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Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight
I certainly don't agree with what Morison has said publicly about Watters and i think that he should have waited until half time to make the change unless we were under real pressure because of what Watters wasn't doing (didn't see the game) But, if Watters was given a remit by Morison and he didn't carry that out, then i have no problem with the substitution. If the coaching staff have been working with Watters in order to make him stronger on the ball, in order to pin defenders and allow players to make runs and get around him, then he goes out there and does none of that then in my opinion, Morison has every right to be pissed off. Never mind this stuff about it not being part of his game etc, it has to be if he plays for us, rightly or wrongly.
As for Morisons comments, I really don't know what he is thinking when he decides to be that openly honest about a player who quite obviously isn't getting it or is incapable of doing it. You would have thought that Morison had identified Watters strengths and weaknesses but might have thought that he had seen enough in training to think that watters could hold the ball up and buy some time. Morrison said after a recent goal by Watters that he didn't do much else or words to that affect, so maybe his comments weren't that much of a surprise. The only positive for watters is that morison didn't say that he is incapable of playing in the fashion that he wants him to.
I really don't know what to think of it all. Morison has a contract until May. He isn't going the safe route, he is making noise. Does he have that much confidence and self belief in his methods that he thinks it ok to call out a player in the way that he did? I think that he does. Although is there an element of 'Delusions Of Grandeur' within Morisons character? For someone so new in the managerial game it does make you wonder what he is thinking. I don't think that i have ever heard a manager talk like that about his players in public.
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Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I certainly don't agree with what Morison has said publicly about Watters and i think that he should have waited until half time to make the change unless we were under real pressure because of what Watters wasn't doing (didn't see the game) But, if Watters was given a remit by Morison and he didn't carry that out, then i have no problem with the substitution. If the coaching staff have been working with Watters in order to make him stronger on the ball, in order to pin defenders and allow players to make runs and get around him, then he goes out there and does none of that then in my opinion, Morison has every right to be pissed off. Never mind this stuff about it not being part of his game etc, it has to be if he plays for us, rightly or wrongly.
As for Morisons comments, I really don't know what he is thinking when he decides to be that openly honest about a player who quite obviously isn't getting it or is incapable of doing it. You would have thought that Morison had identified Watters strengths and weaknesses but might have thought that he had seen enough in training to think that watters could hold the ball up and buy some time. Morrison said after a recent goal by Watters that he didn't do much else or words to that affect, so maybe his comments weren't that much of a surprise. The only positive for watters is that morison didn't say that he is incapable of playing in the fashion that he wants him to.
I really don't know what to think of it all. Morison has a contract until May. He isn't going the safe route, he is making noise. Does he have that much confidence and self belief in his methods that he thinks it ok to call out a player in the way that he did? I think that he does. Although is there an element of 'Delusions Of Grandeur' within Morisons character? For someone so new in the managerial game it does make you wonder what he is thinking. I don't think that i have ever heard a manager talk like that about his players in public.
He's not going to win a popularity contest that's for sure but since the end of the transfer window he's walked the walk so no complaints here, regardless of his public utterances.
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Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I certainly don't agree with what Morison has said publicly about Watters and i think that he should have waited until half time to make the change unless we were under real pressure because of what Watters wasn't doing (didn't see the game) But, if Watters was given a remit by Morison and he didn't carry that out, then i have no problem with the substitution. If the coaching staff have been working with Watters in order to make him stronger on the ball, in order to pin defenders and allow players to make runs and get around him, then he goes out there and does none of that then in my opinion, Morison has every right to be pissed off. Never mind this stuff about it not being part of his game etc, it has to be if he plays for us, rightly or wrongly.
As for Morisons comments, I really don't know what he is thinking when he decides to be that openly honest about a player who quite obviously isn't getting it or is incapable of doing it. You would have thought that Morison had identified Watters strengths and weaknesses but might have thought that he had seen enough in training to think that watters could hold the ball up and buy some time. Morrison said after a recent goal by Watters that he didn't do much else or words to that affect, so maybe his comments weren't that much of a surprise. The only positive for watters is that morison didn't say that he is incapable of playing in the fashion that he wants him to.
I really don't know what to think of it all. Morison has a contract until May. He isn't going the safe route, he is making noise. Does he have that much confidence and self belief in his methods that he thinks it ok to call out a player in the way that he did? I think that he does. Although is there an element of 'Delusions Of Grandeur' within Morisons character? For someone so new in the managerial game it does make you wonder what he is thinking. I don't think that i have ever heard a manager talk like that about his players in public.
it's clear that he purposely did it just to make a point.
Otherwise he would have hooked him off at half time and it would have been chalked off as, wrong formation not working. Instead it's pinned the blame solely on the players effort. It takes away some of the critisism of SM and is causing waves.
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dml1954
I would suggest that all you people criticising Morison should read this report in WOL after the game and actually read what he says, rather than making up your own commentary and jumping on the bandwagon.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...rdiff-23110932
Nothing to see there as far as I am concerned. Critical but balanced and encouraging of the player.
Also gives good reasons why he choose the starting line up,
He's doing very well for us and long may it continue.
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
it's clear that he purposely did it just to make a point.
Otherwise he would have hooked him off at half time and it would have been chalked off as, wrong formation not working. Instead it's pinned the blame solely on the players effort. It takes away some of the critisism of SM and is causing waves.
I don't believe that he thinks that he is to blame in any of this. I think that he told Watters to hold the ball up, be a presence etc, and he didn't do it, it's as simple as that in my opinion. I can see his point to a certain degree. Watters is a Striker playing in the championship, for Cardiff City. If he had pulled Davies after 37 minutes for not holding the ball up etc, then i think that i'd still be laughing now. I don't think that Morison was asking for too much, the way he verbalised it was shocking.
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Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I certainly don't agree with what Morison has said publicly about Watters and i think that he should have waited until half time to make the change unless we were under real pressure because of what Watters wasn't doing (didn't see the game) But, if Watters was given a remit by Morison and he didn't carry that out, then i have no problem with the substitution. If the coaching staff have been working with Watters in order to make him stronger on the ball, in order to pin defenders and allow players to make runs and get around him, then he goes out there and does none of that then in my opinion, Morison has every right to be pissed off. Never mind this stuff about it not being part of his game etc, it has to be if he plays for us, rightly or wrongly.
As for Morisons comments, I really don't know what he is thinking when he decides to be that openly honest about a player who quite obviously isn't getting it or is incapable of doing it. You would have thought that Morison had identified Watters strengths and weaknesses but might have thought that he had seen enough in training to think that watters could hold the ball up and buy some time. Morrison said after a recent goal by Watters that he didn't do much else or words to that affect, so maybe his comments weren't that much of a surprise. The only positive for watters is that morison didn't say that he is incapable of playing in the fashion that he wants him to.
I really don't know what to think of it all. Morison has a contract until May. He isn't going the safe route, he is making noise. Does he have that much confidence and self belief in his methods that he thinks it ok to call out a player in the way that he did? I think that he does. Although is there an element of 'Delusions Of Grandeur' within Morisons character? For someone so new in the managerial game it does make you wonder what he is thinking. I don't think that i have ever heard a manager talk like that about his players in public.
Whenever I'm watching City at home, or on a stream when they're away, I invariably don't recognize 3 or 4 of the team - not counting those who joined in this 'window'. I think any manger who gives game time to so many untried and young players whilst pulling the side well away from the threat of relegation, is doing fine by me. I don't think Morison's comments warrant some of the over-reaction on here. That's his style, the players know it, and seem to be playing for him.
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Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I certainly don't agree with what Morison has said publicly about Watters and i think that he should have waited until half time to make the change unless we were under real pressure because of what Watters wasn't doing (didn't see the game) But, if Watters was given a remit by Morison and he didn't carry that out, then i have no problem with the substitution. If the coaching staff have been working with Watters in order to make him stronger on the ball, in order to pin defenders and allow players to make runs and get around him, then he goes out there and does none of that then in my opinion, Morison has every right to be pissed off. Never mind this stuff about it not being part of his game etc, it has to be if he plays for us, rightly or wrongly.
As for Morisons comments, I really don't know what he is thinking when he decides to be that openly honest about a player who quite obviously isn't getting it or is incapable of doing it. You would have thought that Morison had identified Watters strengths and weaknesses but might have thought that he had seen enough in training to think that watters could hold the ball up and buy some time. Morrison said after a recent goal by Watters that he didn't do much else or words to that affect, so maybe his comments weren't that much of a surprise. The only positive for watters is that morison didn't say that he is incapable of playing in the fashion that he wants him to.
I really don't know what to think of it all. Morison has a contract until May. He isn't going the safe route, he is making noise. Does he have that much confidence and self belief in his methods that he thinks it ok to call out a player in the way that he did? I think that he does. Although is there an element of 'Delusions Of Grandeur' within Morisons character? For someone so new in the managerial game it does make you wonder what he is thinking. I don't think that i have ever heard a manager talk like that about his players in public.
He said he didn’t want him to be Jordan Hugill but we smashed the ball to him like Jordan Hugill. He said his thinking was Watters running in behind but we didn’t play that way. The one time we did he brought a great save out of the keeper!!
The Watters / Davies pairing was doomed to fail,
especially the direct way we played last night. This become quickly apparent and I think he did it to deflect the flack. Luckily for him we got the 3 points but I’d say it was more luck than judgement after that initial starting XI.
He should have shouldered some of the blame for getting it wrong initially but his arrogance wouldn’t allow it. Instead he choose to double down and go at Watters again in the post match interview.
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
Sure as night follows day, he's said Watters wasn't good enough. It was Morison's fault, not Watters. He's an absolute tosser.
Malky and Warnock were tossers and McCarthy not far behind so get over it. Atleast Morison says it straight and not just what the delicate section of fans want to hear
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
https://www.teamtalk.com/leeds-unite...-steve-morison
“Some of the stuff you see on the pitch from me is definitely from Marcelo Bielsa and his coaching staff,” he told the club’s programme, as cited by the Yorkshire Evening Post.
“Their feedback was for me to be more aggressive and play on the front foot and I think the manager here has brought the best out of me since I’ve been here. His desire to get me in was the main reason that I came here.
“As a player, you always want to feel wanted and it seemed like the perfect place for me to come and play. The emphasis has been on being positive and wanting to attack and he’s filled me with a lot of confidence to go and express myself.”
Ta :thumbup:
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stan butler
Malky and Warnock were tossers and McCarthy not far behind so get over it. Atleast Morison says it straight and not just what the delicate section of fans want to hear
So it’s ok for you to think malky, Colin and Mick were tossers but just because you like Morison anyone who thinks he’s a tosser should just “get over it”?
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stan butler
Malky and Warnock were tossers and McCarthy not far behind so get over it. Atleast Morison says it straight and not just what the delicate section of fans want to hear
"the delicate section of fans" says the guy upset by people criticising the manager
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
He said he didn’t want him to be Jordan Hugill but we smashed the ball to him like Jordan Hugill. He said his thinking was Watters running in behind but we didn’t play that way. The one time we did he brought a great save out of the keeper!!
The Watters / Davies pairing was doomed to fail,
especially the direct way we played last night. This become quickly apparent and I think he did it to deflect the flack. Luckily for him we got the 3 points but I’d say it was more luck than judgement after that initial starting XI.
He should have shouldered some of the blame for getting it wrong initially but his arrogance wouldn’t allow it. Instead he choose to double down and go at Watters again in the post match interview.
I didn't see the game and i read what Morison said and you are right. What i did pick up was that he may be wanted Watters to work harder without the ball, or at least be a presence when contesting the ball. I'm guessing that he didn't do that? I don't think that Morison was trying to deflect, i don't believe that he thinks that he has done anything wrong. I really believe that is part of his character.
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Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight
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Originally Posted by
stan butler
Malky and Warnock were tossers and McCarthy not far behind so get over it. Atleast Morison says it straight and not just what the delicate section of fans want to hear
Saying it straight doesn't mean that a person is right, Stan.
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
So it’s ok for you to think malky, Colin and Mick were tossers but just because you like Morison anyone who thinks he’s a tosser should just “get over it”?
I don't like him has a person but he's doing a good job as our manager that's good enough for me.
You haven't liked him since he spoke out about Davies but Davies and Co have moved on
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Originally Posted by
OurManFlint II
It was a passing comment along the lines...we need to be careful who we give credit to for the young players coming through, it certainly wasn't Morison that created that path...he mentioned Mick McCarthy as the one insisting they get the opportunity.
I commented on it previously around the time as i thought it was interesting. Not sure what Gabbs does but i know he works with some of the young players.
I'll check my post history :hehe:
Thanks - that is interesting and yes Gabbs is some sort of mentor to Davies, I think.
