Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

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"Virtue signalling is the conspicuous expression of moral values done primarily with the intent of enhancing standing within a social group.The term was first used in signalling theory, to describe any behavior that could be used to signal virtue—especially piety among the religious. In recent years, the term has become more commonly used as a pejorative characterization by commentators to criticize what they regard as empty, or superficial support of certain political views, and also used within groups to criticize their own members for valuing outward appearance over substantive action."

Now if that isn't a fine example of virtue signalling by our esteemed member Rjk, then I don't know what is!

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From Wikipedia

"Virtue signalling is the conspicuous expression of moral values done primarily with the intent of enhancing standing within a social group.The term was first used in signalling theory, to describe any behavior that could be used to signal virtue—especially piety among the religious. In recent years, the term has become more commonly used as a pejorative characterization by commentators to criticize what they regard as empty, or superficial support of certain political views, and also used within groups to criticize their own members for valuing outward appearance over substantive action."

Now if that isn't a fine example of virtue signalling by our esteemed member Rjk, then I don't know what is!

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I look at it as a form of sexual advertising. You are showing that you are fair and generous. These are good attributes in a potential mate. Unfortunately my theory doesn't work on this site. Apart from Sludge and Organ I doubt if any poster is sexually deprived - or depraved - enough to see us as potential sexual partners.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

From Wikipedia

"Virtue signalling is the conspicuous expression of moral values done primarily with the intent of enhancing standing within a social group.The term was first used in signalling theory, to describe any behavior that could be used to signal virtue—especially piety among the religious. In recent years, the term has become more commonly used as a pejorative characterization by commentators to criticize what they regard as empty, or superficial support of certain political views, and also used within groups to criticize their own members for valuing outward appearance over substantive action."

Now if that isn't a fine example of virtue signalling by our esteemed member Rjk, then I don't know what is!

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Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself:-)

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Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself:-)

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I see it more as a factual statement. You are either virtue signalling or you're not. There are no grey areas here I'm afraid.

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I see it more as a factual statement. You are either virtue signalling or you're not. There are no grey areas here I'm afraid.

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Nonsense. A bit of empathy was shown to someone suffering due to a horrible incident and you’ve turned into your usual conspiracy theory use a cliche to attempt to make yourself sound clever.

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

Nonsense. A bit of empathy was shown to someone suffering due to a horrible incident and you’ve turned into your usual conspiracy theory use a cliche to attempt to make yourself sound clever.

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I haven't turned it into anything, I was just responding to Auntie Andy's 'most deadly deadly nerve agent known to man' observations!

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I haven't turned it into anything, I was just responding to Auntie Andy's 'most deadly deadly nerve agent known to man' observations!

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They're saying you responded in a c**ty way, mate.

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Originally Posted by lardy

They're saying you responded in a c**ty way, mate.

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Oh no, here comes another SJW :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Oh no, here comes another SJW :biggrin:

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You don't even know what all these terms mean, do you?

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You don't even know what all these terms mean, do you?

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I know about the rules for radicals :wink:

At long last Russia points accusing finger at Britain for Salisbury attack. Ambassador Alexander Yakovenko told Russian TV that the Kremlin has a “very serious suspicion that this provocation was one by British intelligence”.

Russia claims Britain ‘STAGED poisoning of Skripal to turn people against Putin' - https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...ry-uk-evidence

It’s the Russians, it’s the Russians, it’s definitely the Russians.

Oh hang on experts state we are unable to identify 'precise source' of novichok that poisoned Russian spy.

https://news.sky.com/story/porton-do...d-spy-11315387

P45 for Maybot and Boris :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by Auntie Andy

It’s the Russians, it’s the Russians, it’s definitely the Russians.

Oh hang on experts state we are unable to identify 'precise source' of novichok that poisoned Russian spy.

https://news.sky.com/story/porton-do...d-spy-11315387

P45 for Maybot and Boris :facepalm:

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Yes but Corbyn is a traitor for daring to ask questions about the origins of this nerve agent. How dare he think we should be certain before throwing our toys out of the pram.

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Originally Posted by Auntie Andy

It’s the Russians, it’s the Russians, it’s definitely the Russians.

Oh hang on experts state we are unable to identify 'precise source' of novichok that poisoned Russian spy.

https://news.sky.com/story/porton-do...d-spy-11315387

P45 for Maybot and Boris :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Hilarious.
"You are susceptible to propaganda, oh and by the way, here's a blog that explains why it is all a conspiracy"

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It looks like the ex-British Ambassador's sources were correct :sherlock:

Attachment 2286

https://twitter.com/politicsjoe_uk/s...738810369?s=21

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https://twitter.com/politicsjoe_uk/s...738810369?s=21

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I hope you’re not suggesting that Johnson is a lying, cheating scumbag.

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

I hope you’re not suggesting that Johnson is a lying, cheating scumbag.

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Guilty as charged Sir :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

It looks like the ex-British Ambassador's sources were correct :sherlock:

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Does it?

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Does it?

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Sky News appear to be reporting the same information?

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Sky News appear to be reporting the same information?

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What the mainstream media?

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What the mainstream media?

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I'd be more inclined to believe the ex-Ambassador and his high-level contacts at Porton Down, so try not to get too sidetracked by the involvement of the MSM.

Foreign Office deletes Tweet.

JC probably did it, with a beetroot, wearing a Russian hat whilst talking to the wrong type of Jew.

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status...835161600?s=21

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Foreign Office deletes Tweet.

JC probably did it, with a beetroot, wearing a Russian hat whilst talking to the wrong type of Jew.

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status...835161600?s=21

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Potordown can't prove the source (thats not there job a anyway , that investigation belongs to others ).

What we do know it's a Russian produced nerve agent and it theres to control .

We know what Russia thinks of ex spies as that is in the public domain .

We know why nerve agents are produced (to kill )

I do agree , Mr Corbyn can have tea whoever he choses, and sing whatever songs he wants to, we know the reason why .

And yes Boris is a clown .

May, Johnson and the Defence Secretary need to go.

- The UK Foreign Office denies claiming the nerve agent used in the Salisbury poisoning of the Skripals came directly from Russia. Despite admitting it sent a tweet saying exactly that, and Boris Johnson making the same claim.

The UK Foreign Office has admitted it deleted the tweet which directly stated that the nerve agent, identified by the UK as A-234 – also known as Novichok- used in the Salisbury poisoning of the Skripals, came direct from Russia.

This week British government scientists admitted they couldn’t tell where the poison came from, undermining a number of claims to come out of the Foreign Office. -

More: https://www.rt.com/uk/423162-russia-...nment-twitter/

North Korea has been neutralised, everyone needs a bogeyman, why not return to the biggest and baddest of the lot, Russia recently announced the testing of new nukes, the Don has a new defence budget bigger than all before, what could possibly go wrong ?

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North Korea has been neutralised, everyone needs a bogeyman, why not return to the biggest and baddest of the lot, Russia recently announced the testing of new nukes, the Don has a new defence budget bigger than all before, what could possibly go wrong ?

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Has it?

Father and daughter make miraculous recovery.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43652574

Well, I never.

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Father and daughter make miraculous recovery.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43652574

Well, I never.

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All's well that ends well.

But he’s dying, he will never recover mun. It’s the most deadly poison there is.

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But he’s dying, he will never recover mun. It’s the most deadly poison there is.

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It's true, Rjk confirmed it. Very sad :frown:

He said and I quote.

“So she's still in hospital having almost been murdered, possibly with life changing injuries, and her father is still in a coma and may never recover, and you don't think it's a bit low to throw out a whimsical suggestion that they faked it all "to make the Russians look bad" ?”

The only ones looking bad are the useless Tory’s. Sack the feckin lot of them.

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He said and I quote.

“So she's still in hospital having almost been murdered, possibly with life changing injuries, and her father is still in a coma and may never recover, and you don't think it's a bit low to throw out a whimsical suggestion that they faked it all "to make the Russians look bad" ?”

The only ones looking bad are the useless Tory’s. Sack the feckin lot of them.

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We'll Easter has just passed, and Jesus rose from the dead, so maybe they were inspired? Stranger things have happened ..

Viktoria: Hello?

Alleged Yulia: Hello. Do you hear me?

Viktoria: Yes, I hear you.

Alleged Yulia: It is Yulia Skripal.

