Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200
You were only 88 chart spots out.
In fact, Morrissey's new album went straight into the official Billboard 200 album chart at number 95. That means California Son has currently achieved his worst-ever album chart placing in the USA. A new album by the Stray Cats sold more last week.
Morrissey's quickly dropped to number 33 in the UK albums chart too.
Former-Longpigs guitarist Richard Hawley's new album entered the UK album charts at number 3 this week - a higher placing than Morrissey achieved last week. I think that speaks volumes.
I did not know he was in the longpigs
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Rjk
I did not know he was in the longpigs
Yes, and Pulp for a short while. I reckon the fact that he's currently out-selling Morrissey puts some of the claims made in this thread to bed.
Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200
You were only 88 chart spots out.
In fact, Morrissey's new album went straight into the official Billboard 200 album chart at number 95. That means California Son has currently achieved his worst-ever album chart placing in the USA. A new album by the Stray Cats sold more last week.
Morrissey's quickly dropped to number 33 in the UK albums chart too.
Former-Longpigs guitarist Richard Hawley's new album entered the UK album charts at number 3 this week - a higher placing than Morrissey achieved last week. I think that speaks volumes.
No, you're wrong, it went into the charts at #7 on June 8th, meaning it's his MOST successful US album. You are The Quarry, Years of Refusal & Low in High School all getting to #11. It has gone down to #95 as you say, but for him to be getting a top 10 US album after all this time solidifies my point.
He's currently #58 in hottest artists on Billboard above the likes of The Beatles, Beyonce, Rihanna, Lewis Capaldi (who no one shuts up about at the moment), Kendrick Lamar and so much more.
Seems you don't know what you're on about mate, try being less patronising in the future to save yourself embarrassment.
Done with you now, tara.
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Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Baker
No, you're wrong, it went into the charts at #7 on June 8th, meaning it's his MOST successful US album. You are The Quarry, Years of Refusal & Low in High School all getting to #11. It has gone down to #95 as you say, but for him to be getting a top 10 US album after all this time solidifies my point.
He's currently #58 in hottest artists on Billboard above the likes of The Beatles, Beyonce, Rihanna, Lewis Capaldi (who no one shuts up about at the moment), Kendrick Lamar and so much more.
Seems you don't know what you're on about mate, try being less patronising in the future to save yourself embarrassment.
Done with you now, tara.
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Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
Baker
No, you're wrong, it went into the charts at #7 on June 8th, meaning it's his MOST successful US album.
So are you saying that Billboard's own website is wrong?
Here it is:
https://www.billboard.com/charts
Here's the Billboard 200 album chart:
https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200
Scroll down to number 95 and you'll find Morrissey listed as a new entry.
Morrissey wasn't on the chart last week. I checked and posted the link on here.
Are you also claiming that Mozzer2 can see into the future? After all, he suggested that the album had entered the Billboard chart at number 7 on 03/6, but you're saying it did so on 08/06 (contrary to Billboard's own website).
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Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
So are you saying that Billboard's own website is wrong?
Here it is:
https://www.billboard.com/charts
Here's the Billboard 200 album chart:
https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200
Scroll down to number 95 and you'll find Morrissey listed as a
new entry.
Morrissey wasn't on the chart last week. I checked and posted the link on here.
Are you also claiming that Mozzer2 can see into the future? After all, he suggested that the album had entered the Billboard chart at number 7 on 03/6, but you're saying it did so on 08/06 (contrary to Billboard's own website).
All of my stats are from Billboard.
If you looked properly you'd see that too.
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Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
Baker
All of my stats are from Billboard.
If you looked properly you'd see that too.
You know that the Billboard 200 is universally recognised as the 'official' US album chart, right?
A quick look at yer man's discography on Wiki tells the story:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrissey_discography
As does the entry for the album in question:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Son
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It's good to see folk getting on in this world of nastiness , may your gods and Morrisey be with you .
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Croesy Blue
I honestly don't know what that refers to. They appear to have charts within charts. However, what I am 100% certain of is that the Billboard 200 is the US top 200 album chart across all genres and music platforms, and always has been.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_200
Re: Morrissey's New Album
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life on mars
It's good to see folk getting on in this world of nastiness , may your gods and Morrisey be with you .
You can have him with you if that's OK. I don't want him.
:thumbup:
Re: Morrissey's New Album
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The Lone Gunman
You can have him with you if that's OK. I don't want him.
:thumbup:
Really? You haven't come across that way. Just let people enjoy the music they want to enjoy and move on.
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Can't we just talk about Johnny Marr? Far less controversial.
Re: Morrissey's New Album
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The Lone Gunman
You can have him with you if that's OK. I don't want him.
:thumbup:
I'd rather hang with Gibby of the Buttholes, he makes much more sense 😉
Re: Morrissey's New Album
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NYCBlue
Can't we just talk about Johnny Marr? Far less controversial.
Johnny's son, Nile, is a lovely lad. I spent half an hour with him a few weeks ago at Bristol's Dot To Dot festival. Saw him play quite a few times between 2012 and 2016. Nile's spent the last couple of years working with Hans Zimmer but is playing with his own band again now. Really nice guy, very grounded.
Re: Morrissey's New Album
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NYCBlue
Can't we just talk about Johnny Marr? Far less controversial.
Does he dye his hair?
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Tuerto
Does he dye his hair?
It's jet black with a white streak, so I'm going to say yes on that one.
Re: Morrissey's New Album
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NYCBlue
Can't we just talk about Johnny Marr? Far less controversial.
Nothing without Morrissey.
Morrissey nothing without Marr...initially.
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The Bob Banker Spanker
Nothing without Morrissey.
Morrissey nothing without Marr...initially.
You should have a look at Marr's discography. Johnny Marr is unstoppable as a musician and would have made it with or without Morrissey. Morrissey might still be up in his bedroom if it wasn't for Johnny Marr.
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NYCBlue
You should have a look at Marr's discography. Johnny Marr is unstoppable as a musician and would have made it with or without Morrissey. Morrissey might still be up in his bedroom if it wasn't for Johnny Marr.
That’s why I said initially.
There’s no doubting who’s been far more successful since The Smiths broke up.
And the break up was down to Marr, no?
Re: Morrissey's New Album
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The Bob Banker Spanker
That’s why I said initially.
There’s no doubting who’s been far more successful since The Smiths broke up.
And the break up was down to Marr, no?
I think it's more complicated than that. I think Morrissey and Marr were going in different directions. I'm sure Morrissey saw it coming. He started recording Viva Hate pretty much as soon as Strangeways came out.
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if we're talking the smiths let's go the whole hog and let's not forget the rhythm section either .Andy Rourke the best bass player the UK has produced since the 80;s !.
Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
You should have a look at Marr's discography. Johnny Marr is unstoppable as a musician and would have made it with or without Morrissey. Morrissey might still be up in his bedroom if it wasn't for Johnny Marr.
If you think Marr was going to make it no matter what, why wouldn't you think Morrissey wouldn't? :hehe:
The Smiths would be nothing without Moz's lyrics, and they'd be nothing without Marr's guitar. There's no question who's had a better career, though! I love Johnny Marr though, he is far less controversial without a doubt, but if you read his book he literally says the way Morrissey handled the press in early outset is one of the fundamental reasons they were so different to everyone else on the scene.
Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
The Bob Banker Spanker
That’s why I said initially.
There’s no doubting who’s been far more successful since The Smiths broke up.
And the break up was down to Marr, no?
Marr decided to stop it yeah. I think Strangeways was them finding their groove to the extent they all outlived the band. Rourke obviously had his issues whilst Joyce pretended to contribute in the background. Listen to A Rush and a Push and you could see they were starting to go in a completely new direction. They came close to reforming in roughly 2008ish when Marr and Moz met in a pub for a catch up after about 10 years. Marr was up for it but Moz never got back to him (according to Marr).