England’s first ever red warning for extreme heat on Monday and Tuesday.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I wish I was a liberated, free thinker like you. If I was, I could have believed Covid-19 was no worse than the average dose of flu, football could never be played closed doors, all of the professional clubs would go bust by Christmas 2020, everyone in the UK except for public sector workers would be out of a job by the beginning of 2021 and global warming is a myth.

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Opinions. That's what they are. At least I refrain from personal insults, name-calling.

Would people prefer no weather forecasts, no science, no computer modelling based on years of data?
Let's just go back to see if the cows are lying down, what date the first swallows are spotted and what happens on St Swithins Day, and deal with whatever the weather is like when we wake up on the day.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Opinions. That's what they are.

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Bollocks. That’s what they are.

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Would people prefer no weather forecasts, no science, no computer modelling based on years of data?

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We'd be better off listening to our old nans according to this board's foremost expert on anything and everything.

Bit of an issue for me as both of mine are dead, but such if life.

lets compare to the 1976 heatwave shall we

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976...sles_heat_wave

in terms of health impact states an excess death rate of 20% that summer

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Would people prefer no weather forecasts, no science, no computer modelling based on years of data?
Let's just go back to see if the cows are lying down, what date the first swallows are spotted and what happens on St Swithins Day, and deal with whatever the weather is like when we wake up on the day.

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It’s odd isn’t it. Forget about global warming for now, if we have the facility to identify periods of extreme heat days in advance, why not take precautions to ensure that the most vulnerable are protected?

I saw in this thread that the temperature for London tomorrow was “only” going to be 39 degrees, not the previously predicted 40. Well, even 39 degrees is the highest the UK will have experienced since records began, so the likelihood is that those talking about the high temperatures of their youth have never experienced the sort of temperature some in England will endure tomorrow in their life (in this country anyway).

The oddest thing of all though is how annoyed the snowflakes on here get about the fact that people are being recommended to take precautions in the extreme heat :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

It’s odd isn’t it. Forget about global warming for now, if we have the facility to identify periods of extreme heat days in advance, why not take precautions to ensure that the most vulnerable are protected?

I saw in this thread that the temperature for London tomorrow was “only” going to be 39 degrees, not the previously predicted 40. Well, even 39 degrees is the highest the UK will have experienced since records began, so the likelihood is that those talking about the high temperatures of their youth have never experienced the sort of temperature some in England will endure tomorrow in their life (in this country anyway).

The oddest thing of all though is how annoyed the snowflakes on here get about the fact that people are being recommended to take precautions in the extreme heat :facepalm:

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39 will feel much hotter in London. Yeah, these old farts who base everything on their own experiences, and how they got through it, so what's the fuss all about? They're the modern day version of those Victorians who moaned when Law was brought in to stop 7 year olds shinning up chimney stacks with a brush and scraper.

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

lets compare to the 1976 heatwave shall we

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I'm not sure what your point is (or even if you have one), but if Wiki is accurate then the highest temperature recorded during 1976 was 35.9 degrees in Cheltenham on 03/07/1976.

The forecast for Cheltenham tomorrow is 37 degrees, and 36 degrees on Tuesday.

Meanwhile, the forecast for London is 40 degrees on Monday and 39 degrees on Tuesday.

Ignorance is bliss. This weird climate denial is the modern equivalent of King Canute commanding the waves to retreat. Didn't he drown?

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I'm not sure what your point is (or even if you have one), but if Wiki is accurate then the highest temperature recorded during 1976 was 35.9 degrees in Cheltenham on 03/07/1976.

The forecast for Cheltenham tomorrow is 37 degrees, and 36 degrees on Tuesday.

Meanwhile, the forecast for London is 40 degrees on Monday and 39 degrees on Tuesday.

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Mozz is stuck in 1986, be gentle :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Mozz is stuck in 1986, be gentle

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The weird thing is that people seem to want to draw comparisons with 1976 when the two situations are blatantly obviously different. 1976 saw a sustained heat wave which resulted in a drought. Nobody, but nobody has suggested that's going to happen this year. Indeed, rain is forecast on Tuesday and Wednesday in various places around the UK.

What is being forecast is dangerously high temperatures in some areas for a couple of days. That's it.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Mozz is stuck in 1986, be gentle :hehe:

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and proud !

it was just a comparison as people have mentioned 1976 on here TLG

London had 16 consecutive days of heat over 30 degrees in 1976 whilst this week London will get maybe 3 days over 30 degrees . As an oldie on here i can remember 1976 and from memory very extreme

anyway looking forward to my usual run later today and Tuesday might lose a few more calories than usual !

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

lets compare to the 1976 heatwave shall we

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976...sles_heat_wave

in terms of health impact states an excess death rate of 20% that summer

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I was going to mention Denis Howell. The ex football league referee must be the most successful government minister ever. As soon as he was appointed Minister for Drought the heavens opened:hehe:

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

and proud !

it was just a comparison as people have mentioned 1976 on here TLG

London had 16 consecutive days of heat over 30 degrees in 1976 whilst this week London will get maybe 3 days over 30 degrees . As an oldie on here i can remember 1976 and from memory very extreme

anyway looking forward to my usual run later today and Tuesday might lose a few more calories than usual !

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Be careful you don't dehydrate. I went for a 10k run in the heat a couple of weeks back and it ****ed me. My vision was blurred and i couldn't piss for three days. As for the comparisons, well fair enough and all that, but the difference these days is that there is more awareness in every aspect of life, from work to general living, and it isn't a bad thing. Yes, it's overkill and sensationalist at times, but that's media for you now, it wants peoples attention now. I don't get this dismissive attitude towards warnings like this. Just because some of us old farts were killing ourselves in this heat in days gone by, it shouldn't be seen as enough anecdotal evidence to suggest that these warnings are complete bollocks. Be careful on your run, look for shade :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by lardy

Was 40 ever forecast for Cardiff?

39 is still Mondays forecast for London

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I’m sure it will be fine in London , it’s only for a few days

Ever been to Dubai? it’s around 50 at times and notify bats an eyelid.

I’ve just been on a 30k bike ride … lovely in this weather

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Originally Posted by Doucas

It's not the media though is it, it's the vast vast majority of scientists.

I'll never understand people with no background in science think they know better than NASA, it's incredible.

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Where have I said that I don’t believe it’s going to warm or that I know more than NASA? I haven’t. The media sensationalise everything, and the people in power love it as they’ve seen how docile people that live in fear can be, the last two years have proved that.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

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I’m sure it will be fine in London , it’s only for a few days

Ever been to Dubai? it’s around 50 at times and notify bats an eyelid.

I’ve just been on a 30k bike ride … lovely in this weather

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When you were in Dubai, did you notice that every building is air conditioned, not designed to retain heat, and no one stays outside for a second longer than they need to?

Yes, I'm sure almost everyone in London will survive the next few days, but comparisons with the middle east are deeply flawed.

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Originally Posted by lardy

When you were in Dubai, did you notice that every building is air conditioned, not designed to retain heat, and no one stays outside for a second longer than they need to?

Yes, I'm sure almost everyone in London will survive the next few days, but comparisons with the middle east are deeply flawed.

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Dubai , I’ve been a few time usually in September, off to Shrewsbury Tuesday , and Portugal next week ….. apparently it’s 34 in Portugal ���� Looking forward to it

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Dubai , I’ve been a few time usually in September, off to Shrewsbury Tuesday , and Portugal next week ….. apparently it’s 34 in Portugal ���� Looking forward to it

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Fair play, sounds like you're quite an expert on hot climates.

I've had 8 years of living and working in Singapore which can also get a little warm, and that's why I wouldn't compare it with the UK because everything is designed for a completely different climate.

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Originally Posted by lardy

When you were in Dubai, did you notice that every building is air conditioned, not designed to retain heat, and no one stays outside for a second longer than they need to?

Yes, I'm sure almost everyone in London will survive the next few days, but comparisons with the middle east are deeply flawed.

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London is probably the last place want to be particulay if you're working. I can recall being on a packed northern line tube in very hot weather and it was one to unbearable. Anyone working with or on concrete needs to be careful too. The reflected heat can be very dangerouz

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

It’s odd isn’t it. Forget about global warming for now, if we have the facility to identify periods of extreme heat days in advance, why not take precautions to ensure that the most vulnerable are protected?

I saw in this thread that the temperature for London tomorrow was “only” going to be 39 degrees, not the previously predicted 40. Well, even 39 degrees is the highest the UK will have experienced since records began, so the likelihood is that those talking about the high temperatures of their youth have never experienced the sort of temperature some in England will endure tomorrow in their life (in this country anyway).

The oddest thing of all though is how annoyed the snowflakes on here get about the fact that people are being recommended to take precautions in the extreme heat :facepalm:

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"Hottest since records began" records have only been collated for a very very very short period of time. They are almost meaningless.

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

"Hottest since records began" records have only been collated for a very very very short period of time. They are almost meaningless.

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Yeah, records have only been collated for around 140 years, so they're almost meaningless. After all, we've all been alive for a lot longer than that, haven't we?

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

"Hottest since records began" records have only been collated for a very very very short period of time. They are almost meaningless.

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yes the earth was much hotter before the crust formed and it was just a floating ball of lava, so it'll be fine right?

the recurring thing here is the arrogance of these people

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

"Hottest since records began" records have only been collated for a very very very short period of time. They are almost meaningless.

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One of your weakest efforts - who do you think you are kidding Mr Hitler?

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Originally Posted by lardy

Fair play, sounds like you're quite an expert on hot climates.

I've had 8 years of living and working in Singapore which can also get a little warm, and that's why I wouldn't compare it with the UK because everything is designed for a completely different climate.

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I’m hardly an expert , just adding an opinion on yet another post that has the same posters trying to force their opinions as the correct one.

If these temperatures were in December then I would be worried.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

If these temperatures were in December then I would be worried.

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I suspect nobody in this thread is worried.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I’m hardly an expert , just adding an opinion on yet another post that has the same posters trying to force their opinions as the correct one.

If these temperatures were in December then I would be worried.

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It's just 48hrs, then back to normal. By the end of summer we'll all be worrying about the cost of heating and poorly insulated housing. 365 days a year fretting and worrying. [by some].

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I suspect nobody in this thread is worried.

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Why is there a thread on July temperatures in the UK then ?

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I’m hardly an expert , just adding an opinion on yet another post that has the same posters trying to force their opinions as the correct one.

If these temperatures were in December then I would be worried.

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Interesting language.

You are 'just adding an opinion', while others are 'trying to force their opinions as the correct one'.

What's the difference?

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Originally Posted by Rjk

yes the earth was much hotter before the crust formed and it was just a floating ball of lava, so it'll be fine right?

the recurring thing here is the arrogance of these people

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Not at all. It's been a lot hotter on earth while still supporting complex life.
All i am saying is that it's a bit silly quoting official temperature records that go back 100s of years when the earth is a lot older.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Why is there a thread on July temperatures in the UK then ?

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It's a point of interest, quite obviously. Assuming the forecasts are accurate, I reckon the highest temperatures in the UK during our lifetimes would be considered a noteworthy event, but perhaps you think otherwise.

[QUOTE=lardy;5322389]Interesting language.

You are 'just adding an opinion', while others are 'trying to force their opinions as the correct

It’s interesting is it ?

You need to get out more - or perhaps not given the heat at present

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

All i am saying is that it's a bit silly quoting official temperature records that go back 100s of years when the earth is a lot older.

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What's silly about it? The phrase 'since records began' gives us a bit of a clue.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

What's silly about it? The phrase 'since records began' gives us a bit of a clue.

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It's silly because the time scale is so small.

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

It's silly because the time scale is so small.

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You're trying way too hard under your latest moniker.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

You're trying way too hard under your latest moniker.

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Was he Goebbels_1927 from The Gorbals previously?

People in the most affected areas need to stay hydrated with plenty of water and stay indoors if at all possible.

Those slogging outdoors will be sweating more than crims on death row who have just received notification of their execution date.

Our four-legged friends need consideration, sizzling pavements and tarmac will equal painful paws.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

You're trying way too hard under your latest moniker.

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Where as your arse holery seems effortless. Lol

Only joking, i likes you really x

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Was he Goebbels_1927 from The Gorbals previously?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

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