40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ng-aid-mission

‘Standing up for Palestinians’: why Greta Thunberg wears a Bohemian FC shirt.

The humanitarian aid flotilla to Gaza is a serious mission with an incongruous detail: Greta Thunberg sporting a jersey of the Dublin football club Bohemians.

The Swedish activist wore the pale blue shirt during an earlier flotilla in June and again this week as vessels prepared to leave Barcelona.

However, the garment does not necessarily signify interest in football or support for the club, currently second in the League of Ireland Premier Division. It is a limited-edition jersey intended to rally funds and solidarity for Gaza.

Bohemians, a north Dublin side better known as Bohs, collaborated with the Dublin rock group Fontaines DC to make the jersey. It mixes Irish and Palestinian motifs and has raised more than €200,000 (£173,000) for the UK-based charity Medical Aid for Palestinians.

A veteran Irish activist, Caoimhe Butterly, gave the shirt to Thunberg on the flotilla that sailed in June. Israeli forces intercepted the vessels before they could deliver aid to the besieged Palestinian territory, where nearly 65,000 people have died and famine is spreading.

Israel used to lie about killing journalists; now it barely bothers to do so. What happened?

The ‘most moral army in the world’ has killed at least 248 journalists in Gaza, seemingly without any shame.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...kill-army-gaza

Terror attack in Jerusalem.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr70ny0l7vgo

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Terror attack in Jerusalem.

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Its almost comedic that Israeli spokesman were on media today asking the world which side we are on ....the terrorists or Israel ......its interchangeable u complete fools

Staggering

Given the wrecking of gaza and the bombs on children I am surprised there havnt been more " terrorist " attacks on Israel

They just bombed Doha in Qatar, where negotiations were taking place.

Enough is enough. Ban them from all international bodies like Russia and beyond Russia's sanctions. Words are not enough, and if governments won't act, they will reap the consequences of inaction.

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They just bombed Doha in Qatar, where negotiations were taking place.

Enough is enough. Ban them from all international bodies like Russia and beyond Russia's sanctions. Words are not enough, and if governments won't act, they will reap the consequences of inaction.

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Yet if in a few weeks a bus gets ambushed and 2 Israelis die ....dreadful though that is ......Netanyahu will be asking the world if we support him or hamas

Rory Stewart has just asked what’s the difference between what Israel has done today and, say, India attacking Sri Lanka because Pakistani leaders were visiting that country. It’s a very fair point.

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Rory Stewart has just asked what’s the difference between what Israel has done today and, say, India attacking Sri Lanka because Pakistani leaders were visiting that country. It’s a very fair point.

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India and Pakistan are on a more even footing, so neither side could get away with doing to each other what Israel is doing to Palestine. Even though Qatar are a bigger fish, it's not going to be enough to overcome the overwhelming lobbying power of Israel, and the US will end up talking down Qatar. The US and UK are trying to give some illusion that they think this has gone too far to ride the tide of popular sentiment, but in reality, they won't ever dare to punish or reprimand Israel.

The Gaza family torn apart by IDF snipers from Chicago and Munich:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ago-and-munich

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India and Pakistan are on a more even footing, so neither side could get away with doing to each other what Israel is doing to Palestine. Even though Qatar are a bigger fish, it's not going to be enough to overcome the overwhelming lobbying power of Israel, and the US will end up talking down Qatar. The US and UK are trying to give some illusion that they think this has gone too far to ride the tide of popular sentiment, but in reality, they won't ever dare to punish or reprimand Israel.

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Israel can do what it wants

The next time they suffer any sort of backlash out will come the violins

BBC News - Anti-Islamic US biker gang members run security at deadly Gaza aid sites
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2zy4l8jgeo

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8641wv0n4go

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org...cles-for-you_1

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rty-conference

Labour closing down debate about Palestine at Conference. What a surprise!

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Intolerable but sadly inevitable under the current regime.

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Think Labour are out of step with the mood of the country on the issue of Gaza/Palestine - shame on them.

The gloves are off and some people are now - at last - saying what was unsayable.

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org...cles-for-you_1

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cewnn8qe7wro

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I have no doubt that recognizing Palestinian statehood at some time is the correct thing to do.

But is now the correct time to do so Bob?

Or is it just a bit of virtue signalling by Starmer so in the long term

So he can save some Labour seats at both National and Local level?

Or should he at least have waited until the remaining hostages have been released on

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I have no doubt that recognizing Palestinian statehood at some time is the correct thing to do.

But is now the correct time to do so Bob?

Or is it just a bit of virtue signalling by Starmer so in the long term

So he can save some Labour seats at both National and Local level?

Or should he at least have waited until the remaining hostages have been released on

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It should have been done many decades ago for both moral and legal reasons.

Starmer’s ‘conditions’ were wrong on every level.

The decision should not be linked to the immediate actions of Hamas, Israel or the Palestinian Authority. It is a decision about recognising a people, a nation, not about opinions on various governments or potential governments.

Starmer has done this now because he has been pressured to do it - by Labour MPs (and a good part of the Cabinet) by the Labour Party members, by the public (there is majority support in opinion polls and has been for about 18 months) by street demonstrations and by the bleeding out of support for him and his government - more to the political left than right.

I don’t believe it was a decision based on principle - I don’t think Starmer has those - although that looks to be the reason for most of the other countries who have recognised Palestine in recent days.

It is symbolic - but symbols often matter.

Of course the Israeli hostages should be released immediately. Of course the Palestinian hostages (those thousands in administrative detention without charge or trial - and many subjected to systematic abuse or torture) should also be released immediately.

The bigger issue is that the recognition of a Palestinian state (now adopted by over 150 countries) is tied to the 2 state solution - with a sovereign Palestine created on the 1967 borders alongside Israel. But Israel through its settlement expansion, military zones, walls, Israeli only roads, apartheid and escalating ethnic cleansing has created ‘facts on the ground’ that make the 2 state solution impossible to create.

The Israeli response (fully backed by the USA) is to step up the ethnic cleansing. Netanyahu and his government boast of this and hide nothing! If Starmer is content with a symbolic announcement very little will change and the genocide will continue.

There is not much support for 2 states any more from Palestinians or Israelis. Most (non Islamist) Palestinians want to see a single democratic state for Jews and Arabs with equal rights. Officially Hamas support 2 states - since 2017 - but unofficially probably not. Most Israelis (a large Zionist majority that has grown in recent years) want a single ethno-religious Jewish state covering all of Israel and Palestine (some also want large parts of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Sinai included).

Will Starmer remain part of the problem or does this mark a serious move (with like minded states) to find a viable route to 2 states? I’m not holding my breathe.

We have been in Sardinia for the last 12 days. I was surprised by the number of Palestinian flags, solidarity posters, graffiti and local demonstrations we saw from big towns to small villages.

The Italian government of Meloni is populist right (sons of Mussolini) but have not slavishly followed the Trump playbook on climate or Gaza despite cozying up to King Don. For the EU to make a serious break with Israel and bring in proper sanctions either Germany or italy will have to make a major policy change. It won’t be Germany. Maybe Italy? The government played down the Palestine demonstrations and strikes today - but the pressure is growing, as it was on Starmer.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ainst-gaza-war

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org...cles-for-you_1

https://www.theguardian.com/football...ame-for-israel

https://www.theguardian.com/football...ccabi-tel-aviv

It will be interesting to see how the US will try to intervene in the event UEFA do the right thing.

Spain leading the way again on confronting Netanyahu’s rogue state.

https://www.thecanary.co/global/worl...dmarsdn8syijsb

Eurovision Song Contest may be following suit (UEFA that is - not Spain)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgq4e4l7dv8o

The USA and Israel want Tony Blair to ‘run’ Gaza!

Interesting opinion piece on the amount of money (mainly US dollars) going into re-writing history and spraying propaganda perfume over the genocide in Gaza - but with the added reveal that there is a thing called Sludge News!

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ting-companies

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It's long overdue

I know it’s not really an appropriate thing to say under the circumstances, but I can’t keep a straight face reading the BBC’s headline. Those two men summed up in a sentence.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd63wl4z6q3t

Oh please

The 20 point plan

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70155nked7o

While giving his backing to the plan in a press conference, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also reinstated his opposition to a Palestinian state - saying "it's not written in the agreement"

A 'peace plan' for Palestine designed without any involvement by Palestinians.

Trump has maybe boxed Netanyahu in a bit - but Netanyahu also bounced Trump into unscripted support for continuing the destruction of Gaza if Hamas do not give full support to the 'plan' - the ultimatum.

The references to a future Palestinian state are vague, cynical and decorative. Two states on the 1967 borders means the dismantling of illegal settlements on the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and the expulsion of 700,000 hard-core Zionists. There is no recognition of that requirement in the 'plan'.

There will be no role in government for any Palestinians - just continued occupation by Israel or Israeli proxies - but with some woolly hints about a reformed Palestinian Authority sometime in the future. The PA needs to be replaced, but the decision on what with has to come from the Palestinian people - not Trump, Netanyahu or Blair!

Netanyahu already unpicking the Trump 'peace plan'.

That Nobel Peace Prize is slipping away again!

Ricky Hale (Council Estate Media):

The Labour Party has passed a motion at its annual conference, stating that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. The motion submitted by UNISON accepts the findings of genocide by the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry. It makes the following demands:

- the government “employ all means reasonably available to prevent the commission of genocide in Gaza”

- full arms embargo

- freeze UK-Israel trade/partnership agreement

- sanctions to enforce international law

- ban UK involvement in “aiding and assisting the genocide”

While the motion is not binding on Starmer, it means the official position of the Labour Party is in direct contradiction to the Labour government.

Starmer is not just in disagreement with the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry, and pretty much every human rights group and genocide scholar, he is in disagreement with his own party.

Farcical isn’t a strong enough word.

Balls in Hamas court then..

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org...cles-for-you_1