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Personally I think all those players fall into the not quite good enough at PL level but excellent or very good at championship level. A bit like Whitts and Bothroyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monster munch
Same goes for Rodon, Connor Roberts and Mepham.
Ethan Ampadu aside none of these players start very often for their club certainly not regulars.
Neco and Ampadu are still young enough to improve and become regular starters but both, in my mind, have gone backwards.
“Complacent” Wales “humiliated”, but it had been coming.
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Good report as always Bob, and you express my sentiments exactly, regarding Page and the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
We definitively need Brooks replacing Moore (who I'm sure had his mind on his honeymoon more than last night's match) and give Brennan Johnson a more central role. If I had to put money on it though, I have a horrible feeling Page will replace Moore with Bradshaw. Hopefully, if that doesn't happen, we can pick up a point.
The game reminded me of the World Cup. Everybody could see the setup was wrong and yet the manager still did nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue
Neither Rodon or Mepham would defend like that for their clubs. The quality of players they were up against was no better - probably worse - than they're used to playing against. Ramsey as usual sees his role as an interested onlooker, and should never have been given the captaincy over Ben Davies. Page couldn't have put it better ....."Perhaps it was the slap we needed. A little bit of a reality check. Everyone was getting starry-eyed and carried awayQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
After the abysmal performance at the World Cup I was sure our coach (no way is he a manager) Mr Page would have been given a pat on the back and replaced with an experienced Manager. The current squad of players are at best championship standard and one or two are there on reputation only.
So if the players are just average then unless some great man motivator is available .....a sort of international warnock .......should we be replacing the manager ?Quote:
Originally Posted by slomaj
Page is a terrible manager, he's learned absolutely nothing from his past failures. He keeps picking the midfield 3 of Ramsey, Ampadu & Wilson even though they get ripped apart every time they play as a trio
There's no particular plan involved, just slow, easy to defend passing and then lump it when we get bored (as long as we haven't lost the ball that is). Long balls and long throws rather than building around our best prospect in Johnson. There is a decent side in there being woefully mismanaged
Everything looks so casual, like there are no consequences for failure and there probably aren't, I imagine all the players that were shocking last night will be picked on Monday
Get him gone now while we can still save this campaign
For the next friendly game I would give some of the young players a runout in midfield and see who sinks or swims.
Take it the games at RotherhamQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I was hearing good things about Terry Taylor before he got injured and I believe Sheff Utd were sniffing around. He will probably end up in the Championship next season, so one to keep an eye on alongside J. James, L. Harris, Levitt & Savage, etc. Wilson is not a classical midfielder, so if we are going to have a transition we may as well do it properly. Even Ramsey is better at going forward than defending.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Mepham and Rodon in a central back 2 is absolute suicide, especially with that midfield where Ampadu is the only one trying to run all over the field trying to provide cover. It doesn't take the slightest bit of tactical nous to see that. You can only assume either Page hasn't been watching club games this year or had the arrogance to assume that we'd blow Armenia away going forward so easily that it wouldn't matter if we shipped a few at the back.
Hard to disagree with anything Iwan Roberts said today. If it's not a back 3 with Davies as one of the outside center backs against Turkey we will be lucky to not concede more. It is very unfortunate that Tom Lockyer had his scary incident when he did because based on that performance he'd be the first name on the team sheet next week.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65938398
Ex-Wales striker Iwan Roberts has rounded on manager Robert Page's tactics and response to the shock Euro 2024 qualifier defeat by Armenia.
It's also harder to get out a Page team than it is to get in it!Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
I was saying how poor we would be without a Bale advantage when before he retired and that we'd have to wait years, for the next tournament, it will be a shame we've been spoilt but the team is weak with no depth and Page is an average 1st division level Manager, it was fun while it lasted.