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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
As an added point it has now been decide that the area is being taken down on Sunday, but the council haven't decided what to do with the street.
So they put an outdoor eating area up whilst the weather was good enough for it to be used then took it down when the weather turned bad?
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
So they put an outdoor eating area up whilst the weather was good enough for it to be used then took it down when the weather turned bad?
Paninigate.
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
Any feedback on the financial success (or failure) as yet?
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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delmbox
So they put an outdoor eating area up whilst the weather was good enough for it to be used then took it down when the weather turned bad?
I reckon to use it as a road would be a good idea, there isn’t much traffic these days anyway. It’s down about 80% on what it was a year ago I heard, so may aswell leave it as it was.
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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goats
I reckon to use it as a road would be a good idea, there isn’t much traffic these days anyway. It’s down about 80% on what it was a year ago I heard, so may aswell leave it as it was.
The council really don't want to re open the road, over the next ten years expect plenty more exercises like this. I'm all for getting people out of their vehicles, it wont work though until public transport is revolutionised in Cardiff and the surrounding areas. There has to be a point in time where people with cars start thinking about others when they decide to take a little joy ride across the city for no real reason.
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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splott parker
Any feedback on the financial success (or failure) as yet?
I don't think that was the whole point of the scheme, it was more about giving businesses another option in these difficult times. It would have cost the Council money, i can't see how it wouldn't have.
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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Tuerto
I don't think that was the whole point of the scheme, it was more about giving businesses another option in these difficult times.
Was it bollocks. It was about closing Castle Street - something the council have wanted to do for a long time. Simple as that.
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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Tuerto
I don't think that was the whole point of the scheme, it was more about giving businesses another option in these difficult times. It would have cost the Council money, i can't see how it wouldn't have.
I meant from the food outlets point of view, they’re obviously in business to make money. I wonder if any of them achieved what they hoped for over the period that the area’s been open? It would be good to hear from them either, “ Yes, it was a success and we’re looking forward to it opening again” or “No, it wasn’t financially viable and we won’t be taking part if the scheme is revived”. The former would justify the council’s decision to create the food area, the latter, if the council are adamant on continuing the road closure, may, perhaps result in the authorities coming out and saying that they just want the road closed full stop without any cloak and dagger reason.
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
The council really don't want to re open the road, over the next ten years expect plenty more exercises like this. I'm all for getting people out of their vehicles, it wont work though until public transport is revolutionised in Cardiff and the surrounding areas. There has to be a point in time where people with cars start thinking about others when they decide to take a little joy ride across the city for no real reason.
I know, a mate of mine is quite high up in the council, says they’ve been dying to find an excuse for years.....
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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The Lone Gunman
Was it bollocks. It was about closing Castle Street - something the council have wanted to do for a long time. Simple as that.
you're probably right.
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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The Lone Gunman
Was it bollocks. It was about closing Castle Street - something the council have wanted to do for a long time. Simple as that.
Was in town on Monday. Saw them working in Castle Street and thought they were removing all the lane markings etc., then realized they were installing lane posts etc. All probably rather irrelevant though - Town was empty at midday. Walked through Howells and not a single person other than staff on the ground floor - John Lewis just two. The city centre isn't dying, it's already dead.
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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A Quiet Monkfish
Was in town on Monday. Saw them working in Castle Street and thought they were removing all the lane markings etc., then realized they were installing lane posts etc. All probably rather irrelevant though - Town was empty at midday. Walked through Howells and not a single person other than staff on the ground floor - John Lewis just two. The city centre isn't dying, it's already dead.
It is, god only knows what will be left after “they” decide to lift local lockdowns.....
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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Heisenberg
"Perhaps the traders didn't sign up to the app because the area was miles away from their places of business".
:hehe: You're seriously taking the piss now. "They should all be able to use the seating area. The council doesn't look after everyone", "the seating area is probably miles away". Make your mind up, Snags. You're just arguing with yourself at this point.
You don't have to answer anything... But you've been quick enough to moan about the public transport in Cardiff and the issues with Castle St.. now you're and telling everyone that they now need to be vocal about the issues you've raised.
Because of that, I thought you'd jump at the chance to answer a question about what you've done personally to vocalise your unhappiness with how the council is working (other than moan on here) so we may be able to follow suit.
