-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Racism will always exist . People are not born racist . They learn it , often from their parents . And some people are not just racist in attitude they are serious neo nazi activists . We can't change people like that , they need to be dealt with by the law .
In general I liken dealing with racism to dealing and learning to live with a chronic illness. Diabetes , kidney problems , arthritis etc
The Psychiatrist who treats me said you have suffered with depression and anxiety since your early years , your father suffered with depression , your mother and your uncle . You have to accept that you will always have a problem with it but you can manage it and confine it to a small part of life . Take the drugs I suggest , avoid alcohol , go fishing to relax , go for a walk
If society is to deal,with racism it has to accept that whether we like it or not an element of people in this country are racist . An extreme element are criminally racist and need to be in prison .
If action is going to be taken on racism , say the knee protest faded from football which I think it will then we need to ensure firstly education is at the forefront . From a young age children are taught about different cultures , some will already be learning racist views from their home , nothing can be done about that .
That education needs to continue in colleges , the workplace
The police need to be praised and supported when they do a good job and they must be helped to weed out and convict if needed racist police officers .
Instead of offering jobs to people from ethnic minorities serving burgers on match day at cardiff city .....a statement made by a cardiff city employee when asked by a black youth worker what sort of jobs are on offer to the local community at the new stadium , football and society in general should reach out and be far more affirmative ......I agree with positive discrimination , many dont
We can support the knee protest for as long as we want but if someone makes a racist insult at a game then we either report it and get that person dealt with ....or we keep sitting on our hands .
I am not racist I don't agree with the knee protest , it needs to be stopped , action needs to be taken but I , the football club and society in general don't want to take any action .
.
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
They are a piss take out of middle age blokes sitting in front of the computer
I used to work for a charity helping people with housing problems in Riverside and referred many young women to the police or womens aid after they disclosed information to me . And referred many more young women to cardiff single women's housing project which helped young women fleeing violenc sand abuse
I know that I am not a sexist misogynist , believe in equality for all and have actually supported vulnerable women and helped them escape violence and abuse and get the right support from the right agency .
I know that
But I also know that you are a racist
I get that and well done for doing such great work. That is brilliant. But, one of the things that puts me off this board is you and your creepy objectification of women. Just saying, pull your ****ing head in mate. You come across as a complete sleazy ****er. Just my opinion like. It's like you have male karen messageboard Tourette syndrome.
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-pl...om-for-anthems
"Is it authentic? That's the mystery," the video begins. "Or is it just another symbolic victory....Do we kneel, do we stand? If we can just right our wrongs we wouldn't need..We don't need another publicity parade. So we'll just stay inside until it's time to play the game."
Players go on to call on owners with "influence and pockets bigger than ours to call up officials and flex political power" in lieu of "fluff and empty gestures."
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
So if ferdinando is right and its time for action , what action are you going to take now regarding racial injustice ?
Er, I think that you should be asking Sir Les not me. What an odd question. :shrug:
I have never felt the need to take a knee myself, but then again I'm not a high profile sports person. Maybe you have though? :shrug:
Maybe YOU can list what YOU are doing? (so that we can all ignore it :-) :thumbup:)
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Brisbane CCFC
I get that and well done for doing such great work. That is brilliant. But, one of the things that puts me off this board is you and your creepy objectification of women. Just saying, pull your ****ing head in mate. You come across as a complete sleazy ****er. Just my opinion like. It's like you have male karen messageboard Tourette syndrome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSLlZh9yelk
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Brisbane CCFC
I get that and well done for doing such great work. That is brilliant. But, one of the things that puts me off this board is you and your creepy objectification of women. Just saying, pull your ****ing head in mate. You come across as a complete sleazy ****er. Just my opinion like. It's like you have male karen messageboard Tourette syndrome.
Spot on, and he has the audacity to label anyone who offers a different view point, a racist.
Shame he doesn’t seem to care as much about the MeToo movement, as he does BLM.
