FT: CARDIFF CITY 2 - 3 BLACKBURN ROVERS. Match thread

Hoilett needs a rest on Friday. He was out on his feet for most of the second half.

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Originally Posted by GL1Blue

Really!?!

In the first half we were contained by Blackburn in what was a very open game, something we usually try to stop.
In the second half they bossed the game and deserved all 3 points.

Plan C (if there was one) may have worked.

Still hopeful of the playoffs, and even more hopeful of a striker for next season.

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PLAN A, 3 out of 3 wins

Changing plan A, 1 draw, 1 defeat

Don’t change for changing sake

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Originally Posted by Baloo

I thought the changes were reactive tonight.

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Agreed. They dominated the second half, but we didn't change anything until after they went 3-2 up.

Simply outplayed.

We dont do playoffs anyway guys...let’s just relax and enjoy the rest of the summer:thumbup:

Blackburn by far the better team but so frustrating how the goals themselves were as a result of individual mistakes or bad luck. The first hitting the post then Smithies, the second being from a deflected cross and the third being from Bacuna's hospital pass

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Hoilett needs a rest on Friday. He was out on his feet for most of the second half.

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Nigh on all of them were off the pace, no time for a decent rest either. No good moping though, the lads have to put tonight behind them, put it down to a below par one off. It’s the same intensity for everyone in this mini season, not a lot of scope for changing things, trying things etc, it’s a case of belief and battling on.

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

Well that worked out well, didn’t it :facepalm:

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He played well.

Striker choice nothing to do with their goals, bit pathetic to even suggest the result was down to our team selection.

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Hoilett needs a rest on Friday. He was out on his feet for most of the second half.

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I agree, however, Murphy was terrible tonight and we had no one to hold the ball and play people into space. Blackburn did this all evening and were clearly the better team.
Harris has to start Tomlin against Fulham and our defence (normally secure) will need to up their game by 70% or we will get thrashed.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

He played well.

Striker choice nothing to do with their goals, bit pathetic to even suggest the result was down to our team selection.

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But plan B, never worked.

He changed it and it didn’t work out.

We lost and we changed, plan A, which has proved to be a winning formula.

You shouldn’t change, for changing sake.

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Originally Posted by DubaiDai

I agree, however, Murphy was terrible tonight and we had no one to hold the ball and play people into space. Blackburn did this all evening and were clearly the better team.
Harris has to start Tomlin against Fulham and our defence (normally secure) will need to up their game by 70% or we will get thrashed.

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Get off his back, made second goal and goalkeeper couldn’t hold his on target shots. We scored two great goals tonight but gave them three goals by individual mistakes. Also Mowberry changed his tactics in the second half and Harris was slow to respond with substitutes!

We were simply outplayed on all fronts

Thought Glatzel did OK - Murphy anonymous

What was with all the bloody passing about at the back for no reason = Barcelona we ain't

Back to Paterson please and back to front ASAP - congrats on your baby NML - back in the side now please there's a good lad

Sanderson and Bennett back to being defenders - Cafu and Roberto Carlos you are not

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

PLAN A, 3 out of 3 wins

Changing plan A, 1 draw, 1 defeat

Don’t change for changing sake

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exactly. it needed to be changed tonight.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

They were. I thought before they scored their 3rd they were the better team, even if they'd scored 2 goals we could have avoided before.

Harris tried to make the changes to get the points but I think Hoilett was on a little too long to be honest, and I still think we could see Tomlin earlier as well.

Right choice to throw Paterson out on the right as well try and win some long balls. We do seem to automatically go a little longer though when he's on, although chasing the game I can see the idea behind it.

Not to be.

At least the manager is pro active in his changes.

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Absolutely. Harris chased the game, but understandably so. I wonder how much the 5 subs rule has a bearing on this, but Harris' subs have been well thought out.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Thought I'd replied to the TIT

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There's a thing to call me! :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Baloo

I thought the changes were reactive tonight.

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You're right. Guess I was just trying to say he was being positive, pro active probably not the way to describe it.

Hoilett needed to come off sooner and Tomlin needs more time to influence a game.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Glatzel's pass accuracy for the game is 53% according to whoscored.com. That's the lowest in the entire team (bar Smithies).

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That's a surprise. He seemed to find his man watching in real time.

