STEVE MORISON SACKED

Is it too soon to mention Bellamy?

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Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep

If that's the case then it was worth and long overdue - how Dalman clings onto his job amazes me as he stumbles from one disaster to another

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For sure, he for one has cost his boss millions. Yet he stays on doing feckall

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

There’s a few on here who seem pleased that Steve Morison has gone, but, hand on heart, how many of you were calling for his sacking on Friday?

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Oddly it was the second half of the Boro game where we've gone in at half time on an absolute high. Come two thirds of the way through the second half after he's had his say and changed a few things and we're bloody hopeless and clinging on for dear life.

Sure enough we start against Huddersfield how we'd finished at Boro leaving me thinking that the one good half was despite the manager not because of him

I was going to mention Flynn but I'm worried about Hilts' blood pressure!

.....only joking mate. Still, they're higher up the table than County. Just sayin' :wink::hehe:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Is it too soon to mention Bellamy?

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about 4 pages ago :biggrin:

I’m disappointed this has happened 10 games in. I’m not sure what people were expecting from the season but I thought it would likely be tough. He’s been allowed to rebuild the squad I think he should have been given more time to get things right.

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Originally Posted by fugsyphil

Oddly it was the second half of the Boro game where we've gone in at half time on an absolute high. Come two thirds of the way through the second half after he's had his say and changed a few things and we're bloody hopeless and clinging on for dear life.

Sure enough we start against Huddersfield how we'd finished at Boro leaving me thinking that the one good half was despite the manager not because of him

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You're probably not far off the mark.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Probably not many, but I'm not disappointed about it.

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That’s more or less how I feel, but I still think it’s absolutely bonkers.

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Originally Posted by Ninja

It's unfair to judge either Ramasut or Hudson at this point. None of us know what input they've had. Furthermore, it could well be possible that Morison has ignored their input completely and gone with his own egotistical approach, would would not surprise me one bit.

I wanted Morison to be given a chance but he's failed miserably. I'm not suggesting Hudson will be any better, but he can't be much worse surely?

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Morison has said they do most of the coaching. Which means they are directly responsible. Possibly more so than the manager. I’m glad we have reached the end of this though, Morison was deeply polarising and I really, really didn’t warm to him. He’s the thinnest skinned man in football. You’d have thought playing for Millwall he could take a bit of stick

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Morison has said they do most of the coaching. Which means they are directly responsible. Possibly more so than the manager. I’m glad we have reached the end of this though, Morison was deeply polarising and I really, really didn’t warm to him. He’s the thinnest skinned man in football. You’d have thought playing for Millwall he could take a bit of stick

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I think it's safe to say that taking responsibility or criticism weren't his strengths!

Scott Parker?

It's like a Carry on film

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

That’s more or less how I feel, but I still think it’s absolutely bonkers.

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It was bonkers to give a bloke they clearly didn’t wholly trust the most important summer transfer window in years. Be interesting to know how much say he had in making the transfers as well

This screams massive argument behind the scenes, so no way have we got someone lined up

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Originally Posted by Baloo

I’m disappointed this has happened 10 games in. I’m not sure what people were expecting from the season but I thought it would likely be tough. He’s been allowed to rebuild the squad I think he should have been given more time to get things right.

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"Rebuilding the squad" can be broken into different bits.
The easy peasy bit is "getting rid of dead wood" and "cutting the wage bill"; you simply don't renew contracts or you pay people off. You don't need to be a managerial guru to do this and yet he has received a lot of praise for doing so.
The difficult bit is replacing, shaping and motivating. This will be judged on, to a lesser extent (and I am being generous here), performances but ultimately on results. To do this bit, you DO need to be a good manager and he has fallen way short. Subsequently, this and, considering his abysmal lack of anything approaching people skills, was only ever going to end one way. Better now than later in the season when things would probably be even worse.

In any large organisation, the buck stops with the CEO or Chairman.
How is it, then, that with Cardiff City, the senior management seem to be bullet-proof?
Someone else mentioned that the problem is with them and I’m inclined to agree. It’s only about a year since Dalman admitted that club doesn’t have a long term plan.
In recent months I began to think that there was a semblance of a plan with the way the club was heading, but now it looks like Dalman might’ve been right.
The problem is that most of our competitors (including that lot down West) seem to have a plan, so that’s us on the back foot without kicking a ball.
There needs to be an urgent forum with the fans, so hopefully our senior management will haul their 4rses up from London or Monaco and tell us what the heck is going on.

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Originally Posted by John Buchanan

"The difficult bit is replacing, shaping and motivating. This will be judged on, to a lesser extent (and I am being generous here), performances but ultimately on results. To do this bit, you DO need to be a good manager and he has fallen way short. Subsequently, this and, considering his abysmal lack of anything approaching people skills, was only ever going to end one way. Better now than later in the season when things would probably be even worse.

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Do you think that 10 matches is enough to come to this conclusion when we are currently 3 points off 8th place?

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Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw

Do you think that 10 matches is enough to come to this conclusion when we are currently 3 points off 8th place?

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If looking at points only, you make a very fair point. But there are a lot of other factors to take into account. Maybe it is personal and unfair bias on my part but I have never thought he has, or ever will have what it takes.

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Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw

Do you think that 10 matches is enough to come to this conclusion when we are currently 3 points off 8th place?

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Christmas we would have played 22 or so games ? Even if we were adrift at the bottom still plenty of time to bring in a few new faces and change manager. I can't believe this decision was made for 'footballing' reasons. Certainly not after just 10 games.

I’m not gutted about it but if this was going to happen it should have happened last season before he bought in a whole squad worth of players in the summer.

Surely there’s been a bust up somewhere .

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

I was going to mention Flynn but I'm worried about Hilts' blood pressure!

.....only joking mate. Still, they're higher up the table than County. Just sayin' :wink::hehe:

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interesting times....

Morison by no means perfect, but at least some aspects of the club were starting to move in a better direction.
I do worry about who we might appoint next.

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Originally Posted by John Buchanan

"Rebuilding the squad" can be broken into different bits.
The easy peasy bit is "getting rid of dead wood" and "cutting the wage bill"; you simply don't renew contracts or you pay people off. You don't need to be a managerial guru to do this and yet he has received a lot of praise for doing so.
The difficult bit is replacing, shaping and motivating. This will be judged on, to a lesser extent (and I am being generous here), performances but ultimately on results. To do this bit, you DO need to be a good manager and he has fallen way short. Subsequently, this and, considering his abysmal lack of anything approaching people skills, was only ever going to end one way. Better now than later in the season when things would probably be even worse.

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My point wasn’t that he would definitely have turned things around but that it’s very early to be anywhere near certain either way.

Whether he’s a good manager or not, and the jury is definitely still out there, letting him sign 17 players and completely reshape the squad to play a certain style and then firing him a couple weeks after the window closes is just another sign of a shockingly run club from the top down.

Yes his sacking is a bit of a shock but if you look at it dispassionately you see a manager who consistently tinkers with the line-up, has no natural leaders in the team HE has put together, seems tactically inept and is more concerned with performance over results. Unlike some, his abrasiveness and arrogance didn't concern me but call it a gut feeling if you like, I don't think he was ever the man to take us forward.

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Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw

Do you think that 10 matches is enough to come to this conclusion when we are currently 3 points off 8th place?

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But only 1 point, and with a worse goal difference, than Middlesboro who are 3rd from bottom. Do you honestly think we were ever going to reach the dizzy heights of 8th place under what you have seen this season?

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Originally Posted by LA Bluebird

Whether he’s a good manager or not, and the jury is definitely still out there, letting him sign 17 players and completely reshape the squad to play a certain style and then firing him a couple weeks after the window closes is just another sign of a shockingly run club from the top down.

