I'll keep an eye out for the same outpouring, banners ,marches as it's been going on for years with many more dead.
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Crack on with organizing a march mate, you'll have plenty of experience after the marches you organized during the BLM protests because you were so upset that the people who started those protests weren't protesting about everything else that's bad in the world.
Stanmore Bluebird will join you on it, he's got strong opinions about the perceived lack of empathy for conflicts other than Israel/Palestine as well
You could call it the whatabout whatabout march, good on you both, I hope it goes well
Anti-Semitism is horrific and should be called out. That includes Spurs fans claim to support and defend Jewish culture.
There are other atrocities that also deserve attention. I maintain that the history of the Jewish people in Europe - the horrific way they were treated, the historical involvement of the UK in setting up Israel and UK's close allies in America having such such a relationship with Israel makes this feel closer to home than most.
Israel has enemies which have violent intent and if balance of technology and wealth was reversed this thread could easily be more about the oppression of Israel instead, and it's the oppression most of us care about rather than the flags. These enemies should be acknowledged but intent isn't always more important than actions.
Earlier in this thread we thought that people living in Gaza couldn't leave even if they wanted to. Their facilities are being destroyed, so many innocent people are dying just because of where they're born and in a little while when ceasefire is in place and world's attention turns away again the Israeli government will continue to put Palestine under oppressive conditions and seemingly seek to expand it's land mass at the cost of others. That bit matters much more than any distraction tactic.
On a much lighter note, I remember Alf Garnett discussing the thread subject. He claimed the Arabs lived in peace in Palestine until the Jews relocated there in bulk after 1948 when they arrived with their fancy cars, big houses, beautiful clothes, expensive art etc etc. All this he reckoned made the Israeli opposition jealous!!
I don’t mean to disrespect the topic but thought I’d throw this in.
Without wishing to be disparaging, my opinion is that we have displayed much maturity and fairness on this thread whatsoever our individual views. It has been a thoroughly grown-up discussion.
israel have agreed a ceasefire :thumbup: great news indeed
they just need to unload a few tonnes of missiles from the laden F16's :frown::frown: safer to launch them rather than handle them on runways i hear
BBC news says that both Israel and Hamas are "declaring victory". The words joke and sick come to mind. Another generation being raised to hate more like.
USA has been an Israel "supporter" but there seems to be a demographic shift there, especially for the Democrats. Biden could become less vociferous though I suppose his "every country has a right to defend itself" might be to avoid the USA of being accused of hypocrisy when they bomb somebody. The Republicans might become less supportive of Israel as well as the Bibi/Trump love-in didn't seem to translate into worthwhile extra Jewish votes.
Feedback.
Here's the Snopes analysis of the specific story
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pa...ome-israelies/
There is also a clip of the couple .. you can find a translation online.
The only thing not verified is where the Israeli/US couple, who now occupy the house, are from
We all welcome the ceasefire but that usually is the point when the media stops watching. It shouldn't be.Quote:
Latest updates: May 21
- Israel-Hamas ceasefire came into force in Gaza early on Friday
- Israeli police stormed Al-Aqsa Mosque compound and fired tear gas at Palestinians celebrating the ceasefire after Friday prayers
https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status...24814258688003
when the article says
"how do you feel living in a house built on the wreckage of his house?"
this would indicate the Jewish couple are not living in the house of the Palestinians, but in a newly built house that is on the same site as the Palestinians' former house. Do we know why the Palestinian's house was demolished? The article does not say, and we both know its not a good idea to speculate in matters such as this.
I will speculate for you
The Israeli government and a sizeable proportion of the citizens it governs are arrogant bullies who continue to encroach on Arab land
And one eyed religious fanatics who don't care as they are backed up by the huge Jewish lobby in the states
Thats about it really
I remember the Jewish society in college had a stall during freshers week and they were handing out leaflets about the mistreatment of Russian Jews. Let's just say some of the Palestinian support group were told they were not welcome when the Jewish societies double standards were pointed out .
No I'm not in denial. I'm well aware that Israel encroaches on area C (or it it area A) in the West Bank and they build settlements - this is pretty much common knowledge.
I was asking about this one particular case in point. Just because I wanted background and context on this one example doesn't mean I'm oblivious to the wider issue.