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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
So you based the conclusion on a Telegraph article using one months comparative data. How many people died after being mauled by a dog in those periods out of interest?
Just look at the “permitted” data presented and make your own connection. There is plenty of data slowly being released and rather than trying to point score , why don’t you look at the data yourself.
You asked me to signpost you in the right direction and I have done so.
Go onto Twitter and hashtag excess deaths or go into a search engine and have a look for yourself..
Ultimately,they can’t explain it which in itself speaks volumes.
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
Just look at the “permitted” data presented and make your own connection. There is plenty of data slowly being released and rather than trying to point score , why don’t you look at the data yourself.
You asked me to signpost you in the right direction and I have done so.
Go onto Twitter and hashtag excess deaths or go into a search engine and have a look for yourself..
Ultimately,they can’t explain it which in itself speaks volumes.
I don't really blame Cyril, Lardy and others for their permanent state of gormlessness re this affair.
Had I been nuts enough to have faith in Pfizer I'd prefer denial too than wonder which of myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attack, clotting or a turbo cancer I'll clock out with.
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
Just look at the “permitted” data presented and make your own connection. There is plenty of data slowly being released and rather than trying to point score , why don’t you look at the data yourself.
You asked me to signpost you in the right direction and I have done so.
Go onto Twitter and hashtag excess deaths or go into a search engine and have a look for yourself..
Ultimately,they can’t explain it which in itself speaks volumes.
Permitted data, wtf is that?
Point scoring seems to be your phrase for the New Year when you post your thoughts and others take issue with them.
You are asking us to look at stuff on twitter when only a few weeks ago you were lauding ONS data. Now it seems it only presents "permitted" data when it contradicts the stuff you are peddling.
Today you posted a BBC article that showed two pieces of evidence. That most of the excess deaths are in the over 50s and higher proportions of unvaccinated people are dying than vaccinated. Obviously those things don't suit a narrative as with the ONS data so it's off to another lily-pad.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
I don't really blame Cyril, Lardy and others for their permanent state of gormlessness re this affair.
Had I been nuts enough to have faith in Pfizer I'd prefer denial too than wonder which of myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attack, clotting or a turbo cancer I'll clock out with.
Last year, off the top of my head, you gave us:
Giant black-eyed transhuman babies about to appear in their hundreds of thousands;
HIV in Vaccines;
Putin a black-belt Mason because he wore a robe imprinted with lotus flowers;
Australians bombarded with radiation by police at demos;
£1300 Primark coats;
Monkey pox let loose by the WEF because it's the real killer;
Accelerating economic collapse at the precise time world markets started to stabilise and
At least four forecasts that the world was about to be thrown into nuclear armaggedon, including one from Golden Girl, Betty White from beyond the grave.
Gormlessness doesn't do the word justice, Morg!
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
Last year, off the top of my head, you gave us:
Giant black-eyed transhuman babies about to appear in their hundreds of thousands;
HIV in Vaccines;
Putin a black-belt Mason because he wore a robe imprinted with lotus flowers;
Australians bombarded with radiation by police at demos;
£1300 Primark coats;
Monkey pox let loose by the WEF because it's the real killer;
Accelerating economic collapse at the precise time world markets started to stabilise and
At least four forecasts that the world was about to be thrown into nuclear armaggedon, including one from Golden Girl, Betty White from beyond the grave.
Gormlessness doesn't do the word justice, Morg!
And China attacking Taiwan and, the month after next, the magnetic pole switch.
But still he comes back for more. He must be a WUM merchant rather than being incredibly stupid.
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
Permitted data, wtf is that?
Point scoring seems to be your phrase for the New Year when you post your thoughts and others take issue with them.
You are asking us to look at stuff on twitter when only a few weeks ago you were lauding ONS data. Now it seems it only presents "permitted" data when it contradicts the stuff you are peddling.
Today you posted a BBC article that showed two pieces of evidence. That most of the excess deaths are in the over 50s and higher proportions of unvaccinated people are dying than vaccinated. Obviously those things don't suit a narrative as with the ONS data so it's off to another lily-pad.
No agenda from me, just stating that lockdown policies will cause more harm than good.
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
Permitted data, wtf is that?
Point scoring seems to be your phrase for the New Year when you post your thoughts and others take issue with them.
You are asking us to look at stuff on twitter when only a few weeks ago you were lauding ONS data. Now it seems it only presents "permitted" data when it contradicts the stuff you are peddling.
Today you posted a BBC article that showed two pieces of evidence. That most of the excess deaths are in the over 50s and higher proportions of unvaccinated people are dying than vaccinated. Obviously those things don't suit a narrative as with the ONS data so it's off to another lily-pad.
“WTF permitted data “ yes permitted data.
How about big pharmaceutical not allowing a full data drop for 75 years :hehe:
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lardy
I think there'll be a few disappointed that the article even addressed it as it ruins a good narrative. But at least the BBC are being responsible enough to discredit any vaccine nonsense.
From what people etc are saying, the large numbers of non-Covid and non-NHS crisis deaths really started to take off since May 2022. How convenient the BBC only uses data up until June 2022.
It would be interesting to know what they class as "unvaccinated". It could include people who have one or two...just like they did with so called "unvaccinated" deaths.
We SHOULD be in negative excess death territory after losing so many elderly / frail people .
Anyone trying to explain these deaths on NHS pressures has obviously not taken into account the same level of excess deaths is apparently happening across the western world for the same period and many countries with health services that aren’t struggling to the degree NHS is.
