Was Bagan playing left back or in the centre?
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Was Bagan playing left back or in the centre?
That’s what my post implied. A multi million pound striker at this level shouldn’t have to totally rely on systems or being put through one on one, he should be capable of making things happen for himself, turning half chances into goals, bullying defenders into mistakes. The team goals where he’s put in one on one are all well and good but battling your bollocks off to create things yourself is a more likely way for a striker in our system to succeed. Unfortunately Glatzel does not battle, bully, harass, intimidate, fight at all, if it was Mark Harris, a more or less rookie, you’d tend to forgive and understand but a striker that cost what he did and obviously with a wage in ratio to his fee it pisses me off. Not his fault we got shafted into signing him but we had our pants pulled down big time, tucked up completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
I thought he looked suspiciously like Chris Hughton:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by PhyllisStant
I'm with you on that Mike, always something I really look forward to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
Very soon but who do you replace him with?Quote:
Originally Posted by DubaiDai
It's alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
The three wise men are on the case as we speak via WhatsApp.
I know what you mean but I’m not too bothered this season. It was important for Cardiff to win today as your season now looks like petering out. We had that sort of season last year where it’s all a bit dull. You were due a quiet season and this time around when we can’t attend matches is probably the best time to have one of those quiet seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
That is it unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Screams of a panic buy having chased our tails and messing up other targets during that window.
A player is also worth what we are willing to pay for him. Neil and the three amigos thought he was worth it so that is what was paid.
He would have gone last weekend if we were planning to change the manager in January.Quote:
Originally Posted by DubaiDai
Or is it another ploy from the club to spend a little less.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
Sack Harris towards the end of the window then play the 'we would have loved to give him cash but he simply has run out of time' card.
Don't think we needed a cup run this year but still another frustrating afternoon. Glad Bagan, Phillips, Harris got more minutes; Bennett didn't look totally out of place, albeit it wasn't the hardest afternoon after conceding; and some of our youth team got the experience of suiting up for a senior game.
Things should pick up after the Norwich game but annoyingly not before then.
In these shite times we’re looking for anything to spice up our life, it annoys me more than bothers me after watching that though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
At the moment we don't have a right back, we don't have a second centre back, we don't have a spare midfield player and we don't have a spare striker. But we have 5 wide men (Wlson, Murphy, Holiett, Ojo and Whyte) and three left backs!!!
My thoughts are that we need a new manager soon, to enable him to take a good look at the playing staff, the way we play etc., before trying to change some of the staff/style in the summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
This season is already over so hanging onto Harris to the end makes little sense.
Left back and I thought he did well. True, he wasn’t tested much defensively, but he played a few passes which actually found team mates in space high up the pitch - it wasn’t his fault that nothing came of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by cardiff55
Those long passes were also made under pressure with a Forest player bearing down on him, all in all acquitted himself well.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Don’t understand all of the focus on the Glatzel, where is the scathing criticism of Wilson (is he too precious to be criticised?), Murphy, Ralls, Harris, Ojo, Hoilett etc. They left Glatzel out to dry.
When Murphy got to the line, only Glatzel was in the box, no one made the effort to get in there.
No one comes out of this with credit. Lethargy and one dimensional. Time for a change.
Glatzel absolutely no service again, Wilson could have arguably set him up for two goals, one of which was a tap in. Strikers are really on a hiding to nothing with our playing style.
