Is it going to kick off this weekend in the pubs in england ?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

No you soppy clown

I am saying I can understand why people were angry enough with racism to take the streets

I cannot understand why people went out and got pissed on saturday , what cause were they supporting ?

The damaged liver appreciation society ?

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"Racism and police brutality needs to be challenged wherever it happens"

sounds like a direct endorsement

Maybe they want to support the economy? Guess we can all come up for justifications for why people would break social distancing rules

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

"Racism and police brutality needs to be challenged wherever it happens"

sounds like a direct endorsement

Maybe they want to support the economy? Guess we can all come up for justifications for why people would break social distancing rules

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Course they were , they were supporting the economy , brave warriors that they were

They were a bunch of chancers , as were the idiots who flooded the beach at bournemouth

Let's say a number of prominent mps were arrested and charged with child abuse offences this summer and it leaked out all over the internet that they had been filming what went on . They were caught on camera and were bang to rights .

They are given police protection

Several thousand people break the lockdown , many being parents of young children and are involved in scuffles with the police

These people broke the lockdown but they had a cause they believed in . And I would fully understand why they broke the lockdown

But the thousands of people pissed up in soho falling over each other ?

The save the economy society ?

They are just a bunch of idiotic piss artists , no cause , just hedonistic

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Course they were , they were supporting the economy , brave warriors that they were

They were a bunch of chancers , as were the idiots who flooded the beach at bournemouth

Let's say a number of prominent mps were arrested and charged with child abuse offences this summer and it leaked out all over the internet that they had been filming what went on . They were caught on camera and were bang to rights .

They are given police protection

Several thousand people break the lockdown , many being parents of young children and are involved in scuffles with the police

These people broke the lockdown but they had a cause they believed in . And I would fully understand why they broke the lockdown

But the thousands of people pissed up in soho falling over each other ?

The save the economy society ?

They are just a bunch of idiotic piss artists , no cause , just hedonistic

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You really are looking for a piece of driftwood to cling to now! :hehe:

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Course they were , they were supporting the economy , brave warriors that they were

They were a bunch of chancers , as were the idiots who flooded the beach at bournemouth

Let's say a number of prominent mps were arrested and charged with child abuse offences this summer and it leaked out all over the internet that they had been filming what went on . They were caught on camera and were bang to rights .

They are given police protection

Several thousand people break the lockdown , many being parents of young children and are involved in scuffles with the police

These people broke the lockdown but they had a cause they believed in . And I would fully understand why they broke the lockdown

But the thousands of people pissed up in soho falling over each other ?

The save the economy society ?

They are just a bunch of idiotic piss artists , no cause , just hedonistic

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what the **** are you rambling on about

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

what the **** are you rambling on about

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Well you suggested anyone could find an excuse for breaking the lockdown

I have offered police racism and child abuse

You have suggested drunk people trying to kick start the economy

I know who I am siding with when it comes to just cause

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

You really are looking for a piece of driftwood to cling to now! :hehe:

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Llandaff blue suggested anyone could find a reason or cause to break the lockdown

So here are two causes I think most people would understand people breaking a lockdown for

Racism and child sexual abusers being shielded

Llandaff blue thinks people getting pissed up in soho and falling over each other also have just cause for breaking social distancing

I have my concerns about that

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Well you suggested anyone could find an excuse for breaking the lockdown

I have offered police racism and child abuse

You have suggested drunk people trying to kick start the economy

I know who I am siding with when it comes to just cause

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You've missed the point, again. It's not about picking sides, it's about acknowledging both BLM protests and any other mass gatherings (beaches, people congregating outside pubs) is wrong as they both break the rules that are set out and will result in potential infections, the virus doesn't care that you're protesting racism. You criticised Boris for denouncing one and congratulating the other, while doing the exact same thing yourself. Hypocritical moron

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

You've missed the point, again. It's not about picking sides, it's about acknowledging both BLM protests and any other mass gatherings (beaches, people congregating outside pubs) is wrong as they both break the rules that are set out and will result in potential infections, the virus doesn't care that you're protesting racism. You criticised Boris for denouncing one and congratulating the other, while doing the exact same thing yourself. Hypocritical moron

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I will continue to understand why people with strong feelings break social isolation for just causes , wether it's right or wrong is up to the police and courts

You continue to side with people who are just happy to go out and get leathered

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Llandaff blue suggested anyone could find a reason or cause to break the lockdown

So here are two causes I think most people would understand people breaking a lockdown for

Racism and child sexual abusers being shielded

Llandaff blue thinks people getting pissed up in soho and falling over each other also have just cause for breaking social distancing

I have my concerns about that

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No I don't, you are actually thick as shit. My response about supporting the economy was flippant, that is quite obvious if you are capable of reading the conversation. I am pointing out your hypocrisy

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I will continue to understand why people with strong feelings break social isolation for just causes , wether it's right or wrong is up to the police and courts

You continue to side with people who are just happy to go out and get leathered

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

It's not about picking sides, it's about acknowledging both BLM protests and any other mass gatherings (beaches, people congregating outside pubs) is wrong

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taken your meds tonight mate?

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

taken your meds tonight mate?

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What meds are those ?

I may not be the equivalent of einstein but I do ok

Went to a pub in Brixton. Didn't see any carnage much to your disappointment.


Fact of the matter is at some point they had to reopen, or do we just sit about twiddling our thumbs until a vaccine is maybe made?


I assume you will be sticking to the 2m and not attending any events with social gatherings until such a vaccine is produced?

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

Went to a pub in Brixton. Didn't see any carnage much to your disappointment.


Fact of the matter is at some point they had to reopen, or do we just sit about twiddling our thumbs until a vaccine is maybe made?


I assume you will be sticking to the 2m and not attending any events with social gatherings until such a vaccine is produced?

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Well a lot of medical experts think this pub lark is a step too far , too quickly

The inept management of this virus is one reason why it has lingered in the uk so long

I dont bother with pubs but certainly wont be going to any metal gigs for a long time if that answers your question

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

Went to a pub in Brixton. Didn't see any carnage much to your disappointment.


Fact of the matter is at some point they had to reopen, or do we just sit about twiddling our thumbs until a vaccine is maybe made?


I assume you will be sticking to the 2m and not attending any events with social gatherings until such a vaccine is produced?

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Out of interest, did everyone ‘out’ maintain the social distancing measures, was everyone able to?

Genuine question.

https://www-liverpoolecho-co-uk.cdn....-pubs-18546461

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Originally Posted by Hilts

https://www-liverpoolecho-co-uk.cdn....-pubs-18546461

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Be fair, the story was really about 2 men fighting outside a pub and a girl falling over

There are people on this thread trying to post stories showing the whole country drunk and rioting on Saturday. But the real truth is it passed of relatively quietly, much quieter than a normal Saturday afternoon/night in a lot of places, which considering that the people hadn't been out to the pub for about 15 weeks shows a remarkable level of good decision making really.

what is really happening is that a certain number of people were so determined that saturday was going to be mayhem and "Carnage" so they could blame the government are so gutted that it didn't happen that they are trawling everywhere the can to find a single story that backs up their claim.
They posted all the trouble as 'Fact' before it ever happened and don't have the balls to admit they were wrong.
It didn't happen - get over it!! People should be happy it didn't instead of desperately trying to prove that it did.

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

There are people on this thread trying to post stories showing the whole country drunk and rioting on Saturday. But the real truth is it passed of relatively quietly, much quieter than a normal Saturday afternoon/night in a lot of places, which considering that the people hadn't been out to the pub for about 15 weeks shows a remarkable level of good decision making really.

what is really happening is that a certain number of people were so determined that saturday was going to be mayhem and "Carnage" so they could blame the government are so gutted that it didn't happen that they are trawling everywhere the can to find a single story that backs up their claim.
They posted all the trouble as 'Fact' before it ever happened and don't have the balls to admit they were wrong.
It didn't happen - get over it!! People should be happy it didn't instead of desperately trying to prove that it did.

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To be fair your defence of your mate is admirable.

On to his next feck up.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

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To be fair your defence of your mate is admirable.

On to his next feck up.

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A perfect example of what I mean. firstly by he I assume you mean Boris Johnson. He is not 'my mate'.
Secondly you still will not concede that last saturday was not the carnage confidently predicted. The vast majority of reports seem to say the opposite.
But hey, it doesn't matter, you just keep on with your blinkered view of everything. If you want to beleive it was carnage then go on believing it.
But lets seem what happens when Wales is 'unlocked'.

Quite quiet still round my neck of the woods (middle class, zone 2 south London). Had a pub crawl of sorts round my square mile before the derby kicked off to have a nose and only one out of five I passed was open, mainly catering for clients outside.

Well far from the madding crowds, my corner of England went as follows:

8.5 mile walk around Porlock/Bossington Bay area on Saturday. Finished off with a pint of Exmoor beast in a pub garden filled with happy faces and acting very responsibly. Fish and chips followed.
9.5 mile walk west of Porlock Weir and finished off with a pint of Exmoor Stag in a pub garden filled with happy faces and acting very responsibly.

No rioting or inappropriate contact observed.

TBG
Somerset
News At Eleven

1000 complaints in Cornwall

BBC News - Coronavirus: 'Crystal clear' drunk people will not socially distance
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53296689

Soho looked busy mind with not much trouble if any reported.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

1000 complaints in Cornwall

BBC News - Coronavirus: 'Crystal clear' drunk people will not socially distance
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53296689

Soho looked busy mind with not much trouble if any reported.

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Not all negative news from the article.

Addressing concerns raised by Mr Apter, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said people had largely acted responsibly, saying the "vast majority of people are, I think, doing the right thing".

He told Sky News' Sophy Ridge: "Overall I'm pleased with what happened yesterday, it was really good to see people out and about and very largely social distancing."

Sir Simon Stevens, NHS England chief executive, told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show: "Pleasingly, we did not see last night the kind of scenes that people feared might be. It was the foolish few, but the sensible majority."

Rob Moore, paramedic at the West Midlands Ambulance Service, told BBC Breakfast it had been a "really average" night shift in his area.

"We were really prepared for a sudden upsurge in calls related to people being out drinking but it hasn't happened thankfully," he said. "Hopefully it's a sign people have heeded the advice and had a sensible night."

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

1000 complaints in Cornwall

BBC News - Coronavirus: 'Crystal clear' drunk people will not socially distance
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53296689

Soho looked busy mind with not much trouble if any reported.

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The people of Devon and Cornwall are all bent out of shape because people have been flocking to the coast for a holiday or to their holiday homes.

I imagine West Wales are going to be the same once the caravan parks open up down there.

Ive booked a cottage for 4 days near Tenby / Saundersfoot at the end of August as I had an Air B&B voucher to use after Croatia got cancelled. They requested we take our own food or order for an online delivery and dont use the local supermarkets. I can live with that. Well be ordering chinese from my favourite chinese Sao Mao in Saundersfoot on at least 2 of the 4 nights.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

The people of Devon and Cornwall are all bent out of shape because people have been flocking to the coast for a holiday or to their holiday homes.

I imagine West Wales are going to be the same once the caravan parks open up down there.

Ive booked a cottage for 4 days near Tenby / Saundersfoot at the end of August as I had an Air B&B voucher to use after Croatia got cancelled. They requested we take our own food or order for an online delivery and dont use the local supermarkets. I can live with that. Well be ordering chinese from my favourite chinese Sao Mao in Saundersfoot on at least 2 of the 4 nights.

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Why dont you cook the chinese yourself , given your ancestry?

Be a shame to waste money

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Originally Posted by Jordi Culé

Out of interest, did everyone ‘out’ maintain the social distancing measures, was everyone able to?

Genuine question.

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We were placed in a booth in a very large beer garden so we kept to ourselves, the indoors of the pub wasn't open for sitting in, though the bar was which was the thing I found most surprising, that you could go to the bar. Generally speaking I don't think people got up apart from to get a drink/toilet, probably as much social distancing observed in your average supermarket, people trying but not always possible.

Certainly wasn't much intergroup mingling or standing around - the staff were pretty keen on checking up on people.

It won't last though.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

The people of Devon and Cornwall are all bent out of shape because people have been flocking to the coast for a holiday or to their holiday homes.

I imagine West Wales are going to be the same once the caravan parks open up down there.

Ive booked a cottage for 4 days near Tenby / Saundersfoot at the end of August as I had an Air B&B voucher to use after Croatia got cancelled. They requested we take our own food or order for an online delivery and dont use the local supermarkets. I can live with that. Well be ordering chinese from my favourite chinese Sao Mao in Saundersfoot on at least 2 of the 4 nights.

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Nice Matt. I notice you forgot to use many of these () in your post though. You feeling alright?

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

We were placed in a booth in a very large beer garden so we kept to ourselves, the indoors of the pub wasn't open for sitting in, though the bar was which was the thing I found most surprising, that you could go to the bar. Generally speaking I don't think people got up apart from to get a drink/toilet, probably as much social distancing observed in your average supermarket, people trying but not always possible.

Certainly wasn't much intergroup mingling or standing around - the staff were pretty keen on checking up on people.

It won't last though.

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Cheers butt.

Like social distancing since the March lockdown, I think most people will start of with good intentions but familiarity with the restrictions in pubs will inevitably see people become more lax in observing them.

The next few weeks will prove interesting.