We were a nightmare and disliked. This has been hard to shrug off but it's happening. I speak to cabbies who still think we kick the sh*t out of each other on a Saturday!
Like alluded to at the start of this thread, those nutters seemed to be our main core of support when I started going, 1987 time. Large gangs from different suburbs ( the docks, Ely, llanrumney, llanishen, Whitchurch ) and lots of trouble as a result. A lot of this agro disappeared in the rave years replacing the huge gang fights that regularly used to take place on the weekend in town at 2am.
I think our fan base has widened around wales since but not so much in the capital itself. Being quite cosmopolitan and having lots of students, English folk and Europeans maybe there’s no natural instinct to go and follow us.
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
insider
Being from CF5 here's my take on it.
In Cardiff we have a City divided by sport football and rugby.
I'm obviously football and find as soon as you go over Canton bridge into town as a Cardiff City fan there are many places you are not welcome ridiculous in your own city.
Also I think many, not all, Cardiff blues/Rugby fans hate us so won't cross the divide and so it's easier to be a plastic Manu or Liverpool fan.
We've always had a decent support from Ely and some of the older heads I know say when we were really shit Cardiff was the predominant support for the club.
Well my experience , especially away from home in the first time in the old fourth division that for many trips we would have about 250 away fans and 3 coaches , about 150 , would come from Bridgend , Barry and Pontypridd
Two coaches were run by Mike Lambert , originally from Aberdare then Bridgend , Mike Pearce from Barry and the third coach was valleys run by roy and mair daniel from Pontypridd.
And these coaches would all meet at ninian Park and they would be full of fans from outside Cardiff before they got there
For most of the games that was it , about 3 coaches , most of the people on them from outside Cardiff. On our coach we would often have a group of lads from port Talbot and Porthcawl.
I think it's fair to say our away fans then , as now we're very loyal to ccfc and most of them were not from Cardiff
There are loyal fans from Cardiff it's just that as with our crowds, there are not enough of them . Far too many people from this part of the world find excuses not to get behind CCFC . Tony Clemo might not have been everybody's favourite chairman but he said as much many years ago .
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
goats
Like alluded to at the start of this thread, those nutters seemed to be our main core of support when I started going, 1987 time. Large gangs from different suburbs ( the docks, Ely, llanrumney, llanishen, Whitchurch ) and lots of trouble as a result. A lot of this agro disappeared in the rave years replacing the huge gang fights that regularly used to take place on the weekend in town at 2am.
I think our fan base has widened around wales since but not so much in the capital itself. Being quite cosmopolitan and having lots of students, English folk and Europeans maybe there’s no natural instinct to go and follow us.
My young life was connected to so much conflict , in the playground, streets, between estates, football , police ,school it was everywhere, we go to the City games in groups looking for a rubble with anyone??
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
life on mars
My young life was connected to so much conflict , in the playground, streets, between estates, football , police ,school it was everywhere, we go to the City games in groups looking for a rubble with anyone??
Rubble... Barney...Rhyming Slang?
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
Rubble... Barney...Rhyming Slang?
Betty never!
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
The Bloop
Is this you looking in the mirror just before leaving the house on a matchday
Edit - just remembered that you're in your 60s
I have many problems but I don't wear football shirts as match-going apparel, old fruit :-)
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
life on mars
My young life was connected to so much conflict , in the playground, streets, between estates, football , police ,school it was everywhere, we go to the City games in groups looking for a rubble with anyone??
Didn't anyone cut you any slack? Or were you hard core? It must have taken some grit.
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
life on mars
My young life was connected to so much conflict , in the playground, streets, between estates, football , police ,school it was everywhere, we go to the City games in groups looking for a rubble with anyone??
“Stone me” as Anthony Aloysius would say:xmashehe:
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
goats
Like alluded to at the start of this thread, those nutters seemed to be our main core of support when I started going, 1987 time. Large gangs from different suburbs ( the docks, Ely, llanrumney, llanishen, Whitchurch ) and lots of trouble as a result. A lot of this agro disappeared in the rave years replacing the huge gang fights that regularly used to take place on the weekend in town at 2am.
I think our fan base has widened around wales since but not so much in the capital itself. Being quite cosmopolitan and having lots of students, English folk and Europeans maybe there’s no natural instinct to go and follow us.
I think it's really interesting and we all have different experiences. Reading the thread and seeing the vid that Tuerto posted, Sludges comments, and my own experience living where I do, there are a few things that have sprung to mind.
For me, following The City has always been about it being Cardiff but maybe that dynamic has/is changing a lot. What am I trying to say? When I go to watch Wales, then that's Welsh football for me. When I go and watch the Cymru Premier, that's Welsh football too. When I go and watch us, it's Cardiff (this is my personal feeling I'm not trying to say it's right or wrong). I had a discussion recently about this (can't remember the thread) and it got a bit confused becasue I raised this issue of us playing in the EFL. I know the history and everything but do people think that this has become more confusing as the years have gone on (not suggesting I want us to be out of the EFL I'm just raising issues of identity here). There are lots of English people I've spoken to or taken to matches over the years who have been put off by anti-English chants or even the 'Welshness' of our club and didn't feel connected.
I'm not trying to stir anything up but I do think we are a confusing club for a lot of football people and wonder if this is a good or bad thing? I think for a lot of support outside of the city it's about a Welsh club, in the city, there's probably a mix (as I said, I never really feel connected as a Welsh club but that's just me). I'm just chucking this stuff out there as part of the discussion not to start any arguments. I find it interesting.
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Not seen that before….:xmasayatollah:
Not sure what sludge is on about with regard to away games, lots of cardiff boys always there we usually went in the train. Hardly ever in a coach….that was for old people:xmashehe:
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
goats
lots of cardiff boys always there we usually went in the train. Hardly ever in a coach….that was for old people:xmashehe:
Train was were it was at :xmasthumbup: 1st train out of central, always gave you plenty of time to get anywhere for a 3pm KO
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Citizen's Nephew
I think it's really interesting and we all have different experiences. Reading the thread and seeing the vid that Tuerto posted, Sludges comments, and my own experience living where I do, there are a few things that have sprung to mind.
For me, following The City has always been about it being Cardiff but maybe that dynamic has/is changing a lot. What am I trying to say? When I go to watch Wales, then that's Welsh football for me. When I go and watch the Cymru Premier, that's Welsh football too. When I go and watch us, it's Cardiff (this is my personal feeling I'm not trying to say it's right or wrong). I had a discussion recently about this (can't remember the thread) and it got a bit confused becasue I raised this issue of us playing in the EFL. I know the history and everything but do people think that this has become more confusing as the years have gone on (not suggesting I want us to be out of the EFL I'm just raising issues of identity here). There are lots of English people I've spoken to or taken to matches over the years who have been put off by anti-English chants or even the 'Welshness' of our club and didn't feel connected.
I'm not trying to stir anything up but I do think we are a confusing club for a lot of football people and wonder if this is a good or bad thing? I think for a lot of support outside of the city it's about a Welsh club, in the city, there's probably a mix (as I said, I never really feel connected as a Welsh club but that's just me). I'm just chucking this stuff out there as part of the discussion not to start any arguments. I find it interesting.
English mates of mine from college days loved coming to watch Cardiff with me up north
They were all fans of the big clubs and actually went to watch them but said watching cardiff was a bizarre experience and they loved it
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
goats
Not seen that before….:xmasayatollah:
Not sure what sludge is on about with regard to away games, lots of cardiff boys always there we usually went in the train. Hardly ever in a coach….that was for old people:xmashehe:
Not up north in places like Rochdale, Bury , Doncaster
A few might have gone by train but most fans went by coach
Apart from the bigger games our following was only a couple of hundred in the dungeon
Of course we would take loads to Hereford or a big cup game by train but for normal games we would have about 20 or 30 on the train and I know that because I was living up north at the time and travelled by train and would join the escort to get back to the station
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
blue matt
Train was were it was at :xmasthumbup: 1st train out of central, always gave you plenty of time to get anywhere for a 3pm KO
Train was fine for Hereford or Exeter but when we had 250 up at Rotherham to get trounced 3 nil there certainly were not loads on the train
We played Bury on a Saturday in 1989 , May , took mates from college , there were 300 there if we were being kind , coaches , cars and minibuses , 50 on the train ? .....I Dont remember a big escort back to Manchester Victoria Station
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
London has 6 EPL clubs. 3 of them are amongst the biggest clubs in the country and the 4th is not too far behind. How many Brentford, QPR, Orient or Wimbledon fans have you met?
