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dml1954
				
			 
			Football lasts 90 minutes, split into two 45 minute halves. Ignoring one halves display and coming to the conclusion that we will be fighting the drop based on the other halves display is a bit daft don't you think ? You could just as easily take the second half and say that based on that we would be a play off team but that would be just as silly, wouldn’t it. I never cease to be amazed about the number of people that come on this board after a win and slag the team and manager off. Just enjoy the win for gods sake. Any win away in this league is a bonus.
			
		
	 
 Well said and only Championship away win of the weekend.
	 
	
	
	
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Seabird
				
			 
			Not a great display of football but it is encouraging that the younger players are being given a chance.
			
		
	 
 What I saw of the game (2nd half only), I was impressed by our ability to keep hold of the ball in the final third, allowing us to constantly keep pressure on the Forest defence, culminating in the winning goal, which was of the highest quality.
Looking forward, the younger players are only going improve and gain in confidence as the season progresses.
	 
	
	
	
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The Lone Gunman
				
			 
			In fairness to him, it seems dml1954 hates Bacuna. He's been consistent in stating his dislike of Bacuna and I've no doubt he'd have Vaulks in the team ahead of him.
Vaulks is terrible, though.
			
		
	 
 I don't think Vaulks is terrible and I enjoyed seeing him in the starting 11 today. He's scored 9 goals in 71 v Bacuna's 4 in 99. People moan about his tackling but Ralls is just as dangerous (if not more so but I can't be bothered to look up the stats) IMO and that Arter bloke was adored by the fans who love players who run around a lot but don't do very much else other than get booked in the first 20 mins or sent off in the first 45. I don't think we'll keep him on after the summer and anyway, I think Bacuna's contract lasts 6 months longer than Vaulks.
Still only game 6 so let's not put these young lads under any more pressure by talking about possible league position until December.
Collins is a worry for me. He is painfully slow in thought and deed. 
Great win though after 1-0 down today and Mick made the right call and early too. See, he does read this board!
	 
	
	
	
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Citizen's Nephew
				
			 
			I don't think Vaulks is terrible and I enjoyed seeing him in the starting 11 today. He's scored 9 goals in 71 v Bacuna's 4 in 99. People moan about his tackling but Ralls is just as dangerous (if not more so but I can't be bothered to look up the stats) IMO and that Arter bloke was adored by the fans who love players who run around a lot but don't do very much else other than get booked in the first 20 mins or sent off in the first 45. I don't think we'll keep him on after the summer and anyway, I think Bacuna's contract lasts 6 months longer than Vaulks.
Still only game 6 so let's not put these young lads under any more pressure by talking about possible league position until December.
Collins is a worry for me. He is painfully slow in thought and deed. 
Great win though after 1-0 down today and Mick made the right call and early too. See, he does read this board!
			
		
	 
 Totally agree ,Vaulks cross was excellent.
	 
	
	
	
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			Yes and I don’t understand why. Phillips not done a huge amount wrong over last few weeks but I think Smithies is one of the best in the division
			
		
	 
 Yes I agree, apologies I meant Phillips could have done better.
	 
	
	
	
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The Lone Gunman
				
			 
			None of the sides you've mentioned play in the same manner that City do.
			
		
	 
 Yes they do.
	 
	
	
	
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		https://eflanalysis.com/analysis/efl...s-cardiff-city
thanks to whoever it was who linked to this site after the Bristol game, here's their analysis of the forest match.
there's a lot of detail in there.
	 
	
	
	
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 It says we played a back 4 with Bagan in midfield? It was on in the pub bit I didn't take enough notice to see our formation?
	 
	
	
	
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			It says we played a back 4 with Bagan in midfield? It was on in the pub bit I didn't take enough notice to see our formation?
			
		
	 
 We played the usual 3 centre halves and wing backs.
	 
	
	
	
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			We played the usual 3 centre halves and wing backs.
			
		
	 
 I assumed as much looking at the personnel.
Weird that an analysis of us gets that wrong.
	 
	
	
	
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dembethewarrior
				
			 
			I assumed as much looking at the personnel.
Weird that an analysis of us gets that wrong.
			
		
	 
 that's how the sky sports app had us lined up as well I think, maybe that's how we told them we were playing.
	 
	
	
	
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Rjk
				
			 
			that's how the sky sports app had us lined up as well I think, maybe that's how we told them we were playing.
			
		
	 
 And on Flash scores as well but they often have it random.
	 
	
	
	
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		Bagan did get forward an awful lot on Sunday and watching the game it did strike me that Nelson was coming out to the left hand side a lot, so there may be some truth in it -  maybe it was a one off given that Giles and Bacuna were out?
	 
	
	
	
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			Bagan did get forward an awful lot on Sunday and watching the game it did strike me that Nelson was coming out to the left hand side a lot, so there may be some truth in it -  maybe it was a one off given that Giles and Bacuna were out?
			
		
	 
 I noticed that. I'm looking forward to seeing how Bagan develops. He does like getting forward. 
I think on Sunday it was more to do with the space he had to run into that prompted him to play further up the pitch, forcing Nelson a bit wider in defence, rather than a tactical decision, but I guess we will never know.
I must say that I have been disappointed with Ng since the start of the season. While his crossing has been ok, he does look cumbersome in defence. A lot of mistakes and quite slow.
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AfricanBluebird
				
			 
			I noticed that. I'm looking forward to seeing how Bagan develops. He does like getting forward. 
I think on Sunday it was more to do with the space he had to run into that prompted him to play further up the pitch, forcing Nelson a bit wider in defence, rather than a tactical decision, but I guess we will never know.
I must say that I have been disappointed with Ng since the start of the season. While his crossing has been ok, he does look cumbersome in defence. A lot of mistakes and quite slow.
I would certainly be starting Sang as right wing back over Ng
			
		
	 
 Sang was a bit Curate's Eggish against the wurzels mixing some good things on the ball that I don't think you'd see from Ng with fairly basic errors like missing the cross which led to the winning goal. Ng is, perhaps, not quite the player we thought he was after his first few matches for us,, but, because the team is so much younger these days, it's easy to forget that he is still pretty young himself and he's inexperienced in this league. I think right wing back is a position where we can rotate a bit - although he's made mistakes, I'd still have Ng down as the better defender of the two, but Sang has the edge going forward, I wonder if we could be seeing quite a bit of Sang playing in home matches and Ng being used more away from home?