Next Manager Odds Watch

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

And so it begins

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Rattled

The club needs to pick somebody who can do no wrong. Unfortunately for some Drakeford, Corbyn and Starmer are not football managers.

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Originally Posted by Vindec

The club needs to pick somebody who can do no wrong. Unfortunately for some Drakeford, Corbyn and Starmer are not football managers.

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Imagine being this much of a boot licker :hehe:

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Originally Posted by surge

Reading through some of the opinions on here and on social media, are you sure that's a bad thing?

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So, did you think Harris should have stayed?

If not, do you think Mick McCarthy is a good replacement?

Fans are fans, there will always be a range of opinions. It is always good to keep onside the people that put money into the club though.

Woke up with a sense of excitement at what the future might hold, but then I log onto here and see the words “mick” & “pulis” everywhere and it dawns on me… :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by Vindec

The club needs to pick somebody who can do no wrong. Unfortunately for some Drakeford, Corbyn and Starmer are not football managers.

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Gavin Williamson with the bufoon as DOF.

I can see us now non league. But but but we could have had Corbyn and what about Diane Abbott.😂😂😂

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Originally Posted by 198bore

Woke up with a sense of excitement at what the future might hold, but then I log onto here and see the words “mick” & “pulis” everywhere and it dawns on me… :facepalm:

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😂😂😂😂

Im suprised Dave Bassett hasnt been mentioned as DOF from those wanting Pulis.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

So, did you think Harris should have stayed?

If not, do you think Mick McCarthy is a good replacement?

Fans are fans, there will always be a range of opinions. It is always good to keep onside the people that put money into the club though.

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I want the manager who can successfully deliver on the aims to i) improve playing style, ii) bring through youth, iii) improve in transfer market, iv) establish longer term vision and v) keep us competitive with longer term plan of promotion that sticks.

If Mick McCarthy has the plan to meet those aims then I'm happy to give him a chance.

I don't think we have the resources to rip apart everything Warnock did* so will be a slow build with sights set on 2022-2023 onwards rather than rushing to play passing football now.

*Neither do I think it's necessary. Warnock got us playing as a team, brought in leaders to get us through tough times and got fans on side. These are foundations to work from.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

Rattled

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Not in the slightest, I find it all rather amusing. :hehe:

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Originally Posted by surge

I want the manager who can successfully deliver on the aims to i) improve playing style, ii) bring through youth, iii) improve in transfer market, iv) establish longer term vision and v) keep us competitive with longer term plan of promotion that sticks.

If Mick McCarthy has the plan to meet those aims then I'm happy to give him a chance.

I don't think we have the resources to rip apart everything Warnock did* so will be a slow build with sights set on 2022-2023 onwards rather than rushing to play passing football now.

*Neither do I think it's necessary. Warnock got us playing as a team, brought in leaders to get us through tough times and got fans on side. These are foundations to work from.

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I totally understand ripping up and starting again and it needs to be gradual but we also need to see evidence of it too. In many aspects things were getting worse despite us adding better quality to the first team. The defence is as bad as it had been for quite some time even when fully fit.

I agree that McCarthy could well be what was needed until the end of the season but not long term for me.

Just an opinion though.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Not in the slightest, I find it all rather amusing. :hehe:

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Definitely rattled.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

Definitely rattled.

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Definitely not. You got what you wanted. Mick McCarthy ffs. :hehe:

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Definitely not. You got what you wanted. Mick McCarthy ffs. :hehe:

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Nobody wanted Mick. Although an improvement on Harris and achieved more in the game at a higher level.

Don't be silly because Harris has gone.

You told anybody they're rattled today yet. :hehe:

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

Nobody wanted Mick. Although an improvement on Harris and achieved more in the game at a higher level.

Don't be silly because Harris has gone.

You told anybody they're rattled today yet. :hehe:

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You reap what you sow. I look forward to you crying over Mick and his style of play next Tuesday.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

You reap what you sow. I look forward to you crying over Mick and his style of play next Tuesday.

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:hehe: Jesus, do you think that what people say on here holds any authority on what the club does in terms of recruitment? If they did listen to fans then they wouldn't be bringing in Uncle Mick, would they?

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

You reap what you sow. I look forward to you crying over Mick and his style of play next Tuesday.