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TWGL1
From what people etc are saying, the large numbers of non-Covid and non-NHS crisis deaths really started to take off since May 2022. How convenient the BBC only uses data up until June 2022.
It would be interesting to know what they class as "unvaccinated". It could include people who have one or two...just like they did with so called "unvaccinated" deaths.
We SHOULD be in negative excess death territory after losing so many elderly / frail people .
Anyone trying to explain these deaths on NHS pressures has obviously not taken into account the same level of excess deaths is apparently happening across the western world for the same period and many countries with health services that aren’t struggling to the degree NHS is.
You’re the one who posted the BBC link and now you’re rubbishing it :facepalm:
Maybe you realise that - hence your reluctance to back up your other claims in this message with evidence.
There is an argument to be had about the degree to which it’s responsible, but anyone who thinks that a seriously under resourced and employed NHS is having no effect on the UK’s excess deaths figure is deluding themselves.
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the other bob wilson
You’re the one who posted the BBC link and now you’re rubbishing it :facepalm:
Maybe you realise that - hence your reluctance to back up your other claims in this message with evidence.
There is an argument to be had about the degree to which it’s responsible, but anyone who thinks that a seriously under resourced and employed NHS is having no effect on the UK’s excess deaths figure is deluding themselves.
Just to clarify your point, it’s not solely down to the NHS ,which is what you suggested, but the figures are similar in Europe with more effective health services. I’ve already stated my opinion in respect of the article posted.
Understaffed :hehe:
Biggest employer in Europe apparently
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
Just to clarify your point, it’s not solely down to the NHS ,which is what you suggested, but the figures are similar in Europe with more effective health services. I’ve already stated my opinion in respect of the article posted.
Understaffed :hehe:
Biggest employer in Europe apparently
So you're saying that the NHS, with it's tens of thousands of vacancies, is not understaffed?
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the other bob wilson
So you're saying that the NHS, with it's tens of thousands of vacancies, is not understaffed?
Every big organisation has vacancies, from cleaners to M.D’s and CEO’s
I think it’s adequately staffed if it’s the biggest employer in Europe and one of the largest in the world and you could argue per population it’s the worlds biggest employer.
Reforms are needed not even more staff.
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TWGL1
Every big organisation has vacancies, from cleaners to M.D’s and CEO’s
I think it’s adequately staffed if it’s the biggest employer in Europe and one of the largest in the world and you could argue per population it’s the worlds biggest employer.
Reforms are needed not even more staff.
I forgot to add my Sister in Law , front line , took over four months to start in her job, ( from successful at interview to starting,) and had to resign her previous job before receiving her contract
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TWGL1
Every big organisation has vacancies, from cleaners to M.D’s and CEO’s
I think it’s adequately staffed if it’s the biggest employer in Europe and one of the largest in the world and you could argue per population it’s the worlds biggest employer.
Reforms are needed not even more staff.
What’s 133,000 between friends eh?
https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/s...-care-sectors/
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TWGL1
You’re getting desperate now :hehe:
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the other bob wilson
You’re getting desperate now :hehe:
And obsessed.
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
And obsessed.
Not obsessed at all, just happy to prove to people who installed themselves as self appointed government deputies who curtain twitched and called people anti this and anti that out in respect of policies that were clearly flawed.
I wonder how many clapped the NHS every Thursday like sheep on government instruction, when clearly that was a psychop tool for compliance , otherwise we wouldn’t be having strikes and walkout’s either.
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TWGL1
Not obsessed at all, just happy to prove to people who installed themselves as self appointed government deputies who curtain twitched and called people anti this and anti that out in respect of policies that were clearly flawed.
I wonder how many clapped the NHS every Thursday like sheep on government instruction, when clearly that was a psychop tool for compliance , otherwise we wouldn’t be having strikes and walkout’s either.
And there we have it. Someone with no professed agenda who was blessed with a gift of enlightenment and insight, honour bound to show sheeple and curtain twitchers the true path.
Though, just like other similarly gifted who have graced this group, like Ronnie Bird and Wales-Ampadu, or whatever that user id is now calling itself, they all reach exactly the same conclusions using exactly the same fringe sources to confirm their special talents!
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
And there we have it. Someone with no professed agenda who was blessed with a gift of enlightenment and insight, honour bound to show sheeple and curtain twitchers the true path.
Though, just like other similarly gifted who have graced this group, like Ronnie Bird and Wales-Ampadu, or whatever that user id is now calling itself, they all reach exactly the same conclusions using exactly the same fringe sources to confirm their special talents!
There is a definite difference between agenda and opinion .
I like how you try and label my opinion to other posters on this board , it’s getting quite comical.
Looks like you may have been in the control group and are one of these self appointed government deputies……I guess it give you a perception of self importance :popcorn:
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
There is a definite difference between agenda and opinion .
I like how you try and label my opinion to other posters on this board , it’s getting quite comical.
Looks like you may have been in the control group and are one of these self appointed government deputies……I guess it give you a perception of self importance :popcorn:
You are Potty
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SLUDGE FACTORY
You are Potty
Says a guy who advocated unforced labour on unvaccinated groups against their will.
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TWGL1
Says a guy who advocated unforced labour on unvaccinated groups against their will.
Why on Earth is that potty? Should he have suggested a long prison sentence instead?
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Dorcus
Why on Earth is that potty? Should he have suggested a long prison sentence instead?
Hard / forced Labour on the unvaccinated again their will is acceptable is it in your eyes is it , on what grounds ?
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TWGL1
Hard / forced Labour on the unvaccinated again their will is acceptable is it in your eyes is it , on what grounds ?
Protection of the majority.
