Tories take Clwyd from Labour in a very tight contest
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Tories take Clwyd from Labour in a very tight contest
can she be elected on the regional list? Or was it all or nothing on the constituency poll?Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Pretty sure she wasn’t on the regional list.Quote:
Originally Posted by cityhammer
She's not on the listQuote:
Originally Posted by cityhammer
Cometh the hour cometh the man. Drakeford is the Welsh Winston Churchill.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
Lib Dems and UKIP getting a right kicking, seem to be in the hundreds in most seats
Any reason for that? It's really disappointing news someone like her is now missing whereas we can expect some Abolish louts to get in.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
I don't know, its strange as well because Plaid weren't particularly confident of holding the seat going inQuote:
Originally Posted by surge
All the smaller parties seem to be getting a kicking, Labour, Tories & Plaid well ahead of the rest atm. Hopefully that means the pre election Abolish hype was misplaced
I agree itll be a shame if shes not in the Sennedd. Plaid dont look like they're going to gain any constituency seats so will hope of increasing their representation by gaining some regional seats from UKIP.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Its a strange one though. The polls immediately before the election looked pretty bad for Plaid but they're picking up votes. Up 1,200 in West Carmarthen, up 200 Clwyd South, up 2,200 in Preseii, up 2,200 in Wrexham, up 2,000 in Montgomery, up 1,000 in GowerQuote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Disappointing results in Aberconwy & Caerphilly for them though
That’s the only one they took in their targeted North Wales Labour seats though it seems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
could she have been a candidate and on regional list tho? I don’t understand how this crazy system works.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
yes they would have been hoping for a lot more than this!Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Yes, she was a constituency candidate and on the list last time. For some reason she isn't on it this timeQuote:
Originally Posted by cityhammer
Mark Reckless (too many drinks in the Westminster bar to vote on a budget when he was an MP) got 3.3% of the vote. I don't swear often on here but he's an absolute prick.
Seriously? Plaid need to do better, but Leanne Wood wasn't the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Are you shoe-r?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
The answer IS probably someone at the head of the party from the Valleys who seems credible.Quote:
Originally Posted by tforturton
As the only real left-wing alternative in Wales, Plaid have to do something to make up some ground in South East Wales.
I think a lot of people vote Labour just because they can't stand the Tories. I voted Plaid in West Carmarthen and part of me thinks it might have been wiser to vote labour , considering the margins.
seems like a good night for labour
I think I saw aswell that Neil Hamilton got less than 1000 votes. Hope that's the end of him too.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
I think Plaid will finish as third biggest party but probably made mistakes in: setting a date for referendum when it currently scares a lot of people and perhaps promising to spend too aggressively in their manifesto. The transformative policies are good but think parties of the left need slightly more focus on what's most important/achievable - combining with Gwlad team might help do this.
In addition, fear that Tories would win in big numbers and pandemic giving Labour center stage has probably lost them votes too.
I know it's still early days, much to play for, but is anyone else looking forward to Sludge hastily updating his views on Mark Drakeford?
Preseli Pembrokeshire:
i)Tories win with 39.0% of the vote and if combined with Reform would get 42.9%.
ii) Labour second with 34.6% but if combined with Plaid would have 54.1%
Carmarthen West & Pembrokeshire South:
i) Tories win with 35.5% of the vote and if combined with Reform and UKIP would get 39.9%
ii) Labour second with 32.6% but if combined with Plaid would get 53.5%
I know it still doesn't work like that but in another universe Labour and Plaid have taken one of those seats each rather than losing both to Tories.
Dreadful night for plaid , vote hardly moved here come the excuses
Good night for Labour but great that drakeford will be stepping down to give a new vibrant leader a chance to pull away
Laughing my arse off at the conservatives , cocky as feck , drooling on about the 22 stale years of Labour and all that crap
Opinion polls in last few days of the election showing a gain in conservative support clearly brought out the good men and women of Wales to get to the polling stations and show up where it mattered to keep the tories out of power in Wales
God bless you all
I’m so pleased that my country men and women still want decency and values. England needs a good look at itself. Good on the Scots too.
There were never going to be massive gains for Plaid. It's all about them becoming the serious left option in Wales and a long term plan for independence.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Their manifesto was practically the same as Labour and independence will grow when hopefully Scotland and Ireland go.