This is a bloke who posts literally thousands of sexist’s comments about women, on a football messageboard.
A right misogynist weirdo!
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Either I've got him completely wrong over a period of about twenty years, or some people just don't get the joke with Sludge and his posts about women - that joke is told against himself more often than not,
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Bluebird23
Spot on, and he has the audacity to label anyone who offers a different view point, a racist.
Shame he doesn’t seem to care as much about the MeToo movement, as he does BLM.
This is a bloke who posts literally thousands of sexist’s comments about women, on a football messageboard.
A right misogynist weirdo!
Nice to see you've lowered yourself to personal attacks.
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Either I've got him completely wrong over a period of about twenty years, or some people just don't get the joke with Sludge and his posts about women - that joke is told against himself more often than not,
Exactly Bob. There’s no way Sludge is a full on perv and what man on this board didn’t had a wank over Diana Rigg?
There’s some right weirdos on here sometimes.
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Jordi Culé
Exactly Bob. There’s no way Sludge is a full on perv and what man on this board didn’t had a wank over Diana Rigg?
There’s some right weirdos on here sometimes.
Agreed, Sludge is a good 'un
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Either I've got him completely wrong over a period of about twenty years, or some people just don't get the joke with Sludge and his posts about women - that joke is told against himself more often than not,
Very much so. That's the general point that gets missed. In the old days he often told us short ditties about failed dates, always from the angle of it being the woman's fault but, when read, it was the opposite case, but he knew that and it was some form of self deprecation. Organ Morgan's regular tales added to this and a message board character was born, one Sludge adopted for a laugh.
The only ones kicking up a fuss about this are the ones who dislike his political stance and have chosen to attack him. Such seems to be the way with some on the right. I've seen enough on social media.
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Either I've got him completely wrong over a period of about twenty years, or some people just don't get the joke with Sludge and his posts about women - that joke is told against himself more often than not,
But even if you ‘understand’ that, they aren’t even remotely funny and never have been.
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
But even if you ‘understand’ that, they aren’t even remotely funny and never have been.
So, is he accused of making jokes that aren't funny, like all of us do from time to time, or of being "a misogynist weirdo"? There's a pretty big difference between those two things.
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
If these clubs are being truthful and want to move on to other action then fine. I really hope they are though and its not a couple of players or a player were going to stop doing it.(thats fine as well for individuals)
Say we signed a player from QPR what would he do now pre match?
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Sludge keeps this board going on times, when it’s on the wane he invariably drops a few hand grenades, all part of messageboard fun as far as I’m concerned. I know he’s threatened to down tools on times but, fair play to him, he never does and piles back in to his detractors, rightly or wrongly. The ones who joust with him most probably subconsciously enjoy it as why wouldn’t they solve their problem by putting him on ignore, they accuse him of trying to sort of brainwash us but by vigorously arguing back they’re falling into his trap of making them show their true colours. Skip past him if he bothers you, I certainly do when I detect a thread that he starts about that dreadful noise that he reckons is music:thumbup:
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
So, is he accused of making jokes that aren't funny, like all of us do from time to time, or of being "a misogynist weirdo"? There's a pretty big difference between those two things.
Not really. If you are going to make highly sexist (or racist) ‘jokes’ I’d be extremely wary of doing so on a public message board. Would he say them at work? Would he say them to a large group of people? Maybe to people he knew very well who understood that sort of ‘humour’.
The posts have never been funny and due to their nature are highly likely to offend some people.
Just pointless.
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
Not really. If you are going to make highly sexist (or racist) ‘jokes’ I’d be extremely wary of doing so on a public message board. Would he say them at work? Would he say them to a large group of people? Maybe to people he knew very well who understood that sort of ‘humour’.
The posts have never been funny and due to their nature are highly likely to offend some people.
Just pointless.
Bobby D. Theres loads of pointless drivel posted on this board. I contribute greatly to that although in my defence I'm blaming lockdown.
Sludges posts are irreverent and acting as a parody character as someone who whilst not posting on here spends hours of his time either fishing or waanking over Redtube.
It's quite observant really but the one thing hes got wrong is I ****ing hate fishing.
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
Not really. If you are going to make highly sexist (or racist) ‘jokes’ I’d be extremely wary of doing so on a public message board. Would he say them at work? Would he say them to a large group of people? Maybe to people he knew very well who understood that sort of ‘humour’.
The posts have never been funny and due to their nature are highly likely to offend some people.
Just pointless.
Yet there are comics who come out with a million times worse than Sludge in a public performance.
Last night I caught up with Frankie Boyle's latest series. You either find him funny or not, I like his humour as it's not even on the edge, but he's also a very good wordsmith. A couple of friends of mine used to be big fans of his, but now don't like him as he takes the piss out of Boris Johnson. I guess everyone has their line.
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Sludge's jokes about women are clearly parody, and I suspect those who accuse him otherwise know that but are enjoying a pile in because he sticks to his guns about what he believes in
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
UNDERHILL1927
Nice to see you've lowered yourself to personal attacks.
I guess you chose to overlook his posts where he labelled those of us opposed to the ongoing knee situation, racists!
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Bluebird23
I guess you chose to overlook his posts where he labelled those of us opposed to the ongoing knee situation, racists!
It's all your other posts that make you out as a racist tbh
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
Not really. If you are going to make highly sexist (or racist) ‘jokes’ I’d be extremely wary of doing so on a public message board. Would he say them at work? Would he say them to a large group of people? Maybe to people he knew very well who understood that sort of ‘humour’.
The posts have never been funny and due to their nature are highly likely to offend some people.
Just pointless.
Well said, Bobby.
Why are people up in arms on this thread because some of us are fed up with the knee, and the narrative we’re all racists. Even if we make statistical posts showing the situation in America, is not like the media would have you believe.
Yet, they consider many of Sludge’s demeaning posts about women, as ‘jokes.’
Double standards.
Our fan base is not racist in my opinion, I posted previously I’ve personally heard one comment in over 30 years of attending City and Wales games.
Yet Sludge labels our fan base, with half a dozen comments of incidents he’s seen/heard.
Which are a small handful, when you consider the millions in total, through the gates over those years.
Pretty much all of us abhor racism, but it won’t be eradicated by taking the knee and a black power fist salute. And god help us if the Police were defunded, as they want.
Credit to Les Ferdinand in coming out and speaking so well about it, this week.
Change will only come about through the parents, and how they raise their kids in future generations.
As for Sludge, maybe he should give as much consideration to women, as he does to BLM.
And don’t insult others by labelling them unjustly, as racists.
When it comes to name calling, he shouldn’t give it out, if he can’t take it back.
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
It's all your other posts that make you out as a racist tbh
Show me one?
-
Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Bluebird23
Well said, Bobby.
Why are people up in arms on this thread because some of us are fed up with the knee, and the narrative we’re all racists. Even if we make statistical posts showing the situation in America, is not like the media would have you believe.
Yet, they consider many of Sludge’s demeaning posts about women, as ‘jokes.’
Double standards.
Our fan base is not racist in my opinion, I posted previously I’ve personally heard one comment in over 30 years of attending City and Wales games.
Yet Sludge labels our fan base, with half a dozen comments of incidents he’s seen/heard.
Which are a small handful, when you consider the millions in total, through the gates over those years.
Pretty much all of us abhor racism, but it won’t be eradicated by taking the knee and a black power fist salute. And god help us if the Police were defunded, as they want.
Credit to Les Ferdinand in coming out and speaking so well about it, this week.
Change will only come about through the parents, and how they raise their kids in future generations.
As for Sludge, maybe he should give as much consideration to women, as he does to BLM.
And don’t insult others by labelling them unjustly, as racists.
When it comes to name calling, he shouldn’t give it out, if he can’t take it back.
Bang on.
