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To be hitting the 20000 mark after 3 awful years is pretty commendable.
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I hate going over old ground but there’s still plenty who stopped going down following the rebrand. Considering how poor we’ve been, the rebrand, cost of living and COVID, our attendances aren’t that bad.
5 out of the 10 kids in my boys football class turn up weekly in City kits. It might not seem like it at times but we’re moving in the right direction.
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Corky, are you going to be printing all this out then or wha'?!
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Eric the Half a Bee
Because they are talking about ways of improving support doesn't mean there's widespread concern.
One choir I run often talks about how we can increase membership, but that doesn't mean we're concerned with numbers.
Maybe Sludge is being deliberately obtuse.
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I guess, I've cone to this thread a bit late seeing as it has already got 9 pages, but here goes from my point of view.
Kids are our future. Kids for a quid on match days when we play teams when there are likely to be much less supporters in the ground, on say five or six times per season.
Another couple of thoughts on the family stand, how about every kid that has a season ticket gets a free programme every time they go to a home game? Maybe get a couple of the team, those who are are coming back from injury and those on the fringe of the team, appear in the concourse between 1.30 and 2.30 to sign autographs. Imagine the kids if say Ramsey (currently) and one of the younger fringe players who isn't in the matchday squad turning up to sign programmes pre-match .
How about filling the Upper Ninian stand with free tickets given out to schools in in South Wales.
When we were last in the prem there were two home games v Bournemouth and Huddersfield where it was buy one ticket get a 2nd free. We should be trying that again when we have less ground filling games. We could have done this recently with the home games v Rotherham and Watford and filled the ground up. We have Blackburn and Preston at home at the end of Jan/beginning of Feb. Two games when the crowd won't be great, would be good to see that initiative used then.
Have a shop in the centre of the city, where tickets as well as shirts etc can be purchased, making sure that cash can be paid for tickets as well as card. On that note , do NOT rip off supporters two quid everyone time they purchase a ticket on line, with a 'booking fee', as it leaves a very bad taste in the mouth. Have lots of 'special offers' on kids clothes in the shop as well.
Make it easier for fans, or those who are visiting our City for the weekend, who decide to go to a game at the last minute to easily purchase tickets at the ground, at NO extra cost and with NO booking fee. Once again make it acceptable for them to pay cash for the ticket. Don't rip fans off by charging a £2 booking fee per ticket.
Cheap tickets for students at University in Cardiff
How about offering food at a decent price. The pubs in Canton always seem pretty packed on match days. The club should be looking at enticing the fans away from Canton and City centre puts and into the ground for reasonably cheap food, with seats and tables to sit at. How about showing a re-run of city's last match on screens in the concourses? Or even music in every concourse, played by a live band.
On the above note, how about the club selling some decent ale at a reasonable price and not the current grossly over-priced pish water that is currently on sale. I'd never ever buy a drink at the ground because of no decent real ale, the laughable price of the pish water and the fact that you have to pay by card. Why no tie-in with local brewery like Brains or even Rhymney? Also how about making sure you can pay with cash as well as by card.
A FREE bus shuttle service from town (Wood St?) every 15 minutes from 12 midday to 2.30 on a Saturday matchday, and 5.30 to 7.15 of a night game. Free return bus shuttle service every 10 minutes after a match for the 2 hours after. There needs to be far more carriages on the trains to and from the central to Ninian Halt and Grangetown. Not sure who that would be down to to get that sorted
How much is the car park these days? I paid to park there the once, last home game of the, I think, 15/16 season v QPR. £8 feckin' quid for 2 1/2 hours? What an absolute joke! Only used it because my mate had knackered knees and couldn't walk. A fiver max. If you are family with say three kids, especially younger ones, then you basically have to use the car park. It just adds another layer onto what is an expensive day out for a family of say two adults and three kids.
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The squad need to do more, they should go to the schools on a regular basis and have training sessions. They could hand out some freebies. It's not the older person the club need to target they've already decided who they are going to follow.
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WJ99mobile
If the Welsh Government really gave a **** about climate change they'd do more with train services and partner with events like this.
It's cheaper and more convienient for people to sit in traffic and park than to get a train next to the stadium.
On a seperate point, the games are too late for kids on a weekday. Kids getting in at 11pm is not practical when they have school the next day.
KOs should be 7/7.15 but that will never change
Why is 7.45pm set in stone? Half 6 kick offs should be given a trial, better for away fans (even us going away for night games, you’re taking the time off work anyway that day and you’ll be home much earlier after the game if you’re up for work next morning). I find myself kicking my heels waiting for quarter to eight, I’d rather get down the City and get the match started earlier.
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splott parker
Why is 7.45pm set in stone? Half 6 kick offs should be given a trial, better for away fans (even us going away for night games, you’re taking the time off work anyway that day and you’ll be home much earlier after the game if you’re up for work next morning). I find myself kicking my heels waiting for quarter to eight, I’d rather get down the City and get the match started earlier.
It's a very good question actually. I have no idea where 7.45 came from?
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splott parker
Why is 7.45pm set in stone? Half 6 kick offs should be given a trial, better for away fans (even us going away for night games, you’re taking the time off work anyway that day and you’ll be home much earlier after the game if you’re up for work next morning). I find myself kicking my heels waiting for quarter to eight, I’d rather get down the City and get the match started earlier.
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JamesWales
It's a very good question actually. I have no idea where 7.45 came from?
It’ll be 8.30pm before long to allow people time to get to CCS at 20mph :hehe:
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JamesWales
It's a very good question actually. I have no idea where 7.45 came from?
If you are working and out of town it isn’t easy getting there for 7:45.
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Went to Newport today, they have a club shop in the Kingsway centre. I know we had one once but that's when we were red.
This maybe something to look at, as they could sell tickets there as well
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Dave Blue
If you are working and out of town it isn’t easy getting there for 7:45.
Especially as around 50% of the clubs support is from the surrounding areas rather than the city itself
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J R Hartley
Especially as around 50% of the clubs support is from the surrounding areas rather than the city itself
And the rest let's be honest
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J R Hartley
Especially as around 50% of the clubs support is from the surrounding areas rather than the city itself
Ok, might mean it’s a bit of a struggle to get to a 6.30pm kick off, may have to finish work a bit earlier or go straight from work but on the other hand getting home would be more straightforward. Wouldn’t be hitting the house around midnight, it’s six of one and half a dozen of the other.
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splott parker
Ok, might mean it’s a bit of a struggle to get to a 6.30pm kick off, may have to finish work a bit earlier or go straight from work but on the other hand getting home would be more straightforward. Wouldn’t be hitting the house around midnight, it’s six of one and half a dozen of the other.
It really isn’t. You’ve also not considered people trying to get over the the stadium in rush hour so the early kick off would not just affect those living from outside Cardiff but also those from the east of the city too. And then would the club want everyone turning up at once? Or do you think it’s reasonable for employers to just let people finish work an hour early just because an employee supports a football club an hours travel away?
There’s obviously reason clubs the length and breadth of the country kick off midweek games between 7.30 and 8pm and not 6.30pm for the very small demographic of people who are retired or don’t work and have plenty of time on their hands to get to the match.
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Before the advent of Sky etc, evening games kicked off at 7.30pm - a much better time in my opinion. 8 o'clock leaves me getting back home at 10.30pm sometimes and I'm quite local..
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A Quiet Monkfish
Before the advent of Sky etc, evening games kicked off at 7.30pm - a much better time in my opinion. 8 o'clock leaves me getting back home at 10.30pm sometimes and I'm quite local..
Before the advent of sky City we’re getting crowds of about 3000
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splott parker
Ok, might mean it’s a bit of a struggle to get to a 6.30pm kick off, may have to finish work a bit earlier or go straight from work but on the other hand getting home would be more straightforward. Wouldn’t be hitting the house around midnight, it’s six of one and half a dozen of the other.
As in so many things, people who live in Cardiff have no idea what challenges exist for people who don't. The amount of moaning I hear whenever there is any development in the centre - eg the opening up of the feeder on Churchill Way - when the rest of Wales is being starved of investment is astonishing. The transport infrastructure outside of Cardiff isn't fit for purpose and you get people moaning because they're without a bus station for a few years. I live in mid Wales and I simply wouldn't be able to attend evening games starting at 6.30. And I'm hardly an exception. But as long as it suits the city dwellers that's OK I guess.
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Robin Friday's Ghost
As in so many things, people who live in Cardiff have no idea what challenges exist for people who don't. The amount of moaning I hear whenever there is any development in the centre - eg the opening up of the feeder on Churchill Way - when the rest of Wales is being starved of investment is astonishing. The transport infrastructure outside of Cardiff isn't fit for purpose and you get people moaning because they're without a bus station for a few years. I live in mid Wales and I simply wouldn't be able to attend evening games starting at 6.30. And I'm hardly an exception. But as long as it suits the city dwellers that's OK I guess.
Calm down:hehe: It was only a suggestion, the thread was asking for ideas to improve support and that was my suggestion for evening games. Getting to and from evening games is sometimes (or always) a chore, as I said, it’s six of one and half a dozen of the other. Yes, an earlier kick off would be very awkward for non Cardiff residents (and a lot of city dwellers as well) but leaving the stadium at about 8.30pm after the match would ease the the difficult journey home.
Perhaps it boils down to poor transport rather than kick off times.
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splott parker
Calm down:hehe: It was only a suggestion, the thread was asking for ideas to improve support and that was my suggestion for evening games. Getting to and from evening games is sometimes (or always) a chore, as I said, it’s six of one and half a dozen of the other. Yes, an earlier kick off would be very awkward for non Cardiff residents (and a lot of city dwellers as well) but leaving the stadium at about 8.30pm after the match would ease the the difficult journey home.
Perhaps it boils down to poor transport rather than kick off times.
I'm perfectly calm. You made a suggestion. I pointed out that's it's symptomatic of the Cardiff - centric attitude that pervades many areas of Welsh life.
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Robin Friday's Ghost
I'm perfectly calm. You made a suggestion. I pointed out that's it's symptomatic of the Cardiff - centric attitude that pervades many areas of Welsh life.
As it should! :ayatollah:
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Dave Blue
If you are working and out of town it isn’t easy getting there for 7:45.
That’s the fault of the transport infrastructure
If the ticket included park and train perhaps it would be much better
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Armitage Shanks
Went to Newport today, they have a club shop in the Kingsway centre. I know we had one once but that's when we were red.
This maybe something to look at, as they could sell tickets there as well
It was ALWAYS empty even when we were in blue and in the Prem.
There’s just not enough people wanting a shirt. We are not that big and never will be
Maybe a street stall would be much better
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WJ99mobile
That’s the fault of the transport infrastructure
If the ticket included park and train perhaps it would be much better
You're assuming all our fans live near a railway line then?
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WJ99mobile
It was ALWAYS empty even when we were in blue and in the Prem.
There’s just not enough people wanting a shirt. We are not that big and never will be
Maybe a street stall would be much better
That shop wasn’t there when we were last in the PL was it? I think it was only there for a few years.
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Robin Friday's Ghost
I'm perfectly calm. You made a suggestion. I pointed out that's it's symptomatic of the Cardiff - centric attitude that pervades many areas of Welsh life.
I’d imagine an earlier evening kick off time would suit many of our family stand fans, regardless of where they live. Arriving home with your kids at nigh on midnight on a school night can’t be good and most probably leads to a lot of them binning night games.
N.B. Have you got a problem with Cardiff based City fans, or a problem with Cardiff per se ?
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splott parker
I’d imagine an earlier evening kick off time would suit many of our family stand fans, regardless of where they live. Arriving home with your kids at nigh on midnight on a school night can’t be good and most probably leads to a lot of them binning night games.
N.B. Have you got a problem with Cardiff based City fans, or a problem with Cardiff per se ?
I don't have a problem with anyone, wherever they live and however blinkered to the challenges faced by others they are.
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Robin Friday's Ghost
You're assuming all our fans live near a railway line then?
If you really want to go down a transport rabbit hole I believe you should only have circular busses around train stops included in the price, rather than shuttle run busses.
You shouldn’t have to pay twice or walk
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Canton Kev
That shop wasn’t there when we were last in the PL was it? I think it was only there for a few years.
No it was shut before 18/19
I can’t imagine it being any more busy anyway
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Robin Friday's Ghost
I don't have a problem with anyone, wherever they live and however blinkered to the challenges faced by others they are.
Exactly, it’s a hell of a challenge getting your kids up for school the morning after a night game I’d imagine. I know it’s hard enough getting up after a night away game, getting home earlier would make a hell of a difference.
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WJ99mobile
If you really want to go down a transport rabbit hole I believe you should only have circular busses around train stops included in the price, rather than shuttle run busses.
You shouldn’t have to pay twice or walk
And you shouldn't have to subside fans who can use trains to get to the ground by having the cost of rail travel included in the cost your ticket when you don't have that option.
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splott parker
Exactly, it’s a hell of a challenge getting your kids up for school the morning after a night game I’d imagine. I know it’s hard enough getting up after a night away game, getting home earlier would make a hell of a difference.
Within the space of about 10 messages you've become the champion of family fans 😂😂😂
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Robin Friday's Ghost
Within the space of about 10 messages you've become the champion of family fans 😂😂😂
If it wasn’t for those pesky kids……….:hehe: