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Even the BBC's own disinformation specialist is ignoring the BBC, and having a lovely outdoors holiday in the "killer" Italian sunshine :hehe:
https://twitter.com/mariannaspring/s...16221864132608
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So in conclusion out of 4 or 5 people in this thread who say man made climate change isn't happening, not a single one could answer what scientists say is the the physical process that is causing climate change and what about that process they disagree with.
They were asked 10 times and all they could do was divert. The question above should be the foundation of their denialism but there isn't even one attempt to answer it.
So to sum up, it is more clear than ever that these people don't have a clue and should be ignored like the nutjobs they are, pre-internet they'd be in the pub corner by themselves and ignored but now mental illness like this can congregate.
I won't post in this thread again as it's utterly pointless trying to convince people like these. Just have to let nature take its course and wait them out.
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So in conclusion out of 4 or 5 people in this thread who say man made climate change isn't happening, not a single one could answer what scientists say is the the physical process that is causing climate change and what about that process they disagree with.
They were asked 10 times and all they could do was divert. The question above should be the foundation of their denialism but there isn't even one attempt to answer it.
So to sum up, it is more clear than ever that these people don't have a clue and should be ignored like the nutjobs they are, pre-internet they'd be in the pub corner by themselves and ignored but now mental illness like this can congregate.
I won't post in this thread again as it's utterly pointless trying to convince people like these. Just have to let nature take its course and wait them out.
Huh, I sent you a link , and it was what your mate sent you anyway , looks like you have just jumped on the “Current Thing”. I mean come on you have just had installation installed, something that most people had undertaken by compulsory order 30 years ago.
You have a lot of catching up to do.
Not having kids is not the answer either unless it’s for other reasons
What EPC are you ?
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Huh, I sent you a link , and it was what your mate sent you anyway , looks like you have just jumped on the “Current Thing”. I mean come on you have just had installation installed, something that most people had undertaken by compulsory order 30 years ago.
You have a lot of catching up to do.
Not having kids is not the answer either unless it’s for other reasons
What EPC are you ?
I think the bit Doucas is struggling with is around the link you sent to Bob (not him) from the Met Office site which gave a very lucid description of the case for man made climate change.
The bit where he seems to be tearing his hair out with your evasion and distraction is you setting out your rationale for the second bit of the question. Why you don't think it is correct?
If you did that I am sure he would go away with his tail between his legs.
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The cartoon is a classic wheeze used by people trying to shut down an argument.
(Some load of utter bollocks by here.)
Jesus christ you are seriously mental son, go and get some help.
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I think the bit Doucas is struggling with is around the link you sent to Bob (not him) from the Met Office site which gave a very lucid description of the case for man made climate change.
The bit where he seems to be tearing his hair out with your evasion and distraction is you setting out your rationale for the second bit of the question. Why you don't think it is correct?
If you did that I am sure he would go away with his tail between his legs.
It’s not a case of making him go away with his tail between his legs , at the same time ,the answer his is looking for has been provided in a link, together with a Twitter post that is more my thinking. No point going into detail when the person asking the question has just installed 30 years old tech.
Unless you’re in an purposefully built new home the whole eco drive is unattractive and expensive to most.
Perhaps you
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It’s not a case of making him go away with his tail between his legs , at the same time ,the answer his is looking for has been provided in a link, together with a Twitter post that is more my thinking
Climate change is real and it has been occurring for around 4.54 billion years, so I am not sure why certain people are calling others climate change deniers. The issue is the current use of climate change as a method to implement more restrictions and control, a bit like the C19 restrictions and control, but this time on steroids.
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Climate change is real and it has been occurring for around 4.54 billion years, so I am not sure why certain people are calling others climate change deniers. The issue is the current use of climate change as a method to implement more restrictions and control, a bit like the C19 restrictions and control, but this time on steroids.
The climate disciples should feel comfort that Billy boy has been mooting a plan to spray the sky's to enable blocking the suns rays, sorted & panic over, as previously said in this thread I'm not frightened, Billy has it boxed off for the greater good. :biggrin:
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The climate disciples should feel comfort that Billy boy has been mooting a plan to spray the sky's to enable blocking the suns rays, sorted & panic over, as previously said in this thread I'm not frightened, Billy has it boxed off for the greater good. :biggrin:
Greenpeace co-founder, Dr. Patrick Moore:
"There is no scientific proof that carbon dioxide is responsible for any of the slight warming of the global climate. But there is certainty beyond doubt that it is the building block for all life on Earth."
https://twitter.com/drelidavid/statu...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
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Greenpeace co-founder, Dr. Patrick Moore:
"There is no scientific proof that carbon dioxide is responsible for any of the slight warming of the global climate. But there is certainty beyond doubt that it is the building block for all life on Earth."
Which makes sense once you realise the goal is to eliminate a large amount of life on earth.
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Which makes sense once you realise the goal is to eliminate a large amount of life on earth.
I know you like RED :biggrin:
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Rules for thee but not for me
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The climate cultist <a href="https://twitter.com/Ed_Miliband?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Ed_Miliband</a> turns out to be hypocrite of the decade…<br><br>Here he is using private jet and fossil fuel powered big Range Rover…..<br><br>Just apologise for impoverishing others with your Net Zero stupidity while you spank emissions around with gay abandon <a href="https://t.co/zrUvy2Z1We">pic.twitter.com/zrUvy2Z1We</a></p>— Richard Tice 🇬🇧 (@TiceRichard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TiceRichard/status/1682383121927241729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Rules for thee but not for me
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The climate cultist <a href="https://twitter.com/Ed_Miliband?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Ed_Miliband</a> turns out to be hypocrite of the decade…<br><br>Here he is using private jet and fossil fuel powered big Range Rover…..<br><br>Just apologise for impoverishing others with your Net Zero stupidity while you spank emissions around with gay abandon <a href="https://t.co/zrUvy2Z1We">pic.twitter.com/zrUvy2Z1We</a></p>— Richard Tice ���� (@TiceRichard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TiceRichard/status/1682383121927241729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Had a laugh at this picture, Heathy. I was jovially tucking away a few smooth ales last night in The Counting House pub and this very man popped up in casual conversation. Some chap in front of me raised the Milibands in conversation with his chum, and the question went like this:
"So, Arthur. Do we think those two Miliband brothers will be making a temporary appearance again if the Red Rosette crosses the winning line next year?"
Finishing his beer, his chum in a three quarter length black coat, quipped "No doubt that mob will be back, and those pair of dweebs too in one form or another. They're a pair of torn hymens, those two."
"Sorry? I don't follow"
"Torn Hymens. The pair of them. Both of them have been broken and beaten once, but guaranteed to come back for more. Must dash. Goodbye"
And that was that. A few of us had a laugh on that one. To be fair, he had a valid point. I think once Labour are back in, big brother Dai Mili-Dweeb will be back too, sniffing for a role. Blairite. And a grifter. He won't want to do any hard work for the election. Just wait for the win, and then call Starmer to get a job like "Minister Without Portfolio" or some nonsense title. He'll suddenly decide he doesn't want to "do charity" anymore for 500k a year and will want a whiff of power again. Very charitable.
Grifters got to grift, y'know.
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Most likely a case of hypochondriasis.
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Are you trying to claim that global temperatures (talking climate not weather) have not risen starkly in 30years?
Or that human activity is not the major cause of temperature rises?
Or that the effects in many places (especially low coastal and global south) will not be devastating?
Or that millions of elderly, sick and poor will not die prematurely?
Or that climate change will not cause misery, destabilisation, greater migration pressures and a fight for essential resources?
This is just made up shit and manipulated hysteria directed by the WEF, the BBC, and Nat West (Farage distraction)?
Just a personal view, but I don’t think a bit of red on a weather map is sinister - although probably overdue!
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At least those in your will, will have a little more to spend without a cremation cost. Freebie init :biggrin:
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Are you trying to claim that global temperatures (talking climate not weather) have not risen starkly in 30years?
Or that human activity is not the major cause of temperature rises?
Or that the effects in many places (especially low coastal and global south) will not be devastating?
Or that millions of elderly, sick and poor will not die prematurely?
Or that climate change will not cause misery, destabilisation, greater migration pressures and a fight for essential resources?
This is just made up shit and manipulated hysteria directed by the WEF, the BBC, and Nat West (Farage distraction)?
Just a personal view, but I don’t think a bit of red on a weather map is sinister - although probably overdue!
Are you saying sunken cities occurred throughout history because of global warming?
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Are you saying sunken cities occurred throughout history because of global warming?
No.
But they certainly didn’t occur because of human activity on the scale seen in the last two centuries - and especially the last five decades.
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Jesus christ you are seriously mental son, go and get some help.
Alan, that the first sensible thing you've ever written: kudos!
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Are you trying to claim that global temperatures (talking climate not weather) have not risen starkly in 30years?
Or that human activity is not the major cause of temperature rises?
Or that the effects in many places (especially low coastal and global south) will not be devastating?
Or that millions of elderly, sick and poor will not die prematurely?
Or that climate change will not cause misery, destabilisation, greater migration pressures and a fight for essential resources?
This is just made up shit and manipulated hysteria directed by the WEF, the BBC, and Nat West (Farage distraction)?
Just a personal view, but I don’t think a bit of red on a weather map is sinister - although probably overdue!
Aw come on Jon, compared to the namby pamby “experts” who bleat on constantly about how the planet is warming thanks to man made interventions, pointing out that televised weather forecasts portray the same temperatures in a different colour than they did thirty years ago is pretty compelling stuff. Similarly, don’t you realise that the temperatures recorded on continental Europe over the past ten days or so are, apparently, ground temperatures, so they don’t really count.
Also, you make the mistake of not realising that we’re fortunate enough to have a few posters on here who know everything about everything except, perhaps, the meaning of the term “sorry, it turns out I was wrong there”.
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Aw come on Jon, compared to the namby pamby “experts” who bleat on constantly about how the planet is warming thanks to man made interventions, pointing out that televised weather forecasts portray the same temperatures in a different colour than they did thirty years ago is pretty compelling stuff. Similarly, don’t you realise that the temperatures recorded on continental Europe over the past ten days or so are, apparently, ground temperatures, so they don’t really count.
Also, you make the mistake of not realising that we’re fortunate enough to have a few posters on here who know everything about everything except, perhaps, the meaning of the term “sorry, it turns out I was wrong there”.
It makes me proud to think the Dunning-Kruger index on this forum is around the highest of all football message boards.
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It makes me proud to think the Dunning-Kruger index on this forum is around the highest of all football message boards.
In your case, and Doucas, I'd say it was Jacob-Kruger (disease) not Dunning-Kruger you need to worry about. A right pair of mad cows, moo-ing to collective beat of the tribal drum.
Keep believin' Joseph. Keep believin'. :hehe:
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I can confirm the weather in Greece is normal for this time of the year according to extended family who have been living in the same spot for 30 years.
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I can confirm the weather in Greece is normal for this time of the year according to extended family who have been living in the same spot for 30 years.
I'd like to confirm after having a quick Jog up to Screwfix this morning, it's pissing down with rain, as it was when i woke at 06.55 this morning and the temperature is probably average for this time of the year, maybe the damper Infront of the sun needs stoking ?.
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I'd like to confirm after having a quick Jog up to Screwfix this morning, it's pissing down with rain, as it was when i woke at 06.55 this morning and the temperature is probably average for this time of the year, maybe the damper Infront of the sun needs stoking ?.
I guess some people were desperate for it to be hotter than normal. Better luck next time!
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I guess some people were desperate for it to be hotter than normal. Better luck next time!