Yes Bagan did well enough, he doesn’t look out of place, was solid enough defensively and did put a couple of decent balls down the channel and also provided the cross for the only half chance we had, the one Hoilett put over the bar.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Bennett was fine at CB too, though not really tested. There was just so little invention pace and urgency at the important end of the pitch
The focus is on Glatzel, not his fault I hasten to add, because of what he cost. To say Murphy doesn’t get criticised suggests that you don’t read this board much, he’s been regularly slaughtered, Ojo has his own personal executioner, Ralls gets his fair share of pelters as well. Wilson has been getting in more and more recently as well. Hoilett is perhaps giving a little breathing space due to the fact he cost bugger all and his contribution over the seasons far outweighs any negatives, it was he with a snapshot that nearly brought us level today after coming on. Mark Harris surely doesn’t deserve criticism after being chucked in the deep end in a struggling side. Glatzel isn’t up to it at this level, perhaps it’s not that he doesn’t get stuck in, doesn’t show enthusiasm, doesn’t create anything individually etc it’s the fact he can’t do these things because he isn’t good enough. We’ve seen enough of him, he’s not up to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Des Parrot
An idea and a crazy one but playing Wilson in the number 10 role seems logical to me.
Lots of stuff online from our games in the last promotion year [2017/18]. Yes, Warnock was manager, but it certainly wasn't 'Warnockball'. We were sharp, beating players in high positions, and putting defences under pressure. Compared to that side we look 50% slower, no intensity, no energy. Harris is a victim of inheriting a ponderous squad and some strange recruitment, but without a big target man we ain't going to trouble defences. Time for a clear out - players, manager, coaches, scouts [?], the lot. We may be relegated, but I think we're heading that way anyway in the next season or two..Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
There has to be a scapegoat and unfortunately Glatzel is that one. It seems that we don’t play to any of his strengths, surely he has some, but being in a side that lacks any quality in the attacking half of the pitch any striker would look poor. I don’t know what Warnock was looking for in a striker like him when he signed him. The mind boggles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Des Parrot
We've played him there several times this season and he hasn't done much.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
If memory is correct last time was Birmingham and he scored one and got two assists.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
He scored after moving back out to the wing when we brought on Mark Harris for Gavin Whyte.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
I agree, he's here until the end of the season at least. He'll be gone once the seasons I sincerely hope, and we are safe from relegation. The Three Stooges will then cast their net near and close for another manager. Let's just hope it's not Pulis or even Joey BartonQuote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
He didn't play as a #10 today. We played 4141 for the first 65 mins: Ralls at clm and Pack between the midfield and defence. From then to the end of the game Wilson played at #10.
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I was referring specifically to the criticism Glatzel was getting after this match. In my opinion he was hung out to dry as he had no support or feed from those around him, Ralls, Murphy, Wilson all anonymous. There was one instance when Murphy broke away, got to the bye line, crossed the ball , behind Glatzel, and there wasn’t another City player in or approaching the box, yet Forest managed to get 6 or 7 back, that sums this team up for me. The lack of incisiveness is shocking. There was also a pass from Pack in between the Forest lines, which was a great opportunity to attack, instead of carrying it forward it went sideways then back, wasting a great opportunity. Oh for a Jason Koumas!Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Glatzet would be a lot better with the ball played in front of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Des Parrot
Strikers who cost as much as him should have a more all round game and be adaptable to balls played in front of them, behind them, across the box on the deck, across the box in the air, chances that they make themselves, chances that occur through defenders’ errors etc. He shows none of these attributes on a regular basis, unfortunately he’s a dud, no power, no strength, little awareness, lacking in a vital part of a striker’s make up which is anticipation. Fair play to his agent for getting his former club such a fee and his client a wage to match. I’ve tried to like him and he’s been given many opportunities to show his worth, so much more than the likes of Cornelius, Bogle and Guerra. We knock our midfield but it must be disheartening for them having such a ‘no show’ up front, he’s a centre back’s dream opponent, for a big bloke his aggression is nil.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
What, we have a midfield.Must be news to the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
One of the reasons we need strikers who are capable of creating the odd chance themselves, strikers who work their bollocks off, strikers who bully defenders, strikers who battle, Glatzel doesn’t , he can’t hold the ball up, he can’t defend from the front, he’s powder puff. Do you think that he’s good enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
Swansea away next round then Man City (probably) at home if we managed to dispose of them.
Hands up who still fancied a cup run :biggrin:
Nah, you're alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder