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Baloo
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lardy
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Very stable genius ... :wink:
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And here's the President looking directly at the sun.
Attachment 2044
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Can anybody confirm that the DNC/Clinton campaign-funded dossier was used to obtain the Trump FISA warrant?
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Donald J. Trump
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Disproven and paid for by Democrats “Dossier used to spy on Trump Campaign. Did FBI use Intel tool to influence the Election?” @foxandfriends Did Dems or Clinton also pay Russians? Where are hidden and smashed DNC servers? Where are Crooked Hillary Emails? What a mess!
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Donald J. Trump
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“House votes on controversial FISA ACT today.” This is the act that may have been used, with the help of the discredited and phony Dossier, to so badly surveil and abuse the Trump Campaign by the previous administration and others?
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cyril evans awaydays
It will be hard not to mention her now if the above is true. Funnily enough, I can't seem to find any mention of it in the press, so is Donald making it up? Or has the FBI & DOJ really admitted that they used the Hillary financed phoney dossier to initiate the FISA surveillance on Trump and his election team?
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Wales-Bales
It will be hard not to mention her now if the above is true. Funnily enough, I can't seem to find any mention of it in the media, so is Donald making it up, or has the FBI & DOJ now admitted that they used the paid for by Hillary phoney dossier to initiate FISA surveillance on Trump and his team?
You are giving yourself little credit. You found it via Sarah Carter/Hannity/Fox same as Trump. The question I have is do you think Trump feeds Fox or the other way around?
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Here is some of the MSN covering the Trump tweet on FISA. If he paid more attention to his advisors instead of Fox and Friends then he might be able to articulate his own policy correctly!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.73930fa3fb34
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cyril evans awaydays
You are giving yourself little credit. You found it via Sarah Carter/Hannity/Fox same as Trump. The question I have is do you think Trump feeds Fox or the other way around?
A Fox exclusive doesn't really count in something that is potentially this big, and it would be impossible for the other news outlets to ignore it if it was coming from the FBI & DOJ themselves.
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James Comey
@Comey 1h
Thoughtful leaders on both sides of the aisle know FISA section 702 is a vital and carefully overseen tool to protect this country. This isn’t about politics. Congress must reauthorize it.
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Fox News quoting their sources within the FBI & DOJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6gfo5EQkxs
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Andrew Weissmann met with AP reporters to discuss Paul Manafort case before joining special counsel
"A senior Justice Department prosecutor in Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel office held a meeting with Associated Press journalists last spring to discuss an investigation into Paul Manafort’s financial record, a day before the wire service published a major expose disclosing alleged money laundering made by the former and now embattled Trump campaign chairman."
https://saraacarter.com/2018/01/11/a...ecial-counsel/
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In an interview he claimed to the Wall Street Journal that he has a good relationship with Kim Jong Un.
Then later on - “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?"
Followed by a statement from the Whitehouse -
"Certain Washington politicians choose to fight for foreign countries, but President Trump will always fight for the American people"
Another day in the crazy bonkers world of the worlds most powerful man.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42657954
Ah, so it's nothing to do with the reception he would get if he came here?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42656433
More "shrewdness" from the genius.
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Expect lots of leaks and wild stories in the coming days, the press are going to be in full damage limitation and misdirection mode.
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the other bob wilson
It’s all part of the game, he’s such a like, genius. It’s all the mainstream media’s fault no doubt, like, FAKE NEWS !
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CardiffIrish2
It’s all part of the game, he’s such a like, genius. It’s all the mainstream media’s fault no doubt, like, FAKE NEWS !
Have you picked a charity yet? :wink:
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Wales-Bales
Have you picked a charity yet? :wink:
Nothing has happened so far as I recall, well nothing apart from what’s on those alt right blogs you like sharing.
Hardly the smoking gun are they?
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CardiffIrish2
Nothing has happened so far as I recall, well nothing apart from what’s on those alt right blogs you like sharing.
Hardly the smoking gun are they?
The wheels are in motion my friend. The biggest political scandal in US history by a very large margin is now rapidly unravelling. BTW, I was only joking about the donation, please don't feel under any obligation. Just watch and learn, it's going to be a very intriguing story.
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Wales-Bales
The wheels are in motion my friend. The biggest political scandal in US history by a very large margin is now rapidly unravelling. BTW, I was only joking about the donation, please don't feel under any obligation. Just watch and learn, it's going to be a very intriguing story.
I could click on any of these 55 pages at random and there's a better than evens chance that you've said pretty much this, wheels in motion, just wait, etc
When are you going to realise you're being had?
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lardy
I could click on any of these 55 pages at random and there's a better than evens chance that you've said pretty much this, wheels in motion, just wait, etc
When are you going to realise you're being had?
We are certainly going to find out who's been had! :biggrin:
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Wales-Bales
Expect lots of leaks and wild stories in the coming days, the press are going to be in full damage limitation and misdirection mode.
Why do there need to be "leaks" and "wild stories" in the next few days when it's the man himself who nearly always provides the story with what he says on Twitter and in the presence of politicians from other parties?
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Wales-Bales
We are certainly going to find out who's been had! :biggrin:
Hey, there's a Trump thread on the main board. You going to share your inside knowledge on that one?
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Chuck Grassley cracks down on Fusion GPS for 'alleged mischaracterization' in testimony about FBI source
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ch...rticle/2645694
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lardy
Hey, there's a Trump thread on the main board. You going to share your inside knowledge on that one?
I don't have any inside knowledge, we are all seeing the same stuff.
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Wales-Bales
Did they use a much smaller font to fit Fusion GPS into the redacted space between "the" and "contractors". Come on Gluey, start using those famed forensic and analytical skills that separate the believable media articles from the "shithole" ones.
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cyril evans awaydays
Did they use a much smaller font to fit Fusion GPS into the redacted space between "the" and "contractors". Come on Gluey, start using those famed forensic and analytical skills that separate the believable media articles from the "shithole" ones.
So that's a no from you :biggrin:
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Wales-Bales
So that's a no from you :biggrin:
The article is a bit rambling but my summary of the story is:
This website has previously majored on raising doubt that the FISA surveillance was done under a warrant;
The DoJ during Obama (continued) to exclude a sensitive section of the DoJ from OIG oversight;
This section and the FBI were undertaking FISA investigations without warrants;
The National Security Agency became aware of this and put a stop to the practise;
This happened during the time that the Trump surveillance took place;
DoJ and FBI were using contractors for this work. as per the document you extracted above;
The Last Refuge had a "tip off" that Fusion GPS were used by the FBI as contractors (as previous highly unlikely to be mentioned in the redacted document used to support the argument).
ergo Steele and Fusion GPS were in cohoots with elements of the DoJ and the FBI to conduct a rogue investigation into Trump bypassing court protocols to carry this out.
Like you say it's a no from me but it would be good to understand what is so compelling about this to make it a yes from you?
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
The article is a bit rambling but my summary of the story is:
This website has previously majored on raising doubt that the FISA surveillance was done under a warrant;
The DoJ during Obama (continued) to exclude a sensitive section of the DoJ from OIG oversight;
This section and the FBI were undertaking FISA investigations without warrants;
The National Security Agency became aware of this and put a stop to the practise;
This happened during the time that the Trump surveillance took place;
DoJ and FBI were using contractors for this work. as per the document you extracted above;
The Last Refuge had a "tip off" that Fusion GPS were used by the FBI as contractors (as previous highly unlikely to be mentioned in the redacted document used to support the argument).
ergo Steele and Fusion GPS were in cohoots with elements of the DoJ and the FBI to conduct a rogue investigation into Trump bypassing court protocols to carry this out.
Like you say it's a no from me but it would be good to understand what is so compelling about this to make it a yes from you?
I never said it's a yes from me, but his observations have certainly been shoehorned into a compelling timeline, for example the wife of Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson, Mary B Jacoby, went to the White House the day after Admiral Rogers shut down the NSA about queries.
There are lots of little events that add up to a bigger picture scenario, but don't forget this is not the official investigation, that is coming in the next couple of days when the preliminary OIG report is released, so it will be interesting to see how close this fella is to the official version of events.
Also of interest is the lack of MSM coverage. I wonder why that might be? There is wall-to-wall coverage of Trump is nuts, and Trump is a racist going on, but no mention this.
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I never said it's a yes from me, but his observations have certainly been shoehorned into a compelling timeline, for example the wife of Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson, Mary B Jacoby, went to the White House the day after Admiral Rogers shut down the NSA about queries.
There are lots of little events that add up to a bigger picture scenario, but don't forget this is not the official investigation, that is coming in the next couple of days when the preliminary OIG report is released, so it will be interesting to see how close this fella is to the official version of events.
Also of interest is the lack of MSM coverage. I wonder why that might be? There is wall-to-wall coverage of Trump is nuts, and Trump is a racist going on, but no mention this.
On the last point it could be that the vast majority of the MSM (right and left) shies away from conspiracy conjecture that has no quoted sources or verifiable evidence I suppose. Perhaps if Trump stopped providing the ammo, now tweeting denying the shithole remark, then the MSM would have to focus on other things.
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Wales-Bales
Also of interest is the lack of MSM coverage. I wonder why that might be? There is wall-to-wall coverage of Trump is nuts, and Trump is a racist going on, but no mention this.
You keep saying that the only reason Trump tweets controversially is to distract the MSM from other areas, so it's his fault. Right?
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cyril evans awaydays
On the last point it could be that the vast majority of the MSM (right and left) shies away from conspiracy conjecture that has no quoted sources or verifiable evidence I suppose. Perhaps if Trump stopped providing the ammo, now tweeting denying the shithole remark, then the MSM would have to focus on other things.
How is it conspiracy conjecture when the OIG and 3 government oversight committees are actively investigating it?
It seems the only news outlet who will give these commitee members any airtime is Fox News. The left-leaning media are shying away from the topic in favour of nutty racist Trump doesn't know the words to the national anthem type of stories.
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lardy
You keep saying that the only reason Trump tweets controversially is to distract the MSM from other areas, so it's his fault. Right?
Who knows what he is up to, but he is playing the media like a fiddle.
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Wales-Bales
Who knows what he is up to, but he is playing the media like a fiddle.
Which part of his media persona is reaching out beyond the approximate third of the voters who will stick with him through thick and thin. Every crass utterance peels potential voters away. How is that playing the media like a fiddle?
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cyril evans awaydays
Which part of his media persona is reaching out beyond the approximate third of the voters who will stick with him through thick and thin. Every crass utterance peels potential voters away. How is that playing the media like a fiddle?
The Democratic Party is about to take a massive hit. The majority of the media have been supporting them 100%, so they will also be tainted. It will be interesting to see how many people stick around with the Dems, but there will be lot of dissolutioned voters after all of this plays out.
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Wales-Bales
The Democratic Party is about to take a massive hit. The majority of the media have been supporting them 100%, so they will also be tainted. It will be interesting to see how many people stick around with the Dems, but there will be lot of dissolutioned voters after all of this plays out.
Tick tock eh? When is this big hit going to happen do you reckon?