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:hehe:

I didn't have any input in the decision mind.

Does that mean I'm rattled? I don't even know any more.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

:hehe: Jesus, do you think that what people say on here holds any authority on what the club does in terms of recruitment? If they did listen to fans then they wouldn't be bringing in Uncle Mick, would they?

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Eh? Where did I say they that?!?

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

:hehe: Jesus, do you think that what people say on here holds any authority on what the club does in terms of recruitment? If they did listen to fans then they wouldn't be bringing in Uncle Mick, would they?

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JR rates his opinion quite highly but when all is said and done the owner and board do what they like.

As you have pointed out, as with the Harris appointment, not many on here would have predicted it or advised them to employ him.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Eh? Where did I say they that?!?

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So how do we reap what we sow if we didn't sow it you melon?

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Eh? Where did I say they that?!?

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'You reap what you sow' Aimed at Lewj, which basically means that Lewj has to face up to the consequences of his actions. Which is posting stuff on a messageboard :hehe:

I thought if Harris went our replacement would be underwhelming. This is taking the p!ss though.

Only positive is he will keep us up.

Probably then get a 5 year deal.

The Harris moaners I hope are happy.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

I thought if Harris went our replacement would be underwhelming. This is taking the p!ss though.

Only positive is he will keep us up.

Probably then get a 5 year deal.

The Harris moaners I hope are happy.

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Again, as Tuerto said, the criticism of Harris on here had little influence on Harris going.

If the people who make decisions at this club read this messageboard they wouldn't be getting Mick McCarthy in.

One man was responsible for Neil Harris losing his job. That was Neil Harris.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

'You reap what you sow' Aimed at Lewj, which basically means that Lewj has to face up to the consequences of his actions. Which is posting stuff on a messageboard :hehe:

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Absolutely he reaps what he sows. He started the Harris Out campaign from the day Harris was employed. If you dont think the club are listening to the fans in respect of Harris getting the bullet, at a time when fans can only express their views on social media and forums because we are not allowed in the ground, then you are being very naive.

Will it be the only reason? Of course not but it would have played its part.

Warnock said himself when he left that he was reading the forums and the fans had started to turn against him so it was time to leave. its not beyond the realms of possibility the club would gage feeling online at a time when fans are not allowed at the ground.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

https://m.skybet.com/football/manage...event/27019717

Probably not suprising. Cook fav followed by Pulis.

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They've stopped taking bets.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

Again, as Tuerto said, the criticism of Harris on here had little influence on Harris going.

If the people who make decisions at this club read this messageboard they wouldn't be getting Mick McCarthy in.

One man was responsible for Neil Harris losing his job. That was Neil Harris.

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What we say doesn't matter a jot. We are a tiny section of our support. If what we say held some water, then MM wouldn't be the man signing the contract.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

I thought if Harris went our replacement would be underwhelming. This is taking the p!ss though.

Only positive is he will keep us up.

Probably then get a 5 year deal.

The Harris moaners I hope are happy.

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They will never be happy. It will be Mick Out from Tuesday and in a year or two they will get their wish and then they can start on the next man.

I dont know how they get out of bed in the morning.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Absolutely he reaps what he sows. He started the Harris Out campaign from the day Harris was employed. If you dont think the club are listening to the fans in respect of Harris getting the bullet, at a time when fans can only express their views on social media and forums because we are not allowed in the ground, then you are being very naive.

Will it be the only reason? Of course not but it would have played its part.

Warnock said himself when he left that he was reading the forums and the fans had started to turn against him so it was time to leave. its not beyond the realms of possibility the club would gage feeling online at a time when fans are not allowed at the ground.

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I think that you're taking what a handful of us say a little to seriously. If the two ronnies read this board and listened to fans, then it wouldn't be MM, would it?

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I think that you're taking what a handful of us say a little to seriously. If the two ronnies read this board and listened to fans, then it wouldn't be MM, would it?

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To add, performances have been shocking lately, players going backwards, that's more concerning than poor results in my opinion. There's a problem, that's obvious, whether the correct 'problem' has been removed is another question entirely, i have my doubts.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Absolutely he reaps what he sows. He started the Harris Out campaign from the day Harris was employed. If you dont think the club are listening to the fans in respect of Harris getting the bullet, at a time when fans can only express their views on social media and forums because we are not allowed in the ground, then you are being very naive.

