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We can be just as crap with above fifty per cent possession as we often are with less than of the ball :hehe: - are you seriously advocating we look to have twenty to thirty per cent of possession as a matter of preference?Quote:
Originally Posted by mazadona10
Pardon? Drama queen? I can say for certain that if the jacks had started a season with lifeless 3-0 and 2-0 losses in a week that had also seen one of their players sacked, there would be speculation on here about there being problems in their dressing room.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
I don’t think he’s suggesting Bamba should be back, but Bamba a few years ago sped up our counter attacksQuote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
What I'm saying is for the last few years people have said how want to see possession football even if it impacts results. I think some people the dream is a lot better than the reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
There's more than one way to win a game of football.
Possession football is fine if you create chances but today we had possession and created virtually nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazadona10
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Give a little slack, Bob, he's been waiting 4 years to post that.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
So, you're blaming a style of football on our loss today? Nothing to do with how it was implemented? C'mon, your argument is way to simplistic and could be turned the other way.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazadona10
And elsewhere within that Club. There is something wrong down Sloper Road. Whether it’s to do with NML no one knows, but something has certainly derailed the playing side. Time will tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Isn’t it a little early to suggest we have been ‘derailed’? Of course the ML situation is going to leave the team flat but a trouncing by a lower league club in the cup and a very disappointing first game defeat at home is hardly unknown territory for us.
I was impressed by Maurice Swan’s ‘Brain Clarke’ the other day for our Real Madrid hero:hehe:[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Who? The fella with the perfect grammar?
Been trying to get my 'brian' (sic) our performance.
If we look at Harris'record with us, we have more wins away than at home. Think this may largely due due to the type of players we have, better at defending that attacking.
It is obvious to everyone we need more creativity in midfield if Tomlin cannot play every week and at least one winger who can cross a ball instead of cutting inside. Without crosses coming in the chant will soon be 'I saw Keiffer Moore score' as Ronnie suffered exactly the same fate.
Hopefully with 3 weeks of the window to go Harris can get that loan or free that will make all the difference. Essentially there is not a lot wrong with the squad that a bit of tinkering wont put right.
We needed Plan A. Paterson.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
This. We need an alternative to Tomlin who can beat a man and has an eye for a pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
If we are to persist with the wingers then they need to put balls in the box. If they can't and continually look to cut back and either lose the ball or play it backwards then there is little point them being there.
If we are then going to go a bit more direct through the middle then we need more creativity. Ralls, Bacuna or Vaulks aren't this player and Bamba or Pack even less so.
Teams know at the moment that if they nullify our wingers and Tomlin when he makes his cameo appearance then that's us pretty much out of ideas barring the odd set piece where the cavalry charge forward but they are getting less productive by the season.
Having possession, I think it was the first time today we have won that battle in a very long time, is of little use if we do next to nothing with it. It was pretty patterns in front of their midfield and defence where they are happy for us to have the ball.
im not sure you can class away wins the same with no fans.
personally never wanted Harris, dont like him and while we seemed to get on a crest of a wave afer lock down i dont see much in him.
infact his odd obsession with Pack in those games cost us.
I wonder if Murphy would work there or playing as an additional striker.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
I don't know if you can remember Murphy against Spurs away in the Premier League but his pace absolutely scared the life out of them. I think he could play up top no probs and a lot more effectively than being isolated on the wing because teams just double up or force the wingers inside because they know we have no creativity in the middle.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
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Originally Posted by blue lewj
Harris has made a point of describing Sheyi Ojo as a winger or a No 10. Every time he has spoken about him I have thought he saw him as an alternative to Tomlin as much as a winger. The timing of NML's sacking has made everyone see Ojo as a straight replacement. He may be - but it wouldn't surprise me to see him played behind Moore. Whether he would be any good there is another question!Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Was it Middlesbrough away towards the end of last season when he played a more central role, bagged two goals and was a threat all game?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
Huddersfield maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
I wasn't at the game so not sure if he was out on the wing and just played off the cuff and came more central but he looked fairly cool with his finishes.
Out on the wing he just gets crowded out. A lot is his own fault being a bit ponderous and trying to be too tricky and ultimately losing the ball. If he keeps it simple he's got pace to burn off most players by keeping it simple.
Drama queen mark II :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
I love this messageboard sometimes. Opening day defeat? All the players obviously hate each otherQuote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Sadly we can't afford performances as bad as that if we seriously want promotion. It's okay if you're aiming at mid table but after the recent past we should be aiming much much higher. A lot of money's been spent and he's got - or had - a squad which should be in at least the top four.
See, it's not just a matter of one game gong wrong ,which can and does happen, it was systematic and whatever they were trying to do doesn't work. Possession won't win games as we should know and you need a sold defence because that's the basic thing.
I don't mean to kick them when they're down but I'm just calling as I see it. As a matter of fact I saw Paul Merson on tv, who'd watched it and he said pretty much the same.
I'm heartbroken about it.
He did score at Huddersfield and came on and scored two at Middlesbrough. He may be an option to play closer to Moore rather than out wide where he doesn’t pose much of a threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
Kadeem has the last laugh, then...
I know it’s absolutely bonkers :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Why so called fans would spread silly gossip with no substance is beyond me.