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Wales-Bales
That is what the attorney from Trump for America, Inc. is claiming in a 7 page letter delivered to the Chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs, and the Chairman of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight & Government Reform.
So claimed to being illegal. You are a couple of steps ahead I know because you will be questioning why now and doubting the substance of these allegations made by a partisan lawyer until the aggrieved people file lawsuits!
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cyril evans awaydays
So claimed to being illegal. You are a couple of steps ahead I know because you will be questioning why now and doubting the substance of these allegations made by a partisan lawyer until the aggrieved people file lawsuits!
It's already been filed to Congress and the Senate (see above).
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Vimto
Remember the days when 'liberal' meant an open-minded, level-headed caring person and wasn't an insult?!
TBH that just sounds a bit (or a lot) like Don is very fed up of this current 'awkward' FBI and would like to make a new one - possibly full of faithful Trumpers.
What a 'liberal libtard' I am for posting that ;)
All I got from the 30’seconds I watched of today’s video brought you by the official fan club of Trump Cardiff branch (30 seconds more then enough of him) was more attempts to distract from the investigation he finds himself in.
Sounds like he wants to create a team of his minions, if there anything like his judge selections God Help the American people.
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Wales-Bales
I think the label was misappropriated a long time ago.
I don't.
It's final utter deformation and complete perversion of former meaning is a relatively recent thing.
And toward some kind of f*cked up outcome, quite likely.
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Vimto
I don't.
It's final utter deformation and complete perversion of former meaning is a relatively recent thing.
And toward some kind of f*cked up outcome, quite likely.
Same with the right wing and far left, they have different meanings these days.
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CardiffIrish2
All I got from the 30’seconds I watched of today’s video brought you by the official fan club of Trump Cardiff branch (30 seconds more then enough of him) was more attempts to distract from the investigation he finds himself in.
Sounds like he wants to create a team of his minions, if there anything like his judge selections God Help the American people.
I can see how you managed to get a 2.2 in Law :hehe:
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Wales-Bales
It's already been filed to Congress and the Senate (see above).
So they sent a letter to Congress and the Senate Committees. I guess anyone can do that. Didn't Allred do the same on the Roy Moore accusations. What's different?
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cyril evans awaydays
So they sent a letter to Congress and the Senate Committees. I guess anyone can do that. Didn't Allred do the same on the Roy Moore accusations. What's different?
The U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs, and the U.S. House Committee on Oversight & Government Reform oversee the General Services Administration goverment agency.
Allred didn't do anything except make some claims, same as her daughter did with Trump. There was never any follow up.
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Wales-Bales
The U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs, and the U.S. House Committee on Oversight & Government Reform oversee the General Services Administration goverment agency.
Allred didn't do anything except make some claims, same as her daughter did with Trump. There was never any follow up.
Two lawyers write two letters to different committees for two different reasons and get two completely different reactions from you. Got it!
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cyril evans awaydays
Two lawyers write two letters to different committees for two different reasons and get two completely different reactions from you. Got it!
Trump for America, inc. is government related, it is the legal framwork for the transitionional government.
The Allred family dish out large amounts of money from dodgy Democrat doners for political gain.
How on earth can you even compare the two? :sherlock:
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...robert-mueller
Interesting.
Yep it's the Guardian... etc etc, but the article contains peoples direct quotes and tweets .
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Vimto
The Guardian are on the anti-Trump team. If you've been paying attention, then you will have noticed that this is a very large team. It includes the Democrats, some Republicans, the majority of the media, elements of the FBI and DOJ, and members of the Judiciary, etc.
How Trump is still in the game is a remarkable feat in itself, but what we are now witnessing the the realtime exposé of a corrupt state, yet the majority on here are still rooting for the corruptors. It must be fascinating for the anthropologists who study this kind of thing.
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Wales-Bales
Trump for America, inc. is government related, it is the legal framwork for the transitionional government.
The Allred family dish out large amounts of money from dodgy Democrat doners for political gain.
How on earth can you even compare the two? :sherlock:
Trump for America, how could anyone confuse this for a partisan organisation? To look wider we seem to moving into an interesting phase. The discrediting of the investigation (triggered let's not forget by the Trump appointed Deputy Attorney General) is accelerating which can only mean that the investigation is getting closer to organ grinders rather than the monkeys it has prosecuted so far. Expect more chaff like this before either Trump presses the nuclear button or Mueller gets his prey.
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cyril evans awaydays
Trump for America, how could anyone confuse this for a partisan organisation? To look wider we seem to moving into an interesting phase. The discrediting of the investigation (triggered let's not forget by the Trump appointed Deputy Attorney General) is accelerating which can only mean that the investigation is getting closer to organ grinders rather than the monkeys it has prosecuted so far. Expect more chaff like this before either Trump presses the nuclear button or Mueller gets his prey.
I'm not sure whose side the Deputy Attorney General is on, his wife has now been dragged into it, apparently she was working for Bill Clinton or something along those lines.
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Wales-Bales
I'm not sure whose side the Deputy Attorney General is on, his wife has now been dragged into it, apparently she was working for Bill Clinton or something along those lines.
God... imagine the things she could tell the Justice Department if she wasn't bound by client confidentiality?
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Wales-Bales
The Guardian are on the anti-Trump team. If you've been paying attention, then you will have noticed that this is a very large team. It includes the Democrats, some Republicans, the majority of the media, elements of the FBI and DOJ, and members of the Judiciary, etc.
How Trump is still in the game is a remarkable feat in itself, but what we are now witnessing the the realtime exposé of a corrupt state, yet the majority on here are still rooting for the corruptors. It must be fascinating for the anthropologists who study this kind of thing.
Well, I'm not rooting for any corruptor. I'm waiting for some genuine indication of who represents 'truth' in all this. I wonder if we may never know.
But I have the strongest of hunches that Trump is not, will not and does not have what it takes to be the savior / liberator / game-changer. He may be the face (knowingly or not) for whoever might (or might not) be those things - or just as possibly, he is simply just as corrupt, ignorant, narcissistic and clueless as he is depicted. It is alarmingly easy to present that vision ..
He has a dwindling following of like-minded. Listen to them speak. They are not good people - certainly no better than those they accuse.
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Vimto
Well, I'm not rooting for any corruptor. I'm waiting for some genuine indication of who represents 'truth' in all this. I wonder if we may never know.
But I have the strongest of hunches that Trump is not, will not and does not have what it takes to be the savior / liberator / game-changer. He may be the face (knowingly or not) for whoever might (or might not) be those things - or just as possibly, he is simply just as corrupt, ignorant, narcissistic and clueless as he is depicted. It is alarmingly easy to present that vision ..
He has a dwindling following of like-minded. Listen to them speak. They are not good people - certainly no better than those they accuse.
The corruptor is dead, long live the corruptor!
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Wales-Bales
The corruptor is dead, long live the corruptor!
Yeah .. that too :hehe:
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McCabe’s Ties to Russian Crime Figures & His Reported Tampering in Russian FBI Cases, Files
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For years James Comey and Robert Mueller, as FBI directors, knew Andrew McCabe maintained problematic contacts with Russian officials including organized crime figures yet did little to investigate the now-FBI deputy director’s relationships even after other agents caught McCabe tampering in Russian-linked cases, FBI sources said.
https://truepundit.com/comey-mueller...i-cases-files/
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tthew-petersen
Where does it stop?
Is this 'draining the swamp'?
Or something sinister, damaging that may take years to reverse.?
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Vimto
I'm struggling to keep up now, where will it all end :hehe:
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Vimto
The Senator who filleted him, John Kennedy produced a beaut of a quote to finish him off "“Just because you’ve seen My Cousin Vinny doesn’t qualify you to be a federal judge,”.
On your wider point I think that Trump has been really successful in quickly making a range of very-conservative senior judicial appointments. Then again this stuff is swings and roundabouts and whoever is in power (let's call it swampmaster) gets to choose the judiciary with records of similar "political" leanings. In that regard at least Trump is no different to those who preceded him. When it gets to the lower ranks it looks like he has run out of qualified troops though.
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In 10 years time, the Republican tax bill will leave half of Americans worse off and 83% of the benefits will go to the top 1% earners.
Trump, draining that swamp one day at a time.
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lardy
In 10 years time, the Republican tax bill will leave half of Americans worse off and 83% of the benefits will go to the top 1% earners.
Trump, draining that swamp one day at a time.
Doesn't the tax law expire in 10 years time? I'm guessing whoever is in power then will make a new one!
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Wales-Bales
Doesn't the tax law expire in 10 years time? I'm guessing whoever is in power then will make a new one!
Yes, the bit with provisions for 99% expires then. The 1%ers bit doesn't.
Aren't tax bills quite difficult to get through? Wasn't this the biggest one for decades or something? Trump, the alleged billionaire, and his billionaire friends will certainly hope so.
Isn't it a coincidence that the shit would hit the fan for ordinary people once Trump's tenure is up?
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lardy
Yes, the bit with provisions for 99% expires then. The 1%ers bit doesn't.
Aren't tax bills quite difficult to get through? Wasn't this the biggest one for decades or something? Trump, the alleged billionaire, and his billionaire friends will certainly hope so.
Isn't it a coincidence that the shit would hit the fan for ordinary people once Trump's tenure is up?
If the most unpopular president in history can do it, then anybody can, experially if it's a really bad deal. The Democrats will win big at the next election, so I wouldn't worry too much.
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lardy
Yes, the bit with provisions for 99% expires then. The 1%ers bit doesn't.
Aren't tax bills quite difficult to get through? Wasn't this the biggest one for decades or something? Trump, the alleged billionaire, and his billionaire friends will certainly hope so.
Isn't it a coincidence that the shit would hit the fan for ordinary people once Trump's tenure is up?
From Yahoo:
"In past decades, policymakers have reversed major cuts as deficits ballooned and economic windfalls failed to materialize."
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Whether it can be undone in the future is besides the point. Trump rode in on a drain the swamp ticket and he's thrown a few dollars a month savings to the poor people. But it's calculated that he'll save up 11-15m dollars a year and Kushner 5-12m dollars a year with the new bill.
All of this is paid for by increasing the US deficit so there's a long term impact regardless of what happens in future elections.
One senator even said that his big business donors told him not to contact them again if the bill didn't go through. Who's being represented? Drain the swamp indeed...
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More from the draintheswamp files
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier. Mr. Trump directed those comments to friends dining nearby at the exclusive club — including to two friends at a table near the president's who described the remark to CBS News — as he began his final days of his first year in office in what has become known as the "Winter White House."
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/tru...hristmas-trip/
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lardy
More from the draintheswamp files
How can FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, the man in charge, along with leakin’ James Comey, of the Phony Hillary Clinton investigation (including her 33,000 illegally deleted emails) be given $700,000 for wife’s campaign by Clinton Puppets during investigation?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 23, 2017
FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe is racing the clock to retire with full benefits. 90 days to go?!!!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 23, 2017
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...y-clinton-bias
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A new low in stupidity from the President?
He's tweeted that New York could do with some global warming as it's going to be cold later.
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lardy
A new low in stupidity from the President?
He's tweeted that New York could do with some global warming as it's going to be cold later.
It would be funny if global warming isn't the thing that we have all been led to believe, so is he saying global warming is more gaming of the system by the other lot?
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Wales-Bales
It would be funny if global warming isn't the thing that we have all been led to believe, so is he saying global warming is more gaming of the system by the other lot?
Could you rephrase this in a way that makes sense?
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lardy
Could you rephrase this in a way that makes sense?
Forget that, news just out saying classified information from Hillary Clinton’s email server was found on the laptop of the disgraced former congressman Anthony Weiner.
So, somebody has been telling big porkies. What next? :sherlock:
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Wales-Bales
Forget that, news just out saying classified information from Hillary Clinton’s email server was found on the laptop of the disgraced former congressman Anthony Weiner.
So, somebody has been telling big porkies. What next? :sherlock:
Quick... Distraction...
Oh, um, Hillary's emails!
The US president having no clue about climate change and spreading bollocks that anyone over 5 should really recognise as being bollocks is deeply worrying for the future of our planet. Calling him irresponsible for this barely touches the surface.
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lardy
Quick... Distraction...
Oh, um, Hillary's emails!
The US president having no clue about climate change and spreading bollocks that anyone over 5 should really recognise as being bollocks is deeply worrying for the future of our planet. Calling him irresponsible for this barely touches the surface.
A quick distraction? All of this was covered up by the Obama FBI and the DOJ, and Clinton along with numerous other cohorts lied under oath. It's only just starting to get interesting!
Regarding the impact of global warming, you would first have to prove it's existence, but that is a topic for another conversation. Trump was clearly mocking the previous administration who had plans to spend trillions of dollars on it, and like I said maybe Trump knows something that we don't :wink:
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Wales-Bales
A quick distraction? All of this was covered up by the Obama FBI and the DOJ, and Clinton along with numerous other cohorts lied under oath. It's only just starting to get interesting!
Regarding the impact of global warming, you would first have to prove it's existence, but that is a topic for another conversation. Trump was clearly mocking the previous administration who had plans to spend trillions of dollars on it, and like I said maybe Trump knows something that we don't :wink:
No, it's the topic for this conversation as it is very specifically what Trump tweeted about. Hillary's emails is a topic for another conversation.
'Global warming' is real. It's existence is proven. The average temperature of the world is rising. It's a fact. Very few people don't accept that, so you're in a small minority there, yet again.
The causes are debated. Some seem to think it's just a coincidence that temperatures rocketed since the Industrial Revolution.
Trump's tweet is astoundingly ignorant. For a start, he's using an example of extreme weather conditions, a symptom of 'global warming'!
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lardy
No, it's the topic for this conversation as it is very specifically what Trump tweeted about. Hillary's emails is a topic for another conversation.
'Global warming' is real. It's existence is proven. The average temperature of the world is rising. It's a fact. Very few people don't accept that, so you're in a small minority there, yet again.
The causes are debated. Some seem to think it's just a coincidence that temperatures rocketed since the Industrial Revolution.
Trump's tweet is astoundingly ignorant. For a start, he's using an example of extreme weather conditions, a symptom of 'global warming'!
I'm not a Trump fan, but I have seen how he works. First he says something that seems controversial to the uninitiated, and then people like you get their knickers in a twist. Finally, something comes out to show he was right all along. Rinse and repeat.