I'd still rather what he tries to do over the other option though, he actually attempts to link up play. An example was the time he found Sanderson who was offside..I thought he made the wrong choice there though (oh no did I just criticise him)

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

Maybe it's worth starting Paterson just so we can bring on someone better than him later in the game.

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Glatzel did well. Tries to bring others into the game.

I think in a game we weren't chasing we wouldn't have gambled putting Patterson out wide and lumping balls up and Tomlin and ward may have therefore been more effective.

Or start Ward and give Glatzel 20.

Either way there is no need to start Paterson up top.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

There's a thing to call me! :hehe:

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Apologies :hehe:

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Originally Posted by DubaiDai

I agree, however, Murphy was terrible tonight and we had no one to hold the ball and play people into space. Blackburn did this all evening and were clearly the better team.
Harris has to start Tomlin against Fulham and our defence (normally secure) will need to up their game by 70% or we will get thrashed.

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Diagonal balls into space left by our fullbacks. They adjusted tactically second half.

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

But plan B, never worked.

He changed it and it didn’t work out.

We lost and we changed, plan A, which has proved to be a winning formula.

You shouldn’t change, for changing sake.

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And plan A isn't some magic formula he's found that will never fail.

****ing hell :hehe:

You keep on about it like it's some magic fool proof plan we can just go out and set in place and walk off the pitch with 3 points.

Here's one for you.. that tactic involves Tomlin and a striker coming on at 0-0 and changing the game with a goal. We didn't score with that change last night? We won't always be able to keep a game to nil nil and bring on magic players to score goals.

Jesus wept.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

And plan A isn't some magic formula he's found that will never fail.

****ing hell :hehe:

You keep on about it like it's some magic fool proof plan we can just go out and set in place and walk off the pitch with 3 points.

Here's one for you.. that tactic involves Tomlin and a striker coming on at 0-0 and changing the game with a goal. We didn't score with that change last night? We won't always be able to keep a game to nil nil and bring on magic players to score goals.

Jesus wept.

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But it’s worked perfectly 3 times out of 3, so ALL I’m saying is “why change for changing sake”

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Glatzel did well. Tries to bring others into the game.

I think in a game we weren't chasing we wouldn't have gambled putting Patterson out wide and lumping balls up and Tomlin and ward may have therefore been more effective.

Or start Ward and give Glatzel 20.

Either way there is no need to start Paterson up top

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Paterson, puts himself about more, their two centre backs, wouldn’t have had the space to bring their midfielders into play, if Patts was chasing them down.
Yes, Robert got a goal, but chasing down and being an annoying little t wat (like me :hehe:), is not his game.

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

But it’s worked perfectly 3 times out of 3, so ALL I’m saying is “why change for changing sake”

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Like I said. It won't always work.

Jesus nelly someone give this man his sleeping tablets FFS.

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

Paterson, puts himself about more, their two centre backs, wouldn’t have had the space to bring their midfielders into play, if Patts was chasing them down.
Yes, Robert got a goal, but chasing down and being an annoying little t wat (like me :hehe:), is not his game.

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Neither is it what I want from a striker. It's a plus but there are a shit load of other things I'd look for first.

Glatzel and Ward are better than Paterson.
That's me done on the subject.

Have your little funny last word while laughing at yourself and let's leave it there. You weird little man :hehe:

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Like I said. It won't always work.

Jesus nelly someone give this man his sleeping tablets FFS.

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I’ve started on vitamin D and I gotta be fair, sleeping much better :thumbup: Now look out, as I’ve had porridge this morning as well :hehe: WHAT WAS THE QUESTION AGAIN :hehe:oh ah, I know it won’t always work, all I’m saying is, “until it fails, why change it”

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

I’ve started on vitamin D and I gotta be fair, sleeping much better :thumbup: Now look out, as I’ve had porridge this morning as well :hehe: WHAT WAS THE QUESTION AGAIN :hehe:oh ah, I know it won’t always work, all I’m saying is, “until it fails, why change it”

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I'm basically part time atm due to Covid-19 and waking up having breakfast etc is probably the best thing I can do to keep a routine and the sanity levels up.

No idea what you were rambling about sorry you weren't making much sense :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

I'm basically part time atm due to Covid-19 and waking up having breakfast etc is probably the best thing I can do to keep a routine and the sanity levels up.

No idea what you were rambling about sorry you weren't making much sense :biggrin:

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1) You asked someone to give me sleeping tablets, I informed you I’ve started taking vitamin D and it’s working a treat.

2) I informed you I’d had my breakfast (forgot why)

3) I forgot what the question was

4) I looked the question up

5) I answered the question, it’s not my fault you didn’t like the answer, it’s just that you won’t admit to yourself “ that plan A has worked 3 times” :hehe:

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

1) You asked someone to give me sleeping tablets, I informed you I’ve started taking vitamin D and it’s working a treat.

2) I informed you I’d had my breakfast (forgot why)

3) I forgot what the question was

4) I looked the question up

5) I answered the question, it’s not my fault you didn’t like the answer, it’s just that you won’t admit to yourself “ that plan A has worked 3 times” :hehe:

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I think my post history will agree that it was effective. Let's not rewrite history.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

I think my post history will agree that it was effective. Let's not rewrite history.

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Just come back from my daily walk, can you translate your post into Ingurlish please

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Originally Posted by Don Corleone

Been outplayed tonight, they pressed much better than us and we couldn’t cope

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Outcoached too. Mowbray outwitted Harris.

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

Just come back from my daily walk, can you translate your post into Ingurlish please

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At this point you're just being an idiot

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

At this point you're just being an idiot

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That’s not nice :angry:

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

That’s not nice :angry:

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The conversation was easy to follow.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

The conversation was easy to follow.

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In the writers head maybe, but not everyone is on the same wavelength :shrug:

I honestly haven’t got a clue your getting at, quoting your posting history

The problem is all the players , apart from Ralls and Smithies were poor last night. The back were awful, Sanderson had his worst game for us, Morrison was poor, and Nelson was absolutely terrible. Bennet not too bad. Ralls and Vaulks were OK, Bacuna ok until that terrible pass. Holiett and Murphy were poor, although Murphy did make the pass for Bennett to cross for the second goal. Glatzel tried and didn't;t have the run of the ball, but did score again.

Blackburn just worked us our and did to us what we used to do to teams, close them down and stop them playing. It worked a treat. Disappointing for us but they were just the better team.

As for Tony TIT's comments, Patterson should be nowhere near a starting place, not up front anyway. unless you want someone to barge in to defenders and give away free kick and fall over a lot. And basically do nothing else. We have to start a strike there and we only now have Glatzel or Ward. Patterson has played there for most of three seasons, when we had another five strikers sat around doing nothing. We need right back for next season though. or maybe ship him off to Rangers or Celtic.

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Originally Posted by cardiff55

The problem is all the players , apart from Ralls and Smithies were poor last night. The back were awful, Sanderson had his worst game for us, Morrison was poor, and Nelson was absolutely terrible. Bennet not too bad. Ralls and Vaulks were OK, Bacuna ok until that terrible pass. Holiett and Murphy were poor, although Murphy did make the pass for Bennett to cross for the second goal. Glatzel tried and didn't;t have the run of the ball, but did score again.

Blackburn just worked us our and did to us what we used to do to teams, close them down and stop them playing. It worked a treat. Disappointing for us but they were just the better team.

As for you don’t need the TONY, when you’re saying TIT’S comments, as the first T, is Tony :hehe:Patterson should be nowhere near a starting place, not up front anyway. unless you want someone to barge in to defenders and give away free kick and fall over a lot. And basically do nothing else. We have to start a strike there and we only now have Glatzel or Ward. Patterson has played there for most of three seasons, when we had another five strikers sat around doing nothing. We need right back for next season though. or maybe ship him off to Rangers or Celtic.

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Do you mean the comments “plan is working”

Or when I commented “I’M NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT !!!!

Read the whole thread, please

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

Outcoached too. Mowbray outwitted Harris.

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I think that's right. Though in fairness when one team is ahead at the break there is more of a tendency for one manager to keep things the same whilst the other tweaks things. What Harris wasn't really capable of doing was positively changing things the other way around when we went behind. Though that might be more to do with tired legs and thoughts.

Only us could beat Leeds and the wurzels away then get one point from 2 easier home games.....

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Originally Posted by goats

Only us could beat Leeds and the wurzels away then get one point from 2 easier home games.....

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Leeds was a complete fluke (2 shots and 2 goals) and The Wurzels we’re rubbish. This is just the norm.

There is nothing in the team’s performances to suggest otherwise.