Police commissioner requests 'immediate review' of decision to ban Maccabi Tel Aviv fans

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I mean, the people of Swansea would say the exact same about us. I'm sure many in Glasgow would rather fans be banned from away games and I suspect a pretty penny was spent on policing Liverpool v Man United yesterday.

As an aside - and I freely admit that Maccabi Tel Aviv have their share of thugs - but every video I have seen from yesterday involves Hapoel Tel Aviv (who play in red and white) who are their rivals, and were the home side. Just an observation that is. I don't doubt Maccabi fans contributed to the chaos, as these things are very seldom one sided.

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Up until very recently away fans have been banned from the Glasgow derby for years.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I mean, the people of Swansea would say the exact same about us. I'm sure many in Glasgow would rather fans be banned from away games and I suspect a pretty penny was spent on policing Liverpool v Man United yesterday.

As an aside - and I freely admit that Maccabi Tel Aviv have their share of thugs - but every video I have seen from yesterday involves Hapoel Tel Aviv (who play in red and white) who are their rivals, and were the home side. Just an observation that is. I don't doubt Maccabi fans contributed to the chaos, as these things are very seldom one sided.

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And your thoughts on Maccabi fans behaviour in Amsterdam?

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Not sure if you're aware of this, but Cardiff is in South Wales as opposed to the Middle East.

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Didn't realise that. Thanks TLG 👍

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Up until very recently away fans have been banned from the Glasgow derby for years.

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No they weren't. It's cos the two clubs couldn't agree on ticketing arrangements.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

From the never reported British Jews who support the ban - and demonstrate against genocide in Palestine:

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org...cles-for-you_1

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Genocide is a form of one-sided mass killing in which a state or other authority intends to destroy a group, as that group and membership in it are defined by the perpetrator.

Lets be clear what Israel intended. It was clearly stated that Israel wanted to destroy Hamas. If your genocide is in reference to that then you would be right. If you are trying to conflate this to a wider genocide against the people of Gaza then you are wrong.

I for one will thank Israel if they wipe out that horrible sicking self-serving murderous terrorist group Hamas. They do-not work for the best interests of Gazan people and their lives will only improve when Hamas and Hezbullah are destroyed.

I read the link provided. Not one mention of the Jew hunt which happened after the game. Strange that

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

And your thoughts on Maccabi fans behaviour in Amsterdam?

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They were subjected to a mass 'Jew hunt' after the game.

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Originally Posted by NinianKnight

They were subjected to a mass 'Jew hunt' after the game.

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They deserved it after what happened before the match.

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Originally Posted by ninian opinian

Nothing to see here, the little darlings.

https://news.sky.com/story/tel-aviv-...ested-13453239

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The reach of the anti-semitic west midlands police knows no bounds, they are all powerful.

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Originally Posted by jeepster

They deserved it after what happened before the match.

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Christ, I've read some things on here...

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Originally Posted by NinianKnight

Genocide is a form of one-sided mass killing in which a state or other authority intends to destroy a group, as that group and membership in it are defined by the perpetrator.

Lets be clear what Israel intended. It was clearly stated that Israel wanted to destroy Hamas. If your genocide is in reference to that then you would be right. If you are trying to conflate this to a wider genocide against the people of Gaza then you are wrong.

I for one will thank Israel if they wipe out that horrible sicking self-serving murderous terrorist group Hamas. They do-not work for the best interests of Gazan people and their lives will only improve when Hamas and Hezbullah are destroyed.

I read the link provided. Not one mention of the Jew hunt which happened after the game. Strange that

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You are not alone in defining the term 'genocide' for yourself and amplifying the Israeli government's occasional defence.

But every major human rights organisation in the world (including in Israel) as well as the UN's Commission of Inquiry have concluded that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian people.

On the question of intent - Israeli government and IDF representatives (up to Netanyahu) have condemned themselves!

https://www.btselem.org/publications...7_our_genocide

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/...a-hrc-60-crp-3

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8641wv0n4go


Still, if you and Trump and Starmer disagree, that is up to you.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

No they weren't. It's cos the two clubs couldn't agree on ticketing arrangements.