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Yep what we need more than anything is new owners….Christ someone even bought Bournemouth the other day. It’s almost like no one will ever buy us because Tan wants his 100 million that Dalman wasted back…..:hehe:

Sorry, I’m not gonna read 10 pages.

I’m not a Morison fan but what a totally stupid & ill thought out move. Allow him to convince 17 players to sign and then sack him after less than 10 games, what were they expecting?

Sack the board & the owner!

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Originally Posted by Des Parrot

Sorry, I’m not gonna read 10 pages.

I’m not a Morison fan but what a totally stupid & ill thought out move. Allow him to convince 17 players to sign and then sack him after less than 10 games, what were they expecting?

Sack the board & the owner!

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Somewhere within this 10 pager there’s the exact reason he got fired, including an hour by hour timeline of what happened today. Not telling you which page though

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Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw

There needs to be an urgent forum with the fans, so hopefully our senior management will haul their 4rses up from London or Monaco and tell us what the heck is going on.

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There has and never will be fan consultation.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

You may have a point , he doesn't suffer fools .. perhaps he was questioned by owner or board and he simply said I can't build with no fecking money or backing... done what's asked of me cleared out the overpaid dross and now ?? I need backing ..

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Delmbox....'This screams massive argument behind the scenes, so no way have we got someone lined up'

Tuerto......I reckon that he's chinned one of the players :hehe:

The consenus appears to be that this is a really stupid by the Board given they backed him for wholesale change of players and style; less popular is that it's time he went, the signs were there since the Birmingham game or otherwise a version of the above opinions which I tend to feel is correct since there's been no obvious signs of discontent that we could see and the club's statement contains no word of thanks from Vincent Tan.

Is this all about, or the last straw... Rubin Colwill? Did the club have decent offers in the summer (turned down on manager's advice) but now he's given no game time? I guess we'll know soon enough.

WOL reckon it was just because Tan was worried about getting into a relegation fight.
Also suggesting that Hudson will be given a chance to prove himself worthy of the job full time. Hope not. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...steve-25048877

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Somewhere within this 10 pager there’s the exact reason he got fired, including an hour by hour timeline of what happened today. Not telling you which page though

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It's got to be page five:hehe:

Words fail. This club is a basket case, a laughing stock. At least I've saved a few £ not going to the last two away matches which has already been put to better use (flights to Portugal).

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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland

WOL reckon it was just because Tan was worried about getting into a relegation fight.
Also suggesting that Hudson will be given a chance to prove himself worthy of the job full time. Hope not. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...steve-25048877

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I always think what Abbandonato says is an accurate representation of club thinking, so,
what a depressing read that is - we’ll go for the cheap option again.

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Originally Posted by LA Bluebird

Whether he’s a good manager or not, and the jury is definitely still out there, letting him sign 17 players and completely reshape the squad to play a certain style and then firing him a couple weeks after the window closes is just another sign of a shockingly run club from the top down.

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Cannot agree more.....

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I always think what Abbandonato says is an accurate representation of club thinking, so,
what a depressing read that is - we’ll go for the cheap option again.

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Relegation looking far more likely then….good work Tan:facepalm:

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I always think what Abbandonato says is an accurate representation of club thinking, so,
what a depressing read that is - we’ll go for the cheap option again.

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That would be depressing. They should be looking at it as an opportunity instead. Get the right man in and I really think this squad is decent enough, maybe with a couple of additions in January, to do well. Apart from Sheff Utd and Norwich everyone else is pants!

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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland

WOL reckon it was just because Tan was worried about getting into a relegation fight.
Also suggesting that Hudson will be given a chance to prove himself worthy of the job full time. Hope not. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...steve-25048877

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It's like déjà vu all over again.

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

It's like déjà vu all over again.

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What about the U23 guy? He can fill in for a bit can't he?