Will it be the only reason? Of course not but it would have played its part.

Warnock said himself when he left that he was reading the forums and the fans had started to turn against him so it was time to leave. its not beyond the realms of possibility the club would gage feeling online at a time when fans are not allowed at the ground.

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JR, I know you think differently but what you post here has no influence on who the club appoint or sack.

Neither does the campaign that I started that you made up in your own head.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

JR, I know you think differently but what you post here has no influence on who the club appoint or sack.

Neither does the campaign that I started that you made up in your own head.

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I didnt make anything up. Your posts are there for all to see in your posting history.

I hope you are happy with yourself that you got a family man sacked from his job.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I think that you're taking what a handful of us say a little to seriously. If the two ronnies read this board and listened to fans, then it wouldn't be MM, would it?

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Too many different opinions on who the next manager should be for them to take fans advice on that.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

I didnt make anything up. Your posts are there for all to see in your posting history.

I hope you are happy with yourself that you got a family man sacked from his job.

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A campaign? Come on.

I got a family man sacked from his job now.

Can somebody have a quick check? A village has lost its idiot.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

I didnt make anything up. Your posts are there for all to see in your posting history.

I hope you are happy with yourself that you got a family man sacked from his job.

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Please be a wind up...

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

A campaign? Come on.

I got a family man sacked from his job now.

Can somebody have a quick check? A village has lost its idiot.

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I hope you're happy, Lewj :hehe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXSeuPf4--U

It is fanciful to suggest that negative press does not have a bearing on success or failure.

As a manager, a couple of things you should not do. Have a go at the players in public nor the fans in public.

Not entirely in the same position as Harris but even Klopp did not blame his players for their loss to Burnley last night. He blamed himself.
We all know there is only so much a manager can do and that it is the fault of himself and the players as a collective that they are having a poor run.

He blamed himself because as soon as a manager loses the support of the players or fans, his days are numbered.
He realises that harmony amongst all is the way forward.

You would have to be blind deaf and stupid not to know the fans' opinions and to see the verbal kicking Harris has taken on SM virtually since he's been here will not of course be the sole reason but will have definitely have played a part in his demise.

There are far too many sensationalist headline threads with a negative spin on here IMHO, as there are petty squabbles.
Of course these are stressful times and people are letting off steam.

However, Mick McCarthy is our new manager whether we like it or not.
Let's all just try and give the bloke chance eh?

And breathe... :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I hope you're happy, Lewj :hehe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXSeuPf4--U

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:hehe::hehe:

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Originally Posted by MacAdder

It is fanciful to suggest that negative press does not have a bearing on success or failure.

As a manager, a couple of things you should not do. Have a go at the players in public nor the fans in public.

Not entirely in the same position as Harris but even Klopp did not blame his players for their loss to Burnley last night. He blamed himself.
We all know there is only so much a manager can do and that it is the fault of himself and the players as a collective that they are having a poor run.

He blamed himself because as soon as a manager loses the support of the players or fans, his days are numbered.
He realises that harmony amongst all is the way forward.

You would have to be blind deaf and stupid not to know the fans' opinions and to see the verbal kicking Harris has taken on SM virtually since he's been here will not of course be the sole reason but will have definitely have played a part in his demise.

There are far too many sensationalist headline threads with a negative spin on here IMHO, as there are petty squabbles.
Of course these are stressful times and people are letting off steam.

However, Mick McCarthy is our new manager whether we like it or not.
Let's all just try and give the bloke chance eh?

And breathe... :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Absolutely he reaps what he sows. He started the Harris Out campaign from the day Harris was employed. If you dont think the club are listening to the fans in respect of Harris getting the bullet, at a time when fans can only express their views on social media and forums because we are not allowed in the ground, then you are being very naive.

Will it be the only reason? Of course not but it would have played its part.

Warnock said himself when he left that he was reading the forums and the fans had started to turn against him so it was time to leave. its not beyond the realms of possibility the club would gage feeling online at a time when fans are not allowed at the ground.

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Which post do you think caused Harris to lose his job?

McCarthy out .

I'd have thought if the club listed to the fans they would never have appointed him.

Only Harris has himself to blame for the sack, I don't think many clubs would have allowed him to continue after such poor results.