They have alerts on their phones for every degree increase. I had a tradesperson :biggrin: at the house yesterday doing some work for me, 1st job back a holiday in Spain, and was surprised at the kerfuffle over the temp, it was very warm but nothing out of the ordinary. B.T.W its still pissing down!!!
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They have alerts on their phones for every degree increase. I had a tradesperson :biggrin: at the house yesterday doing some work for me, 1st job back a holiday in Spain, and was surprised at the kerfuffle over the temp, it was very warm but nothing out of the ordinary. B.T.W its still pissing down!!!
Nobody will answer me about what will happen if they've got this thing wrong. It's like put your faith in the climate gods and don't question anything! Once you start deindustrialising and playing around with the food supply you are asking for trouble if it all goes to sh*t.
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will this go viral ?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Will this go VIRAL? <br><br>Absolutely brilliant and accurate statement about the WEF and it’s mad leadership. <a href="https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Nigel_Farage</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/charliekirk11?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@charliekirk11</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/GBNEWS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GBNEWS</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/mrmarkdolan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mrmarkdolan</a> <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/HUapxvZbwJ">pic.twitter.com/HUapxvZbwJ</a></p>— John Mappin (@JohnMappin) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnMappin/status/1682733389479137280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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I've just had a report from family on the ground in Greece. It's all farkin BS :hehe:
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Don't confuse them with facts Paul.
After all someone got rained on today, and Gluey's extended research group (family) failed to fry an egg on a Greek car.
Whether it's all weather or climate also causes neurological melt down (although they will deny any melting of course).
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Don't confuse them with facts Paul.
After all someone got rained on today, and Gluey's extended research group (family) failed to fry an egg on a Greek car.
Whether it's all weather or climate also causes neurological melt down (although they will deny any melting of course).
I trust my sources 100%
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Don't confuse them with facts Paul.
After all someone got rained on today, and Gluey's extended research group (family) failed to fry an egg on a Greek car.
Whether it's all weather or climate also causes neurological melt down (although they will deny any melting of course).
I must have missed his neurological peaking. Somewhere on the intellectual equivalent of the Steppes I would imagine!
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In your case, and Doucas, I'd say it was Jacob-Kruger (disease) not Dunning-Kruger you need to worry about. A right pair of mad cows, moo-ing to collective beat of the tribal drum.
Keep believin' Joseph. Keep believin'. :hehe:
Is Google not working for you today Tosspot?
I think you probably meant variant Creutzfeldt -Jacob disease. However I'm as mad as a Hatter, not a cow.
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I must have missed his neurological peaking. Somewhere on the intellectual equivalent of the Steppes I would imagine!
I know your type, if you were alive in 1542 you'd be going around accusing everybody of witchcraft!
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I trust my sources 100%
Of course you do - once you have considered all the contrary evidence, triangulated, and worked through a wide range of different media (taking account of their specific biases and agendas) to arrive at a wise and balanced conclusion. One that would pass any peer review at Harvard (or other academic establishment where you have close and admiring contacts).
But you (and Heath and Mozzer and a few others) are starting to confuse me. I can no longer work out whether:
A - You think all the reports by the scientific community and world media of climate change (and average world temperature sharp rises) are a lie, invented and malicious - designed to dupe the sheeple into accepting a new WEF led bunker dictatorship (the Organ Morgan world-view), or
B - You think there is such a thing as climate change and that average temperatures are rising but that is just what happens and has happened since the Big Bang - no human accelerator involved so just sit in the shade a bit more, or
C - You accept that the climate is being changed in a dangerous direction partly as a result of human actions, but the measures proposed to put a break on that, and save several billions of people from adverse effects of drought and rising sea levels are way too inconvenient and anyway it rained yesterday?
Help me out.
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I've just had a report from family on the ground in Greece. It's all farkin BS :hehe:
I must have missed the reports from them that you posted earlier this week, were they in another thread?
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Leading the jet set lifestyle that I do, to confirm, its pissing down in the Port as well. Need a brolly just to get to the garden pub.