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Because of fan safety :shrug:

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Originally Posted by NinianKnight

Genocide is a form of one-sided mass killing in which a state or other authority intends to destroy a group, as that group and membership in it are defined by the perpetrator.

Lets be clear what Israel intended. It was clearly stated that Israel wanted to destroy Hamas. If your genocide is in reference to that then you would be right. If you are trying to conflate this to a wider genocide against the people of Gaza then you are wrong.

I for one will thank Israel if they wipe out that horrible sicking self-serving murderous terrorist group Hamas. They do-not work for the best interests of Gazan people and their lives will only improve when Hamas and Hezbullah are destroyed.

I read the link provided. Not one mention of the Jew hunt which happened after the game. Strange that

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You must have been asleep for the past two years. One sided mass killing is exactly what we got. 68k and counting!

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Because of fan safety :shrug:

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Well by definition, anything related to away fans is connected to fan safety cos the very reason we have segregated sections is due to fan safety (although I read with interest recently that Premiership Rugby is bringing it in to aid atmospheres..).

But the reason away fans weren't present for two years is because the clubs couldn't agree on allocations. Thankfully reversed now.

In terms of trouble, things seem to be a little worse in Scotland now than England and there is a much stronger "pyro" culture, up there, I'm not sure why tbh

Everything will be fine. Lisa Nandy has got it covered...ish.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj971rwyzlgo

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Originally Posted by IanD

Everything will be fine. Lisa Nandy has got it covered...ish.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj971rwyzlgo

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They'll bend over backwards to appease their overlords: the safety of British citizens is a secondary concern. What a bunch of lily livered nobodies.

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Originally Posted by NinianKnight

Genocide is a form of one-sided mass killing in which a state or other authority intends to destroy a group, as that group and membership in it are defined by the perpetrator.

Lets be clear what Israel intended. It was clearly stated that Israel wanted to destroy Hamas. If your genocide is in reference to that then you would be right. If you are trying to conflate this to a wider genocide against the people of Gaza then you are wrong.

I for one will thank Israel if they wipe out that horrible sicking self-serving murderous terrorist group Hamas. They do-not work for the best interests of Gazan people and their lives will only improve when Hamas and Hezbullah are destroyed.

I read the link provided. Not one mention of the Jew hunt which happened after the game. Strange that

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****ing hell scary how dim you are

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

You must have been asleep for the past two years. One sided mass killing is exactly what we got. 68k and counting!

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Spot on. Worrying how people's mind works. No wonder we'll end up with a reform government

Well that’s the end of that nonsense.

Hopefully Tommy Ten Names will still attend though.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Well that’s the end of that nonsense.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/c3w98224xx8o

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Well that’s the end of that nonsense.

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So the genuine Maccabi fans who wouldn’t cause bother and just wanted to support their team are the ones who suffer. Cosmic!

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

So the genuine Maccabi fans who wouldn’t cause bother and just wanted to support their team are the ones who suffer. Cosmic!

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All's well that ends well

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

So the genuine Maccabi fans who wouldn’t cause bother and just wanted to support their team are the ones who suffer. Cosmic!

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Trouble absolutely would have found them. This isn't being done just to punish the Maccabi fans, it's also being done to keep them and others safe.

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

So the genuine Maccabi fans who wouldn’t cause bother and just wanted to support their team are the ones who suffer. Cosmic!

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It’s the perfect outcome.

Villa are blameless. The Birmingham SAG can say they’d have stuck to their original decision. The government can claim they would have found a solution. The Israelis can play the victim card. And those who are apparently more outraged by the ‘suffering’ of a bunch of football fans than a genocide can stay outraged.

Truly cosmic.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

It’s the perfect outcome.

Villa are blameless. The Birmingham SAG can say they’d have stuck to their original decision. The government can claim they would have found a solution. The Israelis can play the victim card. And those who are apparently more outraged by the ‘suffering’ of a bunch of football fans than a genocide can stay outraged.

Truly cosmic.

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Last comment is just beyond ignorant.

Would be nice actually if Villa made a token invitation to Emily Damari and family who was one of the hostages and a London based Maccabi fan, as a gesture of goodwill