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Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I didn't see the game and i read what Morison said and you are right. What i did pick up was that he may be wanted Watters to work harder without the ball, or at least be a presence when contesting the ball. I'm guessing that he didn't do that? I don't think that Morison was trying to deflect, i don't believe that he thinks that he has done anything wrong. I really believe that is part of his character.
We couldnt pass the ball through midfield and Watters just couldnt compete with balls being hit up to him. So much so we were directing a lot of long balls at Drameh which was pretty pathetic.
The fact is the way we were playing Watters never stood a chance. Hugill made a huge difference.
Watters clearly wanted the ball to be played in front of him to run on to and it just wasnt going to happen.
The substitution made a difference but Watters shouldn't have been in that position in the 1st place. He was on a hiding to nothing. If Hugill needed a break Uche should have started and Watters should have been on the bench.
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Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Saying it straight doesn't mean that a person is right, Stan.
I didn't say he was right but if it's his way of dealing with issues then aslong has the team are performing we need to get used it.
I've been there and done it obviously not in football but it does work if it's used has a positive.
What gets me is you just know people watch his interviews hoping he will say something that offends them :hehe:
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Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I didn't see the game and i read what Morison said and you are right. What i did pick up was that he may be wanted Watters to work harder without the ball, or at least be a presence when contesting the ball. I'm guessing that he didn't do that? I don't think that Morison was trying to deflect, i don't believe that he thinks that he has done anything wrong. I really believe that is part of his character.
I agree Morison doesn't believe he's doing anything wrong although that don't make him right or wrong it's just the way he is.
He reminds me of an ex forces officer type that's abrupt even when doing normal daily tasks :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
We couldnt pass the ball through midfield and Watters just couldnt compete with balls being hit up to him. So much so we were directing a lot of long balls at Drameh which was pretty pathetic.
The fact is the way we were playing Watters never stood a chance. Hugill made a huge difference.
Watters clearly wanted the ball to be played in front of him to run on to and it just wasnt going to happen.
The substitution made a difference but Watters shouldn't have been in that position in the 1st place. He was on a hiding to nothing. If Hugill needed a break Uche should have started and Watters should have been on the bench.
Fair enough, like i said, i didn't see the game so maybe i should've reserved judgement. Did Watters attempt to adapt, did he look like a player who thought that this is his lot, so he'd better make the best of it? I'm just trying to see this from Morisons perspective in order to make sense of it, if indeed there is any!
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Originally Posted by
stan butler
I don't like him has a person but he's doing a good job as our manager that's good enough for me.
You haven't liked him since he spoke out about Davies but Davies and Co have moved on
He is doing a reasonable job but the way he is managing staff leaves a lot to be desired. Just because he wears our badge on his tracksuit doesn’t mean we have to adore him or agree on his every word.
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Originally Posted by
stan butler
I don't like him has a person but he's doing a good job as our manager that's good enough for me.
You haven't liked him since he spoke out about Davies but Davies and Co have moved on
I didn’t like him before that and he’s said other things and done other things since the Davies interview which make me dislike him even more. I think he’s a first class prick.
I’m not DML. Just because someone represents Cardiff City I don’t have to blindly like and support everything they do.
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Dave Blue
He is doing a reasonable job but the way he is managing staff leaves a lot to be desired. Just because he wears our badge on his tracksuit doesn’t mean we have to adore him or agree on his every word.
Isaak seems to have taken it well and used it has a positive or am i wrong? It seems to me like he has..
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Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Fair enough, like i said, i didn't see the game so maybe i should've reserved judgement. Did Watters attempt to adapt, did he look like a player who thought that this is his lot, so he'd better make the best of it? I'm just trying to see this from Morisons perspective in order to make sense of it, if indeed there is any!
Re: the Watters substitution, the TV commentators at the time said that it was an "emotional" decision; that Morison 'threw his arms up in the air' when Watters failed to close down the keeper - this despite having a really clever turn and shot on goal shortly before he was hooked.
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Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Fair enough, like i said, i didn't see the game so maybe i should've reserved judgement. Did Watters attempt to adapt, did he look like a player who thought that this is his lot, so he'd better make the best of it? I'm just trying to see this from Morisons perspective in order to make sense of it, if indeed there is any!
We didn’t press as a whole team in the first half hour, we were very passive, he was made a scapegoat because he didn’t run about like an Alex Revell or a Steve Morison.
The game was largely played in our half when he was on and when we did win it back we didn’t even attempt play through the lines we just smashed it aimlessly upfield to him and Davies. Because he’s not a Moore or a Hugill then it was coming straight back but is that really his fault? It’s ok saying he’s not good enough well the tactics were not good enough as far I’m concerned. Especially 1st half.
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Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Fair enough, like i said, i didn't see the game so maybe i should've reserved judgement. Did Watters attempt to adapt, did he look like a player who thought that this is his lot, so he'd better make the best of it? I'm just trying to see this from Morisons perspective in order to make sense of it, if indeed there is any!
He tried putting a square peg in a round hole then blamed the square peg for not fitting.
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Originally Posted by
stan butler
Isaak seems to have taken it well and used it has a positive or am i wrong? It seems to me like he has..
Or maybe Isaak is just a really good player determined to do his best for Cardiff which would have happened with or without being called a hinderance.
We will never know but this Morison is now vindicated is ridiculous as far as I’m concerned. Thats the first bad game, if you could call it that, the lad had for us.
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Citizen's Nephew
He tried putting a square peg in a round hole then blamed the square peg for not fitting.
And ironically he declared there would be no more square pegs even though he played two last night. There is no way Eli King is a right attacking midfielder in a month of Sunday’s. Every time he had the ball he passed it backwards, he didn’t know what to do going forward.
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J R Hartley
I didn’t like him before that and he’s said other things and done other things since the Davies interview which make me dislike him even more. I think he’s a first class prick.
I’m not DML. Just because someone represents Cardiff City I don’t have to blindly like and support everything they do.
I understand some won't like him i've spent years with similar types to him so i'm probably a bit tolerant towards it and don't seem to notice it as much..
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J R Hartley
Or maybe Isaak is just a really good player determined to do his best for Cardiff which would have happened with or without being called a hinderance.
We will never know but this Morison is now vindicated is ridiculous as far as I’m concerned. Thats the first bad game, if you could call it that, the lad had for us.
Has you say we will never know but some will take what Morison said and crumble but others it will increase determination and drive them on..
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stan butler
Has you say we will never know but some will take what Morison said and crumble but others it will increase determination and drive them on..
But that’s the bloody point. You can’t treat all people the same. If Morison makes some of our good players “crumble” then he’s having a negative effect on Cardiff City.
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J R Hartley
And ironically he declared there would be no more square pegs even though he played two last night. There is no way Eli King is a right attacking midfielder in a month of Sunday’s. Every time he had the ball he passed it backwards, he didn’t know what to do going forward.
I’m not sure how King has leapfrogged Bowen… or Pack for that matter
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The general consensus seems to be that Morison was wrong in how he expected Watters to play, and given the service and tactics. That certainly seems the opinion of plenty of fair minded posters.
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Pedro de la Rosa
But that’s the bloody point. You can’t treat all people the same. If Morison makes some of our good players “crumble” then he’s having a negative effect on Cardiff City.
I agree with that. But what i'm saying is that seems to be the Morison way so some fans will be either moaning after every interview or will need to get used to it
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
The general consensus seems to be that Morison was wrong in how he expected Watters to play, and given the service and tactics. That certainly seems the opinion of plenty of fair minded posters.
I'd go along with that, although I still can't work out with Morison if he genuinely believes he is doing the right thing with he's actions and open criticism of the younger players, as he feels it will make them mentally stronger and therefore improve them?
Has he just washed his hands of the likes of Bacuna, Pack, Nelson, Vaulkes Collins etc as he feels most of them will be gone by the start of next season so it's not worth the effort?
Is he just out to put himself in the shop window as he isn't guaranteed to be here next season?
Or is he just someone who couldn't give a toss what anyone else thinks or says as he is 100% right in his view?
There is a pattern of youngsters being held up and publicly ridiculed Davies, Bagan, Colwill and Watters etc
When in reality anyone can see that the problem has been with the established players that simply haven't performed this season.
I guess another win on Saturday and the doubters will start to be won over, although personally I don't think just because he has improved recent results that he should be the only candidate the board look at for next season!
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olderblue
I'd go along with that, although I still can't work out with Morison if he genuinely believes he is doing the right thing with he's actions and open criticism of the younger players, as he feels it will make them mentally stronger and therefore improve them?
Has he just washed his hands of the likes of Bacuna, Pack, Nelson, Vaulkes Collins etc as he feels most of them will be gone by the start of next season so it's not worth the effort?
Is he just out to put himself in the shop window as he isn't guaranteed to be here next season?
Or is he just someone who couldn't give a toss what anyone else thinks or says as he is 100% right in his view?
There is a pattern of youngsters being held up and publicly ridiculed Davies, Bagan, Colwill and Watters etc
When in reality anyone can see that the problem has been with the established players that simply haven't performed this season.
I guess another win on Saturday and the doubters will start to be won over, although personally I don't think just because he has improved recent results that he should be the only candidate the board look at for next season!
Agree with all of that. I really do think that Morison believes that he is doing the right thing when it comes to his open criticisms of certain players, he has to, surely? What kind of person would do that type of thing just for the hell of it?
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Tuerto
Agree with all of that. I really do think that Morison believes that he is doing the right thing when it comes to his open criticisms of certain players, he has to, surely? What kind of person would do that type of thing just for the hell of it?
Let’s see if Watters reacts how Davies did. I think we all agree we need more from Watters if he’s to stay here long term so let’s push him.
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I recorded the game last night and have just watched the key incidents, Sky's analysis of them, Morison's post-match interview and the guests' reaction to it (Jay Bothroyd and Sol Bamba were in the studio).
As Cyclops says above, a couple of the pundits described the Watters substitution as an emotional decision. The cameras perfectly captured Morison throwing his arms in the air and berating Watters for not closing down the keeper quickly enough, and then immediately turning around and signalling to Hugill to get himself ready. They also showed Morison having a bit of a chip at Watters as he came off.
Watters really did look distraught. Credit to Marlon Pack for going over and consoling him, that was a decent thing to do.
My feeling watching the game last night was that the substitution could certainly have waited until half-time and it was something of a petulant move by the manager. It seemed unnecessary to make a public show of Watters in that manner and all of the pundits (Danny Gabbidon, Bothroyd and Bamba) seemed to hold similar views.
As for Morison's post-match interview, to be honest I didn't think it was quite as bad as it seemed when I was reading the words on here this morning. Of course, it would have been easy enough to be kinder to the player and to say something different, and perhaps that would have been more professional, but I didn't think the manner in which the words were delivered was as scathing as I thought it might be.
Afterwards, you could see the ex-City players were a bit uncomfortable about the interview. Bamba made the point several times that Morison treads a fine line when he says these things about players and he needs to be careful or his words could end up doing more harm than good. It was interesting to hear that from someone as experienced and well-respected as Bamba.
Whatever our feelings about Morison are, one thing's for sure - he certainly gives us plenty of talking points.
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Nobody's Rep
Good point re is it results or personality driven but I would say Dave Jones, Russel Slade, Mick Mccarthy and Warnock all had assassins of their character personality and behaviours at some point during their time as manager - mainly through social media and the two main messageboards?
I was thinking about Dave Jones earlier - my memory (which could be wrong) was that he was pretty popular to begin with, but as time wore on he seemed to irritate people more and more by regularly moaning about various things in his press conferences and getting into spats with the local journalists.
I think in the case of Slade and to a lesser degree in the case of McCarthy, many fans were unhappy about their appointments in the first place. As for Warnock, he seemed very popular for most of his time here, although there were always those who could see through his 'my kind of club, my kind of people' bullshit as he says the same thing everywhere he goes.
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stan butler
I agree with that. But what i'm saying is that seems to be the Morison way so some fans will be either moaning after every interview or will need to get used to it
Ha ok, but that’s not what you've said so far. Morison is going to rub players up the wrong way and he’s so think skinned it is unreal. We’ll have to get used to it but it doesn’t mean Morison is always right
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The Lone Gunman
I was thinking about Dave Jones earlier - my memory (which could be wrong) was that he was pretty popular to begin with, but as time wore on he seemed to irritate people more and more by regularly moaning about various things in his press conferences and getting into spats with the local journalists.
I think in the case of Slade and to a lesser degree in the case of McCarthy, many fans were unhappy about their appointments in the first place. As for Warnock, he seemed very popular for most of his time here, although there were always those who could see through his 'my kind of club, my kind of people' bullshit as he says the same thing everywhere he goes.
Think your memory is spot in fairness