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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi

Are you seriously asking me why a pervert would bother going into a womens toilet?

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why has society evolved that men and women need separate toilets? i may be mistaken but generally both sexes use a toilet for the same purpose.

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

The right to dispose of my sanitry products, change clothing, change my childs nappy ect in the PRIVACY of other women.

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Don't they have bins in the cubicles for your sanitary stuff?

Are women often changing clothing in the toilets?

Nappy changes - I've always used the child's nappy changing room for this.

As for the "Irony" comment. Not sure where I've resorted to character assassination to win an argument here, although I do get a lot of provocation so I may have lapsed at some stage.

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Originally Posted by Vimana.

Of course.
Though, in a toilet, it is not easy to tell. is it.

Do you want people to wear badges? Of course you don't.
So, the point , as I understand, that a couple of posters made is that, it is hard to tell. And they are not nesessarily comfortable about that.
Is that wrong? I don't think it is, is it?

As far as I am concerned, for whatever my opinion is worth, I don't have any issue with a Transgender sharing my 'toilet space', but frankly I'm not so keen on trannies riding on the coat-tails (oops!) of that, not that I care, but it causes potential confusion for the very, very, many that do mind.
Where are those peoples rights?


It IS a valid point for people to ask how anybody would tell a TG (effectively same-sex) from a Transvestite (opposite sex).

People do have rights to say that they don't want something foisted on them.
When did that stop?

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ur a biget

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Originally Posted by goslow

Then you're not an immigrant are you .

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second generation immigrant so technically yes and no

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

Why does it bother you so much? It doesn't affect you or your life.[/QUOt


It does when they want the NHS to pay

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This^^^^

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Originally Posted by TISS

why has society evolved that men and women need separate toilets? i may be mistaken but generally both sexes use a toilet for the same purpose.

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What sanitary products do you use? do you know what goes on in women's toilets?

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Originally Posted by Vimana.

So, the point , as I understand, that a couple of posters made is that, it is hard to tell.

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I see what you mean.
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Originally Posted by TISS

why has society evolved that men and women need separate toilets? i may be mistaken but generally both sexes use a toilet for the same purpose.

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Yeah man, and why do we bother wearing clothes? We were all born naked, maaan. Let's just be free.

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Originally Posted by adz-a32

Alright, my point is that is there is a transgender person, they should be able to go to the bathroom of the gender they identify with.

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And that makes perfect sense to me.

Now, if that post-op lady commits a crime - do we throw her in a male prison or do we throw her in a female prison?

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

You would check first I think because you are polite. :biggrin:


The right to dispose of my sanitry products, change clothing, change my childs nappy ect in the PRIVACY of other women.


Do you care about my rights? snfh?


Where the hell are the red and yellow card smiley? :hehe:


Irony

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why are you comfortable getting changed in the presence of other women but not other men? arent you guilty of treating people differently based on gender?

Btw what I meant is separate toilet rooms for different ppl, like the room has toilet and sink and bin etc

But for the time being, people go to the toilet of what gender they identify with

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi

What's to misinterpret? His point is right there:

ppl should use the bathroom of which gender they want to identify with

Nothing to do with "blokes putting on frocks to use the ladies". The point I disagree with is right there, I don't want any old bloke moseying into the ladies when my wife and daughter are in there and being able to weasel his way out of it by simply claiming he "identifies as a woman". **** that.
Again, if that makes me an idiot or a bigot then I'll happily be one.

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U don evun go too toilet.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi

Yeah man, and why do we bother wearing clothes? We were all born naked, maaan. Let's just be free.

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I'd hate for all of mankind to get envious. Clothes are there to protect you from fine specimens like me.

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Originally Posted by Steve R

U don evun go too toilet.

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Mate, less than an hour ago I dropped a series of logs that Abraham Lincoln could have constructed a house out of.

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

What sanitary products do you use? do you know what goes on in women's toilets?

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You are a bidet. :hehe::hehe:

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Originally Posted by TISS

why are you comfortable getting changed in the presence of other women but not other men? arent you guilty of treating people differently based on gender?

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Some of those girls could be lesbians wearing a strap-on just waiting for the perfect moment for another woman to lower her guard and start changing clothes after a piss. It's no less fanciful than a bloke buying a frock just to have a perv is it?

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Originally Posted by Steve R

U don evun go too toilet.

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You're a bidet TOO/also. :hehe::hehe:

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

What sanitary products do you use? do you know what goes on in women's toilets?

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people going to the toilet?

what has sanitary products got to do with this? i would assume all that stuff is done in the privacy of the cubicle....or is it a team effort to change a tampon...a bit like a grand prix tyre change

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi

Yeah man, and why do we bother wearing clothes? We were all born naked, maaan. Let's just be free.

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We would be if they hadn't stole that apple from the tree innit?

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Originally Posted by Steve R

We would be if they hadn'tw stole that apple from the tree innit?

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bloody women

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Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt

Don't they have bins in the cubicles for your sanitary stuff?

Are women often changing clothing in the toilets?

Nappy changes - I've always used the child's nappy changing room for this.

As for the "Irony" comment. Not sure where I've resorted to character assassination to win an argument here, although I do get a lot of provocation so I may have lapsed at some stage.

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You would use the nappy changing room because you are a man, women don't always do that, depends on the toilets, the irony comment was about the school thread.

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Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt

And that makes perfect sense to me.

Now, if that post-op lady commits a crime - do we throw her in a male prison or do we throw her in a female prison?

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Can of worms.

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Originally Posted by TISS

why are you comfortable getting changed in the presence of other women but not other men? arent you guilty of treating people differently based on gender?

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Would you get changed in the middle of Queen Street?

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Originally Posted by Steve R

We would be if they hadn't stole that apple from the tree innit?

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Ya, a bite of the forbidden fruit done for us !

It's nice though. :hehe:

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Originally Posted by adz-a32

second generation immigrant so technically yes and no

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Technically and legally no,you're British.

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

Do you think that's why people change gender...to make the news? I don't.

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Some do. Bruce Jenner for starters. Got a TV Deal out of it.

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Originally Posted by Vimana.

Perhaps he feels that it is increasingly being presented as 'entertainment' by way of easy TV 'emotive' broadcasting.
And that it seems to have become a 'trend' in a short space of time?

It's an impression I get TBH.

I happen to know two people (one is related), who are seriously considering gender change.
Seemingly out of the blue.
Perhaps they feel liberated by the more open / commonplace examples and coverage of TG. In which case, that would have to be seen as a good thing.

However both individuals have spent their life being high-grade attention seekers. I do wonder whether they have been attracted to the notion , if only partly because of this focus and attention on the subject.

I know it is not an easy process, and I'm sure they will only go through with it if they are fully sure, and can illustrate that determination.

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Interesting that both individuals you know are attention seekers. I hadn't thought of it from that angle as it such a drastic step to take.