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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
You guess wrong in the post I am referring to on Wales Online
It was clearly a xenophobic comment and even giving the benefit of the doubt in this instance you are incorrect
What did it say exactly?
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
The statement I made was he was born in Germany
The statement you made was: "Bulut was born in Germany to Turkish parents."
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
The statement you made was: "Bulut was born in Germany to Turkish parents."
German Turkish parents ?
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
In my opinion people who use phrases like "Go back to (insert country) are more likely to be a bit racist or bigoted than those that don't, or wouldn't. It's a bit ignorant at best.
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
What did it say exactly?
It was similar to the post on here but a tad more obvious
It was removed after plenty of complaints
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
In my opinion people who use phrases like "Go back to (insert country) are more likely to be a bit racist or bigoted than those that don't, or wouldn't. It's a bit ignorant at best.
Indeed
I think Monkfish is clearly not a member of the KKK
But there are plenty of other beauties out there and this is what I am referring to
Yet people for the sake of a ruck are arguing over semantics
As has been noted its enlightening
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Indeed
I think Monkfish is clearly not a member of the KKK
But there are plenty of other beauties out there and this is what I am referring to
Yet people for the sake of a ruck are arguing over semantics
As has been noted its enlightening
There are connotations in the phrase. Plenty of people who use it may not be racist or bigoted, although plenty that do, are.
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
German Turkish parents ?
Is that a fact? You know that to be true, do you? Or are you just making assumptions?
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
It was similar to the post on here but a tad more obvious
It was removed after plenty of complaints
Really? Because the post you quoted it still there. You said it read as follows:
"Leave him in Turkey.....we don't want him back!"
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
There are connotations in the phrase. Plenty of people who use it may not be racist or bigoted, although plenty that do, are.
It's all about context.
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Really? Because the post you quoted it still there. You said it read as follows:
"Leave him in Turkey.....we don't want him back!"
That is deemed racist ? Why ?
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
That is deemed racist ? Why ?
Not by me.
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Is that a fact? You know that to be true, do you? Or are you just making assumptions?
Are they from Norway ?
Are they Norwegian German?
Norwegian Turkish ?
Ukrainian?
Croatian ?
I will let you decide
Erol Bulut was born in Germany to German, German Turkish, mixed German Turkish parents
They may have described themselves as Turkish, German Turkish, mixed , etc
Do you think he's French of Australian parents ?
Make something up
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Not by me.
Oh well there we go then
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Make something up
I'll leave that to you.
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I'll leave that to you.
So that's a no then
You think that erol bulut was born in Germany or he wasn't?
And that his parents were of Argentinian descent .....insert your choice
And that saying we .....as in us .....don't want someone and he should go back to Germany? ......is acceptable
Because this is what you are defending
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
It's all about context.
I'm not so sure. If the phrase had no history behind it then I'd agree. It's dodgy ground in my opinion.
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I'll leave that to you.
What do you think the origin of his parents are ?
Swiss
Dutch
Native American Indian
Port Talbot ?
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Leave him in Turkey.....we don't want him back !
Some priceless comments on there
Dopey twat , he's German
Hmmmm.
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I'm not so sure. If the phrase had no history behind it then I'd agree. It's dodgy ground in my opinion.
My point wasn't to the fact of the "go back to where you came from", i just used that for emphasis, sadly it distracted from what i feel was the real racial slur of 'turkball'. The similarity with the term "wogball" is unquestionable. Plus he's got form.
why those opposed to Bulut are trying to defend it is more worrying. Scary place we live in now.
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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OurManFlint II
My point wasn't to the fact of the "go back to where you came from", i just used that for emphasis....
And there's the issue. You and the usual suspect are putting words in people's mouths and distorting what was actually said.
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
OurManFlint II
My point wasn't to the fact of the "go back to where you came from", i just used that for emphasis, sadly it distracted from what i feel was the real racial slur of 'turkball'. The similarity with the term "wogball" is unquestionable. Plus he's got form.
why those opposed to Bulut are trying to defend it is more worrying. Scary place we live in now.
The level of daftness is debatable but its there
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
Is Greek racist, is Turk racist, is Brit racist, is Taff racist, ffs hurry up Tan, this is what it's come to!!!!
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So wtf is going on with Bulut?
Feels like the last few pages is the sort of nonsense Tan, Choo, Dalman and co have been arguing about instead of securing us a manager for next season.
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Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?
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Originally Posted by
Trigger
So wtf is going on with Bulut?
With all due respect, I don't think you're going to find the answer on here.