Guess not.
I don't recall saying that in this discussion.
I've raised the public transport issue with my local councilor and he said they're more interested in stopping cars than in actually providing a reasonable alternative. It will take years to sort out public transport but they don't want to wait that long to get rid of cars.
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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delmbox
So they put an outdoor eating area up whilst the weather was good enough for it to be used then took it down when the weather turned bad?
nothing wrong with that is there?
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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splott parker
Is it correct that if you order from an outlet that’s not on Castle St/Duke St that it’s £4.50 extra to cover delivery?
I have no idea, but I do know that the original rules were that you had to order from the places taking part, that you had to order at least £10 worth of food and you could only have alcoholic drinks if you were eating.
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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The Lone Gunman
Was it bollocks. It was about closing Castle Street - something the council have wanted to do for a long time. Simple as that.
You do put it so eloquently. :thumbup: :hehe:
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
I don't recall saying that in this discussion.
I've raised the public transport issue with my local councilor and he said they're more interested in stopping cars than in actually providing a reasonable alternative. It will take years to sort out public transport but they don't want to wait that long to get rid of cars.
I'm not surprised that you don't recall it.
When did you speak to your local councillor?
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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Heisenberg
I'm not surprised that you don't recall it.
When did you speak to your local councillor?
Ou? D
What is it with you ? Do you think you're the Spanish inquisition?
It none of your business but until quite recently he was my landlord so I spoke to him quite frequently?
So when did I say it?
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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xsnaggle
Ou? D
What is it with you ? Do you think you're the Spanish inquisition?
It none of your business but until quite recently he was my landlord so I spoke to him quite frequently?
So when did I say it?
No, it's just that you're often full of shit and become really defensive when asked simple questions about your assertions (remember the whole "there are people high up who don't want the pubs to reopen" rubbish that you peddled for ages and couldn't name a single person who felt that way?) so it's difficult to believe you when you say certain things. That's your fault, not mine.
Congrats on having a conversation with your former landlord about the issues that have made you so angry :hehe:
I have no idea what your last question is in reference to. I'm happy to answer it if you can explain what you meant.
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
nothing wrong with that is there?
No, exactly. But from some of the complaining on here about it over the past few months you'd think that they were planning on keeping it up all winter but only selling ice creams and sunglasses there
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
[QUOTE=delmbox;5126108]No, exactly. But from some of the complaining on here about it over the past few months you'd think that they were planning on keeping it up all winter but only selling ice creams, sunglasses and PANINIS there
:wave:
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
No, exactly. But from some of the complaining on here about it over the past few months you'd think that they were planning on keeping it up all winter but only selling ice creams and sunglasses there
Cold Panini sandwiches, more like.
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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delmbox
No, exactly. But from some of the complaining on here about it over the past few months you'd think that they were planning on keeping it up all winter but only selling ice creams and sunglasses there
With the reputation the place has got the ice cream would be freezing by the time it got to you!!!
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-...sador-19107203
Two of Cardiff's best-known restaurants have taken the decision to close from Monday to Thursday due to a lack of city centre trade.
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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delmbox
No, exactly. But from some of the complaining on here about it over the past few months you'd think that they were planning on keeping it up all winter but only selling ice creams and sunglasses there
got you! But frankly they only built the eatig area as an excuse to close the road, so now its closed they don't need the thing. They've had time to think of excuses not to open it again.
I know people think I'm just banging on but you only have to go and spend some time in the city centre to see what their plans are doing to the place. It's almost criminal. But people should judge for themselves before they start attacking me. (I didn't mean you in that btw)
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
Castle St to be re-opened? - for taxis busses and cycles. Not as a public thoroughfare
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-...F-AF684D484DA4
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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Originally Posted by
Michael Morris
They will consult.
Like they did when they closed it and didn't tell the bus company in time for it to brief all its drivers, and didn't tell the local shop keepers.
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
They will consult.
Like they did when they closed it and didn't tell the bus company in time for it to brief all its drivers, and didn't tell the local shop keepers.
I’m going to set up a table and parasol and protest about this :hehe:
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Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
I’m going to set up a table and parasol and protest about this :hehe:
Shall I bring the paninis?