Viktoria: Oh, Yulka [diminutive of Yulia] it is you! I recognise from your voice that it is you but cannot understand. So, they gave you a telephone, didn't they?

Alleged Yulia: Yes, yes.

Viktoria: Thanks God! Yulyash [diminutive of Yulia], is everything okay with you?

Alleged Yulia: Everything is ok, everything is fine.

Viktoria: Look, if tomorrow I get a (British) visa, I will come to you on Monday.

Alleged Yulia: Vika, no-one will give you the visa.

Viktoria: Well I thought so too. Oh well.

Alleged Yulia: Most likely.

Viktoria: If they give it, I need you to tell me whether I can visit you or not, tell me that I can.

Alleged Yulia: I think no, there is such a situation now, we'll sort it out later.

Viktoria: I know it, I know it all.

Alleged Yulia: Later, we will get it sorted later, everything's fine, we'll see later.

Viktoria: Is it your phone?

Alleged Yulia: It is a temporary phone. Everything is fine, but we'll see how it goes, we'll decide later. You know what the situation is here. Everything is fine, everything is solvable, everyone (he and her father) is recovering and is alive.

Viktoria: Clear! Is everything ok with your father?

Alleged Yulia: Everything is ok. He is resting now, having a sleep. Everyone's health is fine, there are no irreparable things. I will be discharged soon. Everything is ok.

Viktoria: Kisses, my bunny.

Alleged Yulia: Bye.

Alleged Yulia: Bye.

It's allegedly alledged?

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Has it?

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I own up, I've not read every newspaper over the past few weeks, but since young Kim has been freed from his CIA handlers, and a meeting agreed in principle with Thumper, I've not seen him threatening to launch nukes all over the shop, if he has I've missed it :thumbup:

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Viktoria: Hello?

Alleged Yulia: Hello. Do you hear me?

Viktoria: Yes, I hear you.

Alleged Yulia: It is Yulia Skripal.

Viktoria: Oh, Yulka [diminutive of Yulia] it is you! I recognise from your voice that it is you but cannot understand. So, they gave you a telephone, didn't they?

Alleged Yulia: Yes, yes.

Viktoria: Thanks God! Yulyash [diminutive of Yulia], is everything okay with you?

Alleged Yulia: Everything is ok, everything is fine.

Viktoria: Look, if tomorrow I get a (British) visa, I will come to you on Monday.

Alleged Yulia: Vika, no-one will give you the visa.

Viktoria: Well I thought so too. Oh well.

Alleged Yulia: Most likely.

Viktoria: If they give it, I need you to tell me whether I can visit you or not, tell me that I can.

Alleged Yulia: I think no, there is such a situation now, we'll sort it out later.

Viktoria: I know it, I know it all.

Alleged Yulia: Later, we will get it sorted later, everything's fine, we'll see later.

Viktoria: Is it your phone?

Alleged Yulia: It is a temporary phone. Everything is fine, but we'll see how it goes, we'll decide later. You know what the situation is here. Everything is fine, everything is solvable, everyone (he and her father) is recovering and is alive.

Viktoria: Clear! Is everything ok with your father?

Alleged Yulia: Everything is ok. He is resting now, having a sleep. Everyone's health is fine, there are no irreparable things. I will be discharged soon. Everything is ok.

Viktoria: Kisses, my bunny.

Alleged Yulia: Bye.

Alleged Yulia: Bye.

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Definitely Viktoria then?

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Definitely Viktoria then?

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Apparently :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Nelsonca61

I own up, I've not read every newspaper over the past few weeks, but since young Kim has been freed from his CIA handlers, and a meeting agreed in principle with Thumper, I've not seen him threatening to launch nukes all over the shop, if he has I've missed it :thumbup:

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ah right if he hasn't said anything for a couple of weeks then it's probably all over nice one mate glad you sorted it for us it was just the cia all along

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Originally Posted by lardy

ah right if he hasn't said anything for a couple of weeks then it's probably all over nice one mate glad you sorted it for us it was just the cia all along

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No worries sport :thumbup: one has to keep one's finger on the ball, little 5.5 earthquake just off Cali coast last night?, or was it MOAB's ending a child trafficking operation?.