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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
Pmsl
this is what we've become :hehe:
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Re: FULHAM v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Splott-light...
I think most of us realised anything more than a temporary contract was an act of soccercide, but alas we have clueless bellwhiffs at the helm.. oh to go back to the days of Bothroyd, Chopra and Kev Mac and excursions to Crystal Palace that I can't remember
:thumbup:Those were the days :hehe::hehe::hehe:
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
PontBlue
That was much better. I hope we don't chuck the players absent tonight back in when fit as the youngsters prove they are the way forward.
This is true
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Well, that was shite.
Now we know why we don't play it out from the back...
we can't.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
:thumbup:Those were the days :hehe::hehe::hehe:
i'm sure they were, I just don't remember them :hehe: :thumbup:
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
goats
So weird why Mickey chose to have a go at one of the best teams in the league away whilst basically just bending over for the last 5 or so….
Can't lose really can he. Play his team and we're expecting to lose or have a go and see what happens.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
Hmm. Another straight talking Yorkshireman with fire in his belly.
He’ll be effective…but I’d prefer a different type of effective if I had a choice.
Wouldn’t mind us getting a homegrown manager or someone from europe or somewhere.
It’ll be Wilder.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
Hmm. Another straight talking Yorkshireman with fire in his belly.
He’ll be effective…but I’d prefer a different type of effective if I had a choice.
Wouldn’t mind us getting a homegrown manager or someone from europe or somewhere.
It’ll be Wilder.
Of the available realistic options, seems the most appropriate.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Splott-light...
i'm sure they were, I just don't remember them :hehe: :thumbup:
What about little old ladies in small villages :hehe::hehe:
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
I doubt it will be Wilder.
More Mick on Saturday anyway which is a huge mistake. We need points badly.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
Can't lose really can he. Play his team and we're expecting to lose or have a go and see what happens.
I thought there were more crumbs today than on Sunday. Good crumbs.
Who cares what Mick does though anyway, he’s on his way and these last few games have just been irrelevant.
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Re: FULHAM v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Splott-light...
I think most of us realised anything more than a temporary contract was an act of soccercide, but alas we have clueless bellwhiffs at the helm.. oh to go back to the days of Bothroyd, Chopra and Kev Mac and excursions to Crystal Palace that I can't remember
We’ll always have Portsmouth
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Re: FULHAM v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
City123
The issue, as ever, is our dreadful midfield
Vaulks is a truly terrible footballer by Championship standards. Absolutely woeful.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
I doubt it will be Wilder.
More Mick on Saturday anyway which is a huge mistake. We need points badly.
Wilder up for the Charlton job
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
What about little old ladies in small villages :hehe::hehe:
:yikes:
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
I doubt it will be Wilder.
More Mick on Saturday anyway which is a huge mistake. We need points badly.
We are in big trouble. We don't even have one player on form, not one of them is performing. That's a massive worry when everyone on the playing side of things is utter shite. Most teams at the bottom can say that there's at least one positive. We were shit before Mick arrived, but it seems like he's rinsed anything good out of this squad.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
We’ll always have Portsmouth
we were in Southampton, stop off prior to the Portsmouth game, is this another Watford/Reading moment Grandad..?
:hehe:
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
az city
Of the available realistic options, seems the most appropriate.
There are accomplished managers and young managers available in other parts of the world who will become better than Wilder.
If your horizons stretch 300 miles or to people who have managed in the top two divisions in england over the last three or four seasons who aren’t gonna ask for huuge wages then yes, Wilder is the most realistic and appropriate option.
He’ll do a job and his football will be a lot more similar to that of the DJ era….he also seems like a decent person.
I would just love it if the club has the type of ambition that Leeds had when they went and got Bielsa. Or the type of gumption than Brentford have shown… something refreshingly un-cardiff. Or even give someone like Rowberry a shot.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
There are accomplished managers and young managers available in other parts of the world who will become better than Wilder.
If your horizons stretch 300 miles or to people who have managed in the top two divisions in england over the last three or four seasons who aren’t gonna ask for huuge wages then yes, Wilder is the most realistic and appropriate option.
He’ll do a job and his football will be a lot more similar to that of the DJ era….he also seems like a decent person.
I would just love it if the club has the type of ambition that Leeds had when they went and got Bielsa. Or the type of gumption than Brentford have shown… something refreshingly un-cardiff. Or even give someone like Rowberry a shot.
I wouldn't be enamoured with Wilder being appointed.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Our youth just aren’t ready
But our more experienced players are crap
Basically we’re crap
Give em a chance.. They need support and encouragement and a bit of patience from us all.
Not saying you don't offer that, obviously an opinion on a game is what it is :thumbup:
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
There are accomplished managers and young managers available in other parts of the world who will become better than Wilder.
If your horizons stretch 300 miles or to people who have managed in the top two divisions in england over the last three or four seasons who aren’t gonna ask for huuge wages then yes, Wilder is the most realistic and appropriate option.
He’ll do a job and his football will be a lot more similar to that of the DJ era….he also seems like a decent person.
I would just love it if the club has the type of ambition that Leeds had when they went and got Bielsa. Or the type of gumption than Brentford have shown… something refreshingly un-cardiff. Or even give someone like Rowberry a shot.
While I agree, I just think he would be the best option in the circs. We're in freefall. We need action quickly or we'll be looking up at Derby.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
We are in big trouble. We don't even have one player on form, not one of them is performing. That's a massive worry when everyone on the playing side of things is utter shite. Most teams at the bottom can say that there's at least one positive. We were shit before Mick arrived, but it seems like he's rinsed anything good out of this squad.
Form can change quickly :thumbup:
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I wouldn't be enamoured with Wilder being appointed.
Neither would I. What is it about him that doesn’t float your boat?
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Cardiff manager Mick McCarthy:
"It leaves me on the back end of a real horrible run of results. If football is true to its usual stuff, we know what happens - but I can't do anything about that.
"We've come back in off a bad defeat against Swansea, we've certainly had a better performance and I'll be doing exactly the same for Middlesbrough until I'm told differently.
"If we perform like that against other teams then we'll win games, but I'm afraid Fulham were too good and too strong for us."
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Daniel15
Cardiff manager Mick McCarthy:
"It leaves me on the back end of a real horrible run of results. If football is true to its usual stuff, we know what happens - but I can't do anything about that.
"We've come back in off a bad defeat against Swansea, we've certainly had a better performance and I'll be doing exactly the same for Middlesbrough until I'm told differently.
"If we perform like that against other teams then we'll win games, but I'm afraid Fulham were too good and too strong for us."
Do the right thing and resign butty ….unless you’re totally skint….which you’re not.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
Form can change quickly :thumbup:
unfortunately shit players under a shit manager can't
:thumbup:
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
Neither would I. What is it about him that doesn’t float your boat?
I think it was the fallout of the second season in the premier league. Sheffield United were disastrous in every respect. So bad that they'd have struggled at championship level. For me, it sort of indicated that Wilder ran out of ideas very quickly and in a warnock kind of way, damaged irreparably any of the good work that he carried out, to the point that it could take sheffield united some time to recover. This may sound harsh, but a more sophisticated Warnock.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I think it was the fallout of the second season in the premier league. Sheffield United were disastrous in every respect. So bad that they'd have struggled at championship level. For me, it sort of indicated that Wilder ran out of ideas very quickly and in a warnock kind of way, damaged irreparably any of the good work that he carried out, to the point that it could take sheffield united some time to recover. This may sound harsh, but a more sophisticated Warnock.
It is harsh. Sheffield United were in League One when Wilder took over, so they definitely benefitted from his time there even if they only manage to stay in the Championship.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
bobh
Well, that was shite.
Now we know why we don't play it out from the back...
we can't.
At least we know we've got the support if we try and change things.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
ToTaL ITK
unfortunately shit players under a shit manager can't
:thumbup:
Word is he won't be here long.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
I thought there were more crumbs today than on Sunday. Good crumbs.
Who cares what Mick does though anyway, he’s on his way and these last few games have just been irrelevant.
I can't comment on the game as I didn't see it but there seemed to be positive changes and a few encouraging performances?
With you on MM he's done pointless keeping that conversation alive.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I think it was the fallout of the second season in the premier league. Sheffield United were disastrous in every respect. So bad that they'd have struggled at championship level. For me, it sort of indicated that Wilder ran out of ideas very quickly and in a warnock kind of way, damaged irreparably any of the good work that he carried out, to the point that it could take sheffield united some time to recover. This may sound harsh, but a more sophisticated Warnock.
Am I right in thinking he was stubborn in his ways as well or am I remembering that differently?
He's obviously done well and could do a job here but I have lingering doubts. It's almost like it's impossible to to please us in this search.. I just don't want a carbon copy again, I am crying out for change.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
We are in big trouble. We don't even have one player on form, not one of them is performing. That's a massive worry when everyone on the playing side of things is utter shite. Most teams at the bottom can say that there's at least one positive. We were shit before Mick arrived, but it seems like he's rinsed anything good out of this squad.
He went all in on one idea, one career long plan that didn't work out.
You'd hope with a newer type manager they'd have a bit more in the arsenal, I certainly think the newer managers are more bold and brave. We need a new type of thinking.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
I'm not sure he'd understand the nuances of the game
Basketball is his game.
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Re: FULHAM v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
City123
Evans has looked bright
Colwill looked very good first half
The issue, as ever, is our dreadful midfield
Evans didn't play at all.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
ToTaL ITK
unfortunately shit players under a shit manager can't
:thumbup:
The players are good enough.
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Evans didn't play at all.
He came on for Colwill after 73 mins
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Re: FULHAM v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Evans didn't play at all.
Ooops.....
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Re: FULHAM v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Evans didn't play at all.
Finally you admit to not actually us. Boring windup merchant
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Re: FT: FULHAM 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
Am I right in thinking he was stubborn in his ways as well or am I remembering that differently?
He's obviously done well and could do a job here but I have lingering doubts. It's almost like it's impossible to to please us in this search.. I just don't want a carbon copy again, I am crying out for change.
He lost his way in the market, seemingly had no idea how to improve the side at that level and they ended up signing some stinkers. Maybe he was too loyal to the system and players that got Sheffield United to the PL and didn't want to rock the boat too much.
I'd take Wilder tomorrow if he was up for it, he's not exactly a young manager but he's not in the dinosaur category and I think he's less of a risk than going completely left-field and getting young progressive manager (I'd love us to move toward that eventually, but I don't think it's feasible with the squad we have right now). Priority has to be avoiding relegation this season and hopefully we can rebuild next season when a ton of contracts are up, I think Wilder is a good choice for that job.