Labour Election Promises (Broken) Thread

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Stop worrying , disguising it as ��

He only needs 35 percent approval, that will keep the tories out

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It’s like talking to a deranged narcissist with certain posters and in particular you.

The squeeze on the hardworking public and hardworking retired people is on and you are arguing about nicknames are You Gov polls.

Your views are irrelevant as they are so politically motivated , but suppose you get a some sort of special treatment and recognition on this platform where you wouldn’t have got elsewhere on a daily basis.

Out of interest are you an Facebook ?

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

It’s like talking to a deranged narcissist with certain posters and in particular you.

The squeeze on the hardworking public and hardworking retired people is on and you are arguing about nicknames are You Gov polls.

Your views are irrelevant as they are so politically motivated , but suppose you get a some sort of special treatment and recognition on this platform where you wouldn’t have got elsewhere on a daily basis.

Out of interest are you an Facebook ?

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What on earth are you talking about ?

The Tories have lost the election

It was obvious that the early stages ....in this case days .....would be topsy-turvy

What we have at the moment is people who are not happy with a Labour government ....the likes of you ......jumping up and down

You want them to fail , desperately....but it's at least 5 years

That's the way it is

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

What on earth are you talking about ?

The Tories have lost the election

It was obvious that the early stages ....in this case days .....would be topsy-turvy

What we have at the moment is people who are not happy with a Labour government ....the likes of you ......jumping up and down

You want them to fail , desperately....but it's at least 5 years

That's the way it is

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I’m not bothered either way as I know that voters such as yourself think they have the illusion of choice when infact every party is very similar apart from the odd policy here and there. I just find it hard to comprehend that you can’t resonate with that and prefer to believe that the Labour government is different to the Tory Party or any other political system when it’s not and prefer spend hours of your day arguing. ( not just on political issues)Its tragic.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I’m not bothered either way as I know that voters such as yourself think they have the illusion of choice when infact every party is very similar apart from the odd policy here and there. I just find it hard to comprehend that you can’t resonate with that and prefer to believe that the Labour government is different to the Tory Party or any other political system when it’s not and prefer spend hours of your day arguing. ( not just on political issues)Its tragic.

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Well you are the one who voted Tory so you clearly thought THEY were a choice

And you are the one belting out these threads

So you clearly are bothered

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Well you are the one who voted Tory so you clearly thought THEY were a choice

And you are the one belting out these threads

So you clearly are bothered

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I’ve just given you my thoughts and opinions so why don’t you just accept what I’ve just stated. Just because someone creates a thread doesn’t mean they are bothered.

Same with the City , I can discuss issues the style of play etc but I’m not particularly bothered if they win or lose as long as I have a good day out with either my peers or my son and wife.

I’m more exited about my son’s football team these days ,and I’ve also taken up a new sport which I’m more passionate about than the City. The rebrand probably didn’t help , plus the move to the new stadium is pretty boring for me but I can see the appeal for families.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I’ve just given you my thoughts and opinions so why don’t you just accept what I’ve just stated. Just because someone creates a thread doesn’t mean they are bothered.

Same with the City , I can discuss issues the style of play etc but I’m not particularly bothered if they win or lose as long as I have a good day out with either my peers or my son and wife.

I’m more exited about my son’s football team these days ,and I’ve also taken up a new sport which I’m more passionate about than the City. The rebrand probably didn’t help , plus the move to the new stadium is pretty boring for me but I can see the appeal for families.

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I am not going to accept what you have stated as your thoughts and opinions are biased against this new government

I can't accept something I totally disagree with can I?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I am not going to accept what you have stated as your thoughts and opinions are biased against this new government

I can't accept something I totally disagree with can I?

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What the hell are you taking? You really need to pack it in son, whatever it is.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

You want them to fail , desperately....but it's at least 5 years

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They're not going to fail, the people are.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I am not going to accept what you have stated as your thoughts and opinions are biased against this new government

I can't accept something I totally disagree with can I?

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Ok I’ll try again, I voted Lib Democrats in the last GE , how does that make you feel :hehe:

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Ok I’ll try again, I voted Lib Democrats in the last GE , how does that make you feel :hehe:

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Unlucky

Wasted vote

Maybe at the next election the libs will be needed in a coalition

Until then it's all irrelevant

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Opinion Polls are complete bollocks

They had Labour on 42 percent and the vote share they got was 35

Reform were on 18 percent , ended up 14

Stop worrying

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Sludge, you're defending the indefensible. So much of what happened between 2010 and 2024 was indefensible and now Starmer's Labour party are being equally cruel to many people whose lifestyle's will suffer because of a Government's austerity policies - just so happens that this one is, allegedly, left of centre.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Sludge, you're defending the indefensible. So much of what happened between 2010 and 2024 was indefensible and now Starmer's Labour party are being equally cruel to many people whose lifestyle's will suffer because of a Government's austerity policies - just so happens that this one is, allegedly, left of centre.

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There was no way that Labour could right all the wrongs in a swipe of the pen

Plenty of people who benefitted from the sale of council houses at a cheap rate ......through the use of public money to incentivise .....which led to cuts for other people .....and the tory years of tax cuts ......again meaning other people and other services were cut are now chomping at the bit to have a go at starmer

I don't buy it

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

There was no way that Labour could right all the wrongs in a swipe of the pen

Plenty of people who benefitted from the sale of council houses at a cheap rate ......through the use of public money to incentivise .....which led to cuts for other people .....and the tory years of tax cuts ......again meaning other people and other services were cut are now chomping at the bit to have a go at starmer

I don't buy it

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Labour didn't have to start adding to the list of wrongs by cutting cold weather payments for pensioners though did they. It's right up there with the cuts the coalition Government made to support for the disabled in terms of cruelty. I had no great expectation of this Government being a friend of those least able to support themselves in life, but they've proved themselves to be worse than I was expecting

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

There was no way that Labour could right all the wrongs in a swipe of the pen

Plenty of people who benefitted from the sale of council houses at a cheap rate ......through the use of public money to incentivise .....which led to cuts for other people .....and the tory years of tax cuts ......again meaning other people and other services were cut are now chomping at the bit to have a go at starmer

I don't buy it

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You are a virtual signalling idiot , the lack of empathy you have shown towards the elderly shows what kind of character you really are.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Labour didn't have to start adding to the list of wrongs by cutting cold weather payments for pensioners though did they. It's right up there with the cuts the coalition Government made to support for the disabled in terms of cruelty. I had no great expectation of this Government being a friend of those least able to support themselves in life, but they've proved themselves to be worse than I was expecting

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It's nowhere near the same

Being old is not a disability

And pensioners have more disposable income than disabled people

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

You are a virtual signalling idiot , the lack of empathy you have shown towards the elderly shows what kind of character you really are.

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Virtue signalling .....yet another term used almost exclusively by right wing fools

the elderly are not all poor are they ?

In fact under the Tories they have in general been very well looked after in comparison to the disabled for example

You daft klutz

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Virtue signalling .....yet another term used almost exclusively by right wing fools

the elderly are not all poor are they ?

In fact under the Tories they have in general been very well looked after in comparison to the disabled for example

You daft klutz

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Right wing , do you think by calling posters with different opinions to your extremely narrow views has any traction at all ? It’s tiresome and shows that you simply cannot deal with it.

Have a look in the dictionary what Virtual Signaling is , and you fit the bill. You simply cannot think for yourself and trying to generate a debate with you is like speaking to someone with issues. Are you on prescription medication by any chance?

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Right wing , do you think by calling posters with different opinions to your extremely narrow views has any traction at all ? It’s tiresome and shows that you simply cannot deal with it.

Have a look in the dictionary what Virtual Signaling is , and you fit the bill. You simply cannot think for yourself and trying to generate a debate with you is like speaking to someone with issues. Are you on prescription medication by any chance?

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You are not looking in the mirror

I can deal with the fact that you are clearly right wing as it comes out in almost every one of your posts

Its ironic that you seem to be suggesting that you think for yourself as you are always quoting other sources or using idiot terms like virtue signalling

GB News, Talk Tv and the right wing nutjobs on the internet use that language and the two tier cobblers all the time ......I would imagine you love tuning into all that crap ....especially when the likes of Jim Davidson and Katie Hopkins are drooling and talking rubbish

I have got a lot of issues of what car magazine ?

In terms of all this protect the pensioners waffle in a time of economic crisis its absolutely insane for cash rich pensioners like the relative you brought up to be given 300 quid to help for his energy bills when that money is far better used elsewhere .....or do you think we should be staffing away money ?

The majority of pensioners will be ok and it's up to the government through pension credit and the voluntary agencies....Ageuk etc ....to try and ensure those that struggle are helped

Try being the word here as people will always slip through the net

If we were able to pay for everything or give money to your father in law just because he's a pensioner then we would need the country to be in a good place and it clearly isn't

Now several posters have tried to explain this to you but all you can do is suggest those that don't agree with your regurgitated posts about this awful labour government ....of 6 weeks ......either have issues or have no empathy with vulnerable pensioners

Which is of course cobblers as the most important thing to do when the economy is on its arse is to target cash at the poor

And whilst 16 percent of pensioners struggle financially 27 percent of disabled people do too

Again some disabled people are financially OK so isn't it fair that government help is targeted right across the board ?

If uncle Bert is 75 but has two houses , flys off to tenerife in March and October and plays a lot of golf what is the arguement for giving him a cost of living or winter fuel allowance ?

It's crazy

And if Starmer has back tracked in your opinion then you need to be ready for all the times previous governments have done tge same

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

You are not looking in the mirror

I can deal with the fact that you are clearly right wing as it comes out in almost every one of your posts

Its ironic that you seem to be suggesting that you think for yourself as you are always quoting other sources or using idiot terms like virtue signalling

GB News, Talk Tv and the right wing nutjobs on the internet use that language and the two tier cobblers all the time ......I would imagine you love tuning into all that crap ....especially when the likes of Jim Davidson and Katie Hopkins are drooling and talking rubbish

I have got a lot of issues of what car magazine ?

In terms of all this protect the pensioners waffle in a time of economic crisis its absolutely insane for cash rich pensioners like the relative you brought up to be given 300 quid to help for his energy bills when that money is far better used elsewhere .....or do you think we should be staffing away money ?

The majority of pensioners will be ok and it's up to the government through pension credit and the voluntary agencies....Ageuk etc ....to try and ensure those that struggle are helped

Try being the word here as people will always slip through the net

If we were able to pay for everything or give money to your father in law just because he's a pensioner then we would need the country to be in a good place and it clearly isn't

Now several posters have tried to explain this to you but all you can do is suggest those that don't agree with your regurgitated posts about this awful labour government ....of 6 weeks ......either have issues or have no empathy with vulnerable pensioners

Which is of course cobblers as the most important thing to do when the economy is on its arse is to target cash at the poor

And whilst 16 percent of pensioners struggle financially 27 percent of disabled people do too

Again some disabled people are financially OK so isn't it fair that government help is targeted right across the board ?

If uncle Bert is 75 but has two houses , flys off to tenerife in March and October and plays a lot of golf what is the arguement for giving him a cost of living or winter fuel allowance ?

It's crazy

And if Starmer has back tracked in your opinion then you need to be ready for all the times previous governments have done tge same

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Huh what are you waffling on about now, go and pester someone else, I’m bored of you.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Huh what are you waffling on about now, go and pester someone else, I’m bored of you.

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I have put you in a box 📦

It's goodnight sweetheart

Stay in that maze , you ain't coming out

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I have put you in a box 📦

It's goodnight sweetheart

Stay in that maze , you ain't coming out

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Cool story Bro

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Cool story Bro

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You think you are a bright fellow

I have laid out a series of questions for you

Instead of answering them , on a thread you started by the way , you have gone to ground

The only virtue signaller on here is you , there's not a group in society that you are not prepared to represent in your one eyed search for justice against this awful government , of 6 weeks

Does your missus know you spend most of your life poncing about on here like Mary Whitehouse ?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

You think you are a bright fellow

I have laid out a series of questions for you

Instead of answering them , on a thread you started by the way , you have gone to ground

The only virtue signaller on here is you , there's not a group in society that you are not prepared to represent in your one eyed search for justice against this awful government , of 6 weeks

Does your missus know you spend most of your life poncing about on here like Mary Whitehouse ?

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Tit for tat name calling now are you , too late bro and , have you actually looked up what a virtue signaller is?

It’s you to a tee , and with regards to my missus , yes she does think I spend too much time on here with “ keyboard warriors “ as she calls them. At least I’ve got a missus and kids and as it’s the weekend it’s time to sign off until Monday.

Keep taking the meds bro, and learn how to debate properly :wave:

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Tit for tat name calling now are you , too late bro and , have you actually looked up what a virtue signaller is?

It’s you to a tee , and with regards to my missus , yes she does think I spend too much time on here with “ keyboard warriors “ as she calls them. At least I’ve got a missus and kids and as it’s the weekend it’s time to sign off until Monday.

Keep taking the meds bro, and learn how to debate properly :wave:

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The thing is .....I have asked you to debate with my last but one post ?

But you just bottled it and told me you were bored 😴

And now you are on about medication ?

I think you are making an idiot of yourself here

Well done on finding a wife and knowing how to make children

What an incredible gift 🎁

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

You think you are a bright fellow

I have laid out a series of questions for you

Instead of answering them , on a thread you started by the way , you have gone to ground

The only virtue signaller on here is you , there's not a group in society that you are not prepared to represent in your one eyed search for justice against this awful government , of 6 weeks

Does your missus know you spend most of your life poncing about on here like Mary Whitehouse ?

