It was undoubtedly a clear victory but don't forget that land doesn't voteQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
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It was undoubtedly a clear victory but don't forget that land doesn't voteQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
You know that absolutely no fegger lives in a lot of those red shaded areas don't you ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
If you get 50 people stupid enough to vote for Donald Trump but only 75 people live in the town it doesn't mean that America is wall to wall stupid
Although it's not far off
Most of the big cities are in the blueQuote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Yes exactly the point I was makingQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
There's more cattle than people in the red areas. They've been milking the votesQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
And by the way, that's where the homeless and ghettoes are.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
It's not a population map, it's a map of US counties and how they voted in the election.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
You could put up a similar type map of Great Britain and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was still more blue than red.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
What point are you trying to make?
I see "Trump cheated" is trending on Twitter now after Democrat voters latched on to the big drop in the party's vote and assumed that some skullduggery had taken place. I notice though that MAGA voters (does the old Republican party exost any more?) have responded with claims that the 2024 turnout was very similar to every election since 2008, apart from the 2020 one.
I've not checked the figures, but I can remember reports at the time saying that the turn out in 2020 had been a lot higher than in other recent elections, so I think they're probably right and this has, understandably led them to claim that, as 2020 was the outlier,, it's more likely that any cheating occurred then.
The problem I have with that though is that, if we accept that the Democrats, or the "deep state" had the means and the inclination to fiddle the previous election, why didn't they do the same this time around or have those who really run things switched their support to Trump?
I'd say the answer is more straightforward than that. Although I'm still baffled as to how so many Americans can just forget about things like 6 January, Trump being a felon and the sort of thing we saw at the Madison Square Gardens rally, they have done so and voted accordingly.
In 2016, far more people voted in the Brexit Referendum than do in a General Election. Millions clearly thought whether we stayed in the EC or not was a far more important question than the identity of the next Government and an awful lot of people who took part in the democratic procedure back in 2016 have not bothered to do so since then.
I can understand people not wanting to remember what living in the uk or USA entailed back in 2020, but the negative reaction against incumbent Governments had already started and Trump suffered badly because it was generally believed that he was more of a hindrance than a help when it came to fighting the pandemic.
I believe that it's perfectly possible that the 2020 American election was akin to 2016 Referendum and millions more voted because they had a motivation to do so having spent much of the previous year living under restrictions they'd never experienced before. Millions who didn't normally vote put their trust in Joe Biden and the Democrats and when they felt that they'd been let down badly as they saw prices rising so sharply, they decided to withdraw that support and revert to their normal position - i.e. not voting for anyone.
There's been a lot of talk about how America has changed in the last two years (don't forget the Democrats did much better than expected in the 2022 mid term elections), but the actual figures just say that the MAGA vote held steady as their elevation from the generally considered 47/48 per cent rose over the 50 per cent mark because the Democrat vote dropped by nearly 15 per cent.
I don't think the 2020 election was "stolen" and I don't think this one was either, what we've seen, just as we did in the summer over here, are the consequences of one of the main two party's vote collapsing.
Covid and mail-in ballots is what was different in 2020.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
How different was 2020 from 2024 when it comes to mail-in ballots?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I have seen figures that say there were 65m mail-in ballots in 2020 and nearly 30m had been returned in 2024 a week before the election date - but on the sites I have seen the figures are often conflated with 'early voting in person' numbers. It is also confused by every state having different rules and ways of counting. There were over 65m absentee ballots requested in 2024, and in a lot of states that is the first stage of getting a postal ballot!
I assume there were more mail-in ballots in 2020 because of Covid, but in 2024 the Republicans had lost their fear of participatory democracy and were very actively promoting early and mail-in voting!
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
To the most part I think they've handled the rowbacks quite well, but it has been pretty humorous with the journalists making them squirm for past comments
S Pineless 🤣 Superb and spot on 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Disappointing for some I understand.
And whilst not yet inaugurated
- First Female chief of staff appointed
- Stock market hitting all-time highs
- EU wants to buy US gas
- Hamas wants an immediate end to war
- Russia ready to speak with US to end Ukrainian war
- Taliban wants a new chapter
- China wants a peaceful coexistence
IMO
Area of concern thus far, Marco Neo-Con Rubio to be in his admin although ive not seen this confirmed by OMB as yet.
You're an idiot and do not "understand" anything at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
:hehe: I know you voted for KariQuote:
Originally Posted by az city
Some of these are wild even for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Female Chief of Staff - Tick
Stock Market Highs - Tick but let's see how that plays out when he's actually President shall we
EU wants to buy US gas - Tick but discussions about not being reliant on Russia for gas supplies have been going on for a few years.
Hamas wants an immediate end to the war - Here's what Hamas said:
"Palestinians look forward to an immediate cessation of the aggression against our people, especially in Gaza, and look for assistance in achieving their legitimate rights of freedom, independence, and the establishment of their independent self-sovereign state with Jerusalem as its capital"
Right, so literally nothing has changed :hehe:
Russia ready to speak to US to end Ukraine war - What terms do you reckon Russia will end the Ukraine War under and do you think they'll be different to the terms they'd have ended the War under Biden? And, crucially, do you think Ukraine will accept those terms? Putin's just happy to have his biggest fan in the White House because it strengthens his hand, it's nothing to be proud or happy about.
Taliban wants a new chapter - Eh?!! :hehe:
China wants a peaceful coexistence - Finally an end to the bloodshed in Biden's US-China war :sherlock:
First two maybe, I’d say all the rest are about as close as we are to getting promoted!Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
This Presidential election had the similar effect of swapping Steve Morison for Neil Warnock.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
The US stock market hits an all-time high every two weeks on average. It's never anything to shout about when it happens.
Like night follows day 🤣 its getting far 2 easy chaps.
10 million to Beyoncé.
5 million to Meghan Thee Stallion.
2.3 million to Lizzo
1.8 million to Eminem
Losing the oval and both chambers of Congress PRICELESS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Agenda47: President Trump’s Plan to Dismantle the Deep State and Return Power to the American People
https://rumble.com/v2e4bm6-agenda47-...urn-power.html
Will you be posting Rachael Maddow videos on a daily basis this time around?Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Priceless is you pretending you have any idea who any of those people are you mad old weirdo :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
I'd be pissed off if I was M&M.Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Forgot about the million to OPRAH :thumbup: although TBF, I thought why would they be giving 1 million to a web Browser :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
The book that RFK Jr wrote lays out a big part of it in fine detail.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Doesn't The CCMB meltdowns make all the insults worthwhile 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Seething they are. 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
See Musk has been put in charge of reviewing Government spending and staff levels. I asked a question of the gifted independent thinkers on here last week and strll haven't had an answer to it - accepting for now that you are right about big pharma having an undue influence on Governments throughout the world and that this is a bad thing, why do they feel that giving Silicon Valley billionaires the amount of influence they'll have in the new Trump Government is something to be celebrated? Why is someone like Musk so much better for the ordinary working man or woman than the CEO of a big Pharmaceutical company?
Why is a man who was joking with Trump about sacking striking workers a few weeks ago such a friend of the people that voted Trump into power?
Elon Musk & Vivek Ramaswamy have just been appointed to jointly run the Department of Government Efficiency. This newly created department will have unprecedented power to cut funding to any rogue and/or underperforming government agencies.
The table is now set, and the only question I would ask is whether or not Musk, Kennedy Jr & Ramaswamy are straight shooters? We will find out soon enough if they are here to help Trump, or just hinder his progress.
Enjoy the ride!
Can't answer right now, see above post.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Everyone loves a little bit of Doge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Enjoy the show
We have it all
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😂
It was the 'return power to the American people' bit that I was laughing at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
You are surely not that credulous.... are you? :hehe:
She lost, twerp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Did she ? Well who knew 🥸Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
Focus Maricopa
We have it all
Enjoy the show.
N.C.S.W.I.C
"Q"
Where are you emigrating to now Trump is in power , Canada ?Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
I think it might be time to send in Team Doge for a full state audit to see how efficient they are :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue