I'd rather be a presidential candidate in the US than Russia, that's for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
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I'd rather be a presidential candidate in the US than Russia, that's for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
or a journalistQuote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Roman Abramovich has seen his fortune fall by some £650m in a single day, with investors fearing the Chelsea owner's investments could be impacted by the situation between Russia and Ukraine.
Turn the tanks around Vlad mate
or anyoneQuote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
In terms of internal democracy, press freedom etc. relating solely to their own country, then I think that's fair. The US/UK have far more complex and subtle mechanisms for maintaining the status quo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
However, the US and UK have far more influence when it comes to silencing political rivals and manipulating other nations for their own gain. I think OurManFlint II was referring to 50 nations where the US and UK have manipulated a country's leadership through sanctions, sabotage, forced regime change etc. I think 50 is a fairly modest estimate.
Exactly, it was a point about not suffering political rivalries. 50 is indeed modest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond Holt
:hehe: not sure what that is for, I do follow the news and i'm not a putin apologist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Have you read anna politkovskaya, amazing what she went through and did, lucky for her it was quick. The Luke Harding's book is also interesting?
Genuine question, why does the USA get involved in trying to ‘clean up’ situations thousands of miles from its shores, very often f*cking things up and making them worse? There are atrocities taking place on their doorstep, 9 shot dead at a funeral at a Mexican border city, Ciudad Juárez, the other day. The city on the USA border has the highest nationwide murder rate, a rate of four a day.
Some shocking things occurring in Central & South America, people fleeing to the US to try and escape the horrors. Yet some Americans complain about illegal immigration, if they channelled a few dollars south of the border in an attempt to clean things up perhaps the rush to the States would slow down. Or is the supply of cocaine important to the nostrils of many Americans, so important that they want to maintain the status quo.
I wonder how many billions of dollars have been spent attempting and failing to clear up problems in places that 90% of Americans couldn’t point out on a map?
DDoS attack: Multiple websites in #Ukraine are unreachable, including the Ministry of Defence, the Armed Forces, Privatbank, and Oschadbank, the Ukrainian cybersecurity center says.
Many ATM's are down and people are crashing the systems by panicking and try to draw all money at once
Isn’t he already announcing he has won? So can now withdraw the forces…..:shrug: just mental stuff. The west lost apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Oligarchs win "the rule of the few". ... saw through.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
one of the early plays is to destabilize the country you want to invadeQuote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
Russia staging false flag operations
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...02#source=push
Since when have you started to believe main stream media? Judging by your efforts in the Trump thread. Is it only when it suits you to?Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
Interested to know what pushed your button enough to ask that question.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Two interesting articles in "The Atlantic" journal:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ocracy/621465/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...b-global-en-GB
Both very interesting - particularly the second one.
Everyone says 'stand up' to Putin, 'be firm', but the harsh reality is that cutting off wealthy Russians from their foreign wealth & assets wouldn't bother Putin 1 bit. Also the pipeline is crucial to Germany and if it is stopped/cut off, Putin has now even bigger markets in China for his gas. And China is the key. There's a 100 years of pent up resentment against the West and China is now in a position to throw it's weight around in a more public, direct manner. Depending on the West's response to any invasion of Ukraine, China will judge when and how to do the same to Taiwan. And because of China, Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine until after the end of the winter olympics, ie Wednesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
Did you study talking shit or did it come natural to you?.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond Holt
Cutting off the ability to spend money abroad is exactly how to hurt the Russians and Putin.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
If China sides with Russia and then looks to expand ( they seem to have issues with borders anyway ) then it would be great to see the world shun them, our dependance of China for stuff is not a good place for the world to be, how we ( the rest of the world ) let ourselves get in this situation baffles meQuote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Blimey - shun China? Russia too, I guess. Latest is that we are trying to strike deals with individual US States as a national US deal looks a very distant prospect. Who on earth are we going to have left to trade with? Thank goodness that we still have large democracies on our doorstep who share our values. Oh, hang on...Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
the 'west' has been sleepwalking for the past 15yrs as China has made Europe and large parts of Asia and Africa - dependent upon China financially and economically. China ignores international patent/copyright laws, and uses the West's technologies against themselves. China really has got us where they want us..Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Where on earth did you get that from? I'd genuinely like to know!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Swiss Peter
Also, when you say 'we', do you mean UK or Switzerland?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/2...02d8cdf887ccf0Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
There you go!