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But why do you expect answers Sludge when you so often do not respond to questions or points from other posters to you?

You are always doing it to me.

[QUOTE=TWGL1;5539481]Tit for tat name calling now are you , too late bro and , have you actually looked up what a virtue signaller is?

It’s you to a tee , and with regards to my missus , yes she does think I spend too much time on here with “ keyboard warriors “ as she calls them. At least I’ve got a missus and kids and as it’s the weekend it’s time to sign off until Monday.

Keep taking the meds bro, and learn how to debate properly :wave:[/QUOTE

Far better to just ignore him and the other members of his squad. 😁 just occasionally drop the odd truth bomb and melt away for a few days. Works a treat.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Tit for tat name calling now are you , too late bro and , have you actually looked up what a virtue signaller is?

It’s you to a tee , and with regards to my missus , yes she does think I spend too much time on here with “ keyboard warriors “ as she calls them. At least I’ve got a missus and kids and as it’s the weekend it’s time to sign off until Monday.

Keep taking the meds bro, and learn how to debate properly :wave:[/QUOTE

Far better to just ignore him and the other members of his squad. 😁 just occasionally drop the odd truth bomb and melt away for a few days. Works a treat.

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Well if you could try that it would be great but we are always waiting for these ?

You are as insane as he is

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

But why do you expect answers Sludge when you so often do not respond to questions or points from other posters to you?

You are always doing it to me.

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No answer came the stern reply

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Tit for tat name calling now are you , too late bro and , have you actually looked up what a virtue signaller is?

It’s you to a tee , and with regards to my missus , yes she does think I spend too much time on here with “ keyboard warriors “ as she calls them. At least I’ve got a missus and kids and as it’s the weekend it’s time to sign off until Monday.

Keep taking the meds bro, and learn how to debate properly :wave:[/QUOTE

Far better to just ignore him and the other members of his squad. 😁 just occasionally drop the odd truth bomb and melt away for a few days. Works a treat.

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I take them with a pinch of salt usually.

But I get a bit fed up of some posters completely ignoring the points I make with some inane comment, a piece of political whataboutery, or making assumptions about my views which are simply not true.

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

I take them with a pinch of salt usually.

But I get a bit fed up of some posters completely ignoring the points I make with some inane comment, a piece of political whataboutery, or making assumptions about my views which are simply not true.

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I have the answer-Don't get involved :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

I have the answer-Don't get involved :thumbup:

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But that way my point of view doesn't get heard!

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

But that way my point of view doesn't get heard!

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heaven forbid!

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

The thing is .....I have asked you to debate with my last but one post ?

But you just bottled it and told me you were bored ��

And now you are on about medication ?

I think you are making an idiot of yourself here

Well done on finding a wife and knowing how to make children

What an incredible gift ��

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Beyond you though? Making them is easy, raising them properly isn’t….And working for a living? The guy who barely ever left Wales, whose worldly knowledge went as far as Benidorm….yiu shoukd run for being a Labour MP, what don’t you know? Perfect for it

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Originally Posted by goats

Beyond you though? Making them is easy, raising them properly isn’t….And working for a living? The guy who barely ever left Wales, whose worldly knowledge went as far as Benidorm….yiu shoukd run for being a Labour MP, what don’t you know? Perfect for it

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I have always been sensible enough to wear a lid

Who hasn't left Wales?

You certainly can't be referring to me because that would be incorrect

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

heaven forbid!

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What is that meant to mean?

Sludge got to be state pensionable age he's been on here donkey years. Question is why is he comfortable losing his heating allowance.

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Originally Posted by Alfresco

Sludge got to be state pensionable age he's been on here donkey years. Question is why is he comfortable losing his heating allowance.

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Many years till I get there

And when I do I will have enough money to be able to say I don't need this , please spend it on the NHS

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Originally Posted by Alfresco

Sludge got to be state pensionable age he's been on here donkey years. Question is why is he comfortable losing his heating allowance.

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I’m on the state pension and because I’m also on a works pension, I’m okay with losing the heating allowance, but that’s not the point, there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, who will find it hard to cope with a decision by a Labour Government that they should be ashamed of.

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Originally Posted by Alfresco

Sludge got to be state pensionable age he's been on here donkey years. Question is why is he comfortable losing his heating allowance.

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It's an act more despicable than that of the milk snatcher in 1971 but received far differently by the champagne ccmb socialist militia.

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

It's an act more despicable than that of the milk snatcher in 1971 but received far differently by the champagne ccmb socialist militia.

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best one yet :hehe: :hehe: