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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
Sad news as hope fades. Thoughts are with his and other people on board's families. On a practical level I do hope CCFC had procedures in place to make sure he was insured from the moment he put pen to paper, otherwise it's £15m gone......
That's not the concern right now - two people's lives are.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
Sad news as hope fades. Thoughts are with his and other people on board's families. On a practical level I do hope CCFC had procedures in place to make sure he was insured from the moment he put pen to paper, otherwise it's £15m gone......
**** the money, two people have probably died
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Originally Posted by
Rock_Flock_of_Five
Sorry, but that an unfair statement. It's almost like you're suggesting the club knew of the plane's difficulty but insisted that the flight goes ahead. No one knows at this particular point what has happened. So let's not speculate.
It's a difficult time and I'm not going to knock someone for feeling differently about what's happened to the way I do, but is this really the time to start asking questions about the airworthiness of the plane when there is still hope of a positive outcome? The probability is that the outcome won't be a good one and if it isn't, then it won't take long at all for focus to come on to the how's and whys, but can't we keep that for another day for now?
I should add that my comments were not directed at you RFOF.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Originally Posted by
Rock_Flock_of_Five
Sorry, but that an unfair statement. It's almost like you're suggesting the club knew of the plane's difficulty but insisted that the flight goes ahead. No one knows at this particular point what has happened. So let's not speculate.
Speculation is unhelpful but it’s been stated that weather conditions were good and that the plane had trouble taking off.
According to this article...
https://www.dobleamarilla.com.ar/por...9062019cf66753
....his father says he received a call from Tan who said that the plane lost control (and that the plane belonged to him).Says Nantes are yet to get in touch.
It’s a huge leap and totally unfair to link any negligence to outside pressures to get him here asap, but it looks like a serious mechanical fault could have been responsible and I imagine if proper protocol was carried out the accident could’ve been avoided.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Originally Posted by
lisvaneblue
I've e-mailed the Club to ask that they take down the front page of their website which shows Emiliano Sala being welcomed to the Club.
It seems so inappropriate at this time, especially as lots of people will searching the site for news updates
I saw that when looking for news about the situation this morning. It is crass that they still haven't removed it.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
Cardiff Statement
Cardiff City FC Executive Director & CEO Ken Choo | 22/01/19
"We were very shocked upon hearing the news that the plane had gone missing. We expected Emiliano to arrive last night into Cardiff and today was due to be his first day with the team.
"Our owner, Tan Sri Vincent Tan, and chairman, Mehmet Dalman, are all very distressed about the situation.
"We made the decision first thing this morning to call off training with the thoughts of the squad, management staff and the entire Club with Emiliano and the pilot.
"All of us at Cardiff City FC would like to thank our fans, and the entire footballing family for their support at this difficult time.
"We continue to pray for positive news."
Cardiff City Football Club will make a further statement as more information becomes available.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
It's a difficult time and I'm not going to knock someone for feeling differently about what's happened to the way I do, but is this really the time to start asking questions about the airworthiness of the plane when there is still hope of a positive outcome? The probability is that the outcome won't be a good one and if it isn't, then it won't take long at all for focus to come on to the how's and whys, but can't we keep that for another day for now?
I should add that my comments were not directed at you RFOF.
I'm not sure why you have quoted me? I said not to speculate.
Anyway, I'm not going to get locked in any debate, it's not the time or place.
I think you might have edited your post.
Thank you anyway.
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I know I have not posted in here for ages, just wanted to express my shock at this terrible situation and hope that there is better news as the search continues!
I have been looking at the flight radar and ships radar...…….very little to report, except, it may be nothing but an Air Ambulance left Guernsey 2 hrs ago and has landed at RAF Northolt, might just be a normal service, also an air ambulance has landed in Jersey from Southampton………….but this may be just normal flights!
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Originally Posted by
Rock_Flock_of_Five
I'm not sure why you have quoted me? I said not to speculate.
Anyway, I'm not going to get locked in any debate, it's not the time or place.
I think you might have edited your post.
Thank you anyway.
Yes, I did edit it after reading it back because it read as if my reply was directed at you - I was supporting what you said and apologise for any confusion.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
It's sounds like there is little hope now so my thoughts go out to all the family members at this terrible time. RIP.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Yes, I did edit it after reading it back because it read as if my reply was directed at you - I was supporting what you said and apologise for any confusion.
No problem and thank you once again.
We are all distraught by this. It's 10.35pm here, this has drained me, I need to lie down.
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News and updates has gone very quiet over the last two hours or so. It's most probably as there's nothing more to be said at this stage but I wonder whether it's because they're all preparing to tell us something major?
I'm just clutching at straws that some positivity will come out of it.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
It's a difficult time and I'm not going to knock someone for feeling differently about what's happened to the way I do, but is this really the time to start asking questions about the airworthiness of the plane when there is still hope of a positive outcome? The probability is that the outcome won't be a good one and if it isn't, then it won't take long at all for focus to come on to the how's and whys, but can't we keep that for another day for now?
I should add that my comments were not directed at you RFOF.
I agree. Speculating about what the cause was and apportioning blame is so unnecessary at this juncture.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Originally Posted by
Zowhore
It’s crossed my mind and I hope it’s not true but they may have felt like he needed to be in Cardiff this morning for his first full day. Forcing the matter to get here.
Obviously not worth it.
The decision to fly is always the pilot's. He/ she would be the one to assess whether they felt the plane was safe to fly. Unfortunately, this looks like the wrong decision has been made, if all we are hearing is true. Until we have the full investigation, we won't know.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Taunton Blue Genie
I agree. Speculating about what the cause was and apportioning blame is so unnecessary at this juncture.
^This
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Originally Posted by
Harry Monk
The decision to fly is always the pilot's. He/ she would be the one to assess whether they felt the plane was safe to fly. Unfortunately, this looks like the wrong decision has been made, if all we are hearing is true. Until we have the full investigation, we won't know.
And we shouldn't speculate until then. It's wrong and won't do any good.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
He really is gone isn't he?
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Originally Posted by
Baker
He really is gone isn't he?
The longer we go without news then I’d imagine so. Survival time in the water was probably only a couple of hours given the sea surface temperature.
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Originally Posted by
Baker
He really is gone isn't he?
'fraid so.
RIP Emi. We will never know.
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fred keenor
Not a good read at all ...... so many questions that'll never get answered
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Aircraft was owned by the football club? meaning us? And he complained to someone it was bumpy on the previous journey. Not good.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Forgotmyoldaccount
Don’t give them the attention, to be so sociopathic all isn’t right with their lives.
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Forgotmyoldaccount
Got to keep up the well ard look. These days online.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Forgotmyoldaccount
Aircraft was owned by the football club? meaning us?
I read somewhere it was Tans
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
If only he hadn't have postponed his signing and transfer last week so he could play 1 last game for Nantes, he may still have been alive today. Sad.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Blue Dwr
If only he hadn't have postponed his signing and transfer last week so he could play 1 last game for Nantes, he may still have been alive today. Sad.
Every single moment has an impact on our lives and we have no control.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Originally Posted by
fred keenor
A very valid point about why he was being flown in a single engine aircraft over the Channel at night with an approaching front (snow?), at relatively low altitude (5,000 ft).
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Forgotmyoldaccount
Every single moment has an impact on our lives and we have no control.
Yes, always baffles me to think in these situations that literally everything, down to the most miniscule event, at least up until he decided to board the plane has contributed to him being there at that time. Boggles the mind.
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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IanD
A very valid point about why he was being flown in a single engine aircraft over the Channel at night with an approaching front (snow?), at relatively low altitude (5,000 ft).
A pilot on talksport said that all commercial charter flights over water would use twin engines as you always have a back up and that it must have been a private flight.
He was spot on unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by
Forgotmyoldaccount
Jesus. What a bunch of disgusting people.
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Forgotmyoldaccount
Several disgusting comments on there.
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NYCBlue
Jesus. What a bunch of disgusting people.
Ignore it
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Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?
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Originally Posted by
fred keenor
A pilot on talksport said that all commercial charter flights over water would use twin engines as you always have a back up and that it must have been a private flight.
He was spot on unfortunately.
Correct. Which begs the question why a private flight in a single engine aircraft was a good idea. And did the pilot have the correct qualifications? I do hope it doesn't transpire that pressure was put on the pilot to get him to Cardiff in time for training this morning, just for publicity's sake or similar.
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Originally Posted by
IanD
Correct. Which begs the question why a private flight in a single engine aircraft was a good idea. And did the pilot have the correct qualifications? I do hope it doesn't transpire that pressure was put on the pilot to get him to Cardiff in time for training this morning, just for publicity's sake or similar.
Again, let's not jump to any conclusions.
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