I should have been clearer, I meant people from other parts of the UK that have moved to London - which is the majority of people I know in London generally.
But in terms of the London clubs you’ve named, I’ve met an Orient and a QPR fan. No Wimbledon, I worked with someone that was from there but followed Brighton (family). I had family here that followed Brentford but don’t think that counts.
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Well my experience , especially away from home in the first time in the old fourth division that for many trips we would have about 250 away fans and 3 coaches , about 150 , would come from Bridgend , Barry and Pontypridd
Two coaches were run by Mike Lambert , originally from Aberdare then Bridgend , Mike Pearce from Barry and the third coach was valleys run by roy and mair daniel from Pontypridd.
And these coaches would all meet at ninian Park and they would be full of fans from outside Cardiff before they got there
For most of the games that was it , about 3 coaches , most of the people on them from outside Cardiff. On our coach we would often have a group of lads from port Talbot and Porthcawl.
I think it's fair to say our away fans then , as now we're very loyal to ccfc and most of them were not from Cardiff
There are loyal fans from Cardiff it's just that as with our crowds, there are not enough of them . Far too many people from this part of the world find excuses not to get behind CCFC . Tony Clemo might not have been everybody's favourite chairman but he said as much many years ago .
Mike Pearce!!!! Haven't heard of him for absolutely years. Anyone know how he's doing in Scotland?
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Not up north in places like Rochdale, Bury , Doncaster
A few might have gone by train but most fans went by coach
Apart from the bigger games our following was only a couple of hundred in the dungeon
Of course we would take loads to Hereford or a big cup game by train but for normal games we would have about 20 or 30 on the train and I know that because I was living up north at the time and travelled by train and would join the escort to get back to the station
Up north is always different, I dont think we took loads ever. Coaches are easier but I recall going on them to places like Blackpool, Peterborough, tranmere…..
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
az city
Mike Pearce!!!! Haven't heard of him for absolutely years. Anyone know how he's doing in Scotland?
I don't even know if he is still with us ?
Mike Lambert is in the far East, swigging cocktails I believe
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
The other board always suggest in various threads that the City took many more than the 200 suggested above to places like Hartlepool, Bury in the dungeon years, etc etc. Is this just their imagination?
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
goats
Up north is always different, I dont think we took loads ever. Coaches are easier but I recall going on them to places like Blackpool, Peterborough, tranmere…..
Blackpool , bedlam up there , even before CCFC turned up , then it got worse
-
Re: City support from the Cardiff area's?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Stanmore Bluebird
The other board always suggest in various threads that the City took many more than the 200 suggested above to places like Hartlepool, Bury in the dungeon years, etc etc. Is this just their imagination?
Yes
We took about 600 to our first away in the old fourth to hartlepool but it soon dwindled
In 1986 I was living in Manchester, went to see CCFC v Bury and we had no more than 150 fans
In the late eighties we got relegated at Bury , losing 2 nil and took 2000 fans but it was a do or die game and of course any fairly big club would take a decent support , Bristol Rovers , Plymouth , Stoke etc
We could always get big support for the important games but this idea we were followed by thousands away week in week out is a myth
We played Scarborough in April 1993 in our promotion season . We took 500 .
But a week later played the league leaders York in a crunch match so we had 2000 there
Like our home support our away support has always been up and down
